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Wank: The Final Frontier
As those of you who haven't been living under a rock may know, a new Star Trek movie just came out. Over on fanficrants, roq is upset about this. Apparently, TEENAGERS are now WRITING in HER fandom! Quelle suprise!

She has some choice words to say about it.

The highlights of the rant include:

Star Trek is the second oldest fandom in existence...

Because of this, I honestly don't think you can bring a new idea to the fandom. We've seen it all before, really...So that extraspiffy idea you have? We've probably seen it. What this means is that you'll need more than a gimick to keep our attention. You will need to write well. I'm not asking for Tolstoy but basic sentence structure is nice and maybe a plot or at least good characterization.

There's no such thing as an original idea? She must be right, because even that idea sounds familiar...

Two. Do not talk to me about cannon. Do not come over to my happy little ship and whine that K/S is not cannon because Spock and Uhura have a relationship. You may not be familiar with Trekkies. We are not like the Harry Potter fandom.

Guys, I think we've been told. I dunno why we're talking to her about armoury, but w/e. We are not ALLOWEd to write fanfiction within her ship unless we pass STRINGENT STANDARDS.

Also? K/S has never been cannon and probably never will. You know what? We don't care. It's fanfiction. We're changing the world just enough that K/S happens. That's it. If you have a problem with it, don't fucking read it. Go over to S/U and be happy.

The rant goes on in this vein for a while. And then there's the comments.

At first the comments at the community are overwhelmingly supportive and generally non-combative.

But then someone's fannish entitlement alarm goes off, and the shit hits the fan:

kuromitsu starts: Remember, children, this fandom has been around since before you were born. You must follow all of its ancient conventions, must strive to gain the respect of older members, and most importantly you must. not. have. fun with it your own way lest the older fans not like it.

Fandom = serious business, damn it! God forbid you enjoy yourself!

helen_damnation responds: Thank you. I was starting to think I was the only person annoyed by all the "thou shalt not"s.

I haven't seen the movie yet, though I intend to. I don't intend to watch the series. Know why? Because I don't want to. I want to watch the movie. I might write fic for the movie, I don't know yet. That's my right. I'm also very fond of portmanteaus. That's also my right.

Take your own advice and get over it.

It's all downhill from there.

Some choice bits include a "DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!" quote, some accusations that the Star Trek fandom is the angriest and wankiest of all fandoms, some people pointing out how canon is spelt, an indignant Harry Potter fan, and a question on apropriate newbie etiquette.

And it's still going.

This one looks GOOD. I think I've already made Bingo.

ETA: Collateral damage wank on ffrantsrants located here.

Also, links are corrected now. Server is being robust, though, so steady on, folks.

ETA2: roq bites back. Apparently he is a he.

Also:

So, according to the people over at fanfic rants, I'm an arrogant, condescending, hypocritical asshole with a stick up my ass.

Good to know.

Wow, you'd think I wasn't dealing with a rant community or something. Oh, wait.

RANTING COMMUNITIES ARE FOR RANTING! Also, I've forgotten to assume that everyone on the internet has a penis. My inability to remain stuck in the early 90's means that I don't understand a lot of what roq says.

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sisterelwood
2009-05-19 05:17 pm UTC (link)

Real great friend you are- coming on the internet to throw around your friend's suicide as a way to tell us all off. I have a friend who killed herself and another who attempted suicide. It's not a funny thing. However, it revolts me that you come on here and wave around suicide and are using it to try and one-up people on the internet.

So many people fake death on the internet. If you want anyone to take you seriously then you need to provide proof. In my time on FW I've never seen anyone referred to as a rapist or a child molester- unless that's what they really were and if that were the case it wouldn't be here it would be over on unfunnybusiness.

If your friend really did commit suicide, my condolences. I encourage you to seek counseling because those who are left behind after that live with a heavy burden. However, I would hope someone would be more respectful of the dead than to plaster their life all over the internet. I never did that to my friends because I respected them. You want to make a difference? Go volunteer and talk to others who are family and friends of suicide victims. Your time could be far better used there than on screaming at people on the internet.

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	(Anonymous) 2009-05-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
	I second that motion. In the face of a horrible event, slinging bile around will not make the world a better place. Go do something constructive. Unless the troll was assuming taking down f_w was an act for GREAT JUSTICE. However, the way they've gone about it is like coming to the siege armed with a trebuchet made of fondant. It will be eaten. ~^__^~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sisterelwood 2009-05-20 04:44 am UTC (link)
	Unless the troll was assuming taking down f_w was an act for GREAT JUSTICE. In lovecrafty's world that would make perfect sense. Yet another reason to suspect he is our oh so aggrieved anon. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2009-05-19 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	The OP doesn't seem to be responding to posts like this. I guess she has nothing to say in the face of reason and logic. She just wanted to make everyone feel bad - it has nothing to do with her or her friend. hollydb @ livejournal.com (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sisterelwood 2009-05-19 11:09 pm UTC (link)
	That fact in and of itself shows them to be either a troll or just not a very good friend. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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