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digigirl132 ([info]digigirl132) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-06-24 06:14:00


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Entry tags:community: bad_rpers_suck, flouncing, rp, sockpuppets

There's no playercesting here, really.
Sockity_sock makes a horribly vague post to Bad RPers Suck about a sex-based game. From what I can gather, something happened and the players aren't too happy, so they're dropping. Fortunately, some players from that game come along to explain what this is all about, and they happen to disagree with what Sockity_sock has to say.

First off, here's a handy summary of the events that happened. It also has an explanation of playercesting (basically playing two characters and roleplaying with yourself), which will be a word you will hear a lot in this post. The important point to get from here, though, is that a person was caught playercesting (presumably under two names, as people later mention the RPer in question using a fake name later on), which is against the rules, and was asked to drop one of the two characters. Said player then flounced, and was followed by several other people from her characers' canon.

The first bits of disagreement come in this thread, though, as someone politely disagrees with how sockity_sock has worded the post. But that one isn't nearly as fun as this exchange here:

crystaldawn: Oh GOD, some mods somewhere enforced a rule. HOW DARE THEY

sockity_sock: Yeah, because it's TOTALLY fair to enforce a rule that's not actually in the RULES.

FAIL.


crystaldawn: If the person had nothing to hide and wasn't aware of the rule, she wouldn't have created a fake persona to app under.

Also, this has been in place since forever. People routinely ask the mods about it when apping.

And finally, being asked to drop one of the two characters (without any kind of strike, warning, or reprimand) is hardly unfair. No one else is allowed to play characters that close, the girl in question isn't a special snowflake.


Oh, but wait! You can app under a sock account, so it's okay! But actually part of the app asks what characters you already play, so you can't app under multiple socks. But they mischaracterized the relationship between the two characters! Only not really.

Also, here's more explanation of what's going on. And apparently there was massive flouncing to be had. Sadly I can't go and track that down, since the game is locked to players only.

Sockity_sock also flounces from her own post, so the wank was cut short. Oh well, it was entertaining while it lasted.

Also, I did respond in the post (I'm maplepancakes there), but I wasn't involved in the wank itself (talking about lulzy mod tags for the post doesn't count, right?), so it should be okay to post here.

EDIT: My passive-aggressiveness, let me show it to you.

EDIT #2: The player in question responds.

EDIT #3: Friends show up to defend the subject of the wank.



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And if you _really_ must know what playercest is, and you are too lazy to find out...
[info]t_boy
2009-06-24 02:44 pm UTC (link)

Playing with yourself. Having two characters that you control interacting.

Added for those people who (like me), thought playercest had something to do with, uh, sex.

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[info]digigirl132
2009-06-24 03:02 pm UTC (link)
I should probably add that to my post, huh?

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(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-24 03:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 03:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2009-06-24 03:23 pm UTC
Re: And if you _really_ must know what playercest is, and you are too lazy to find out...
[info]dragonfangirl
2009-06-24 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Playing with yourself aka wanking?

Anyway, I know my first assumption was that they were controlling two characters specifically in a sex scene, which would be mildly hilarious*; this way seems a lot more boring.

*Although not really a lot more so than an ordinary writer writing a porn fic.

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Re: And if you _really_ must know what playercest is, and you are too lazy to find out...
[info]rowanberries
2009-06-24 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Heh. We always called that RPsterbation.

Hey, it's honest!

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Re: And if you _really_ must know what playercest is, and you are too lazy to find out... - [info]irised, 2009-06-25 12:37 am UTC

[info]chlorhexidine
2009-06-24 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Added for those people who (like me), thought playercest had something to do with, uh, sex.

Well, given the game in question....

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[info]persona
2009-06-24 03:20 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I can't believe this ended up here.

I thought their post was about the fact that said sex game thought it was a good idea to turn on IP logging for their communities, before I read the rest of your post. That people were really fighting about - well, that - is a little surprising to me. I suppose cast loyalty does tend to develop pretty strongly.

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[info]digigirl132
2009-06-24 03:26 pm UTC (link)
IP logging? Did they really decide to do that?

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(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-24 04:16 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-24 04:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 04:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2009-06-24 04:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]damien, 2009-06-24 07:19 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 07:26 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-24 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 07:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-24 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]enrythe8th, 2009-06-24 07:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-06-24 07:34 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]damien, 2009-06-24 07:53 pm UTC

[info]chlorhexidine
2009-06-24 03:52 pm UTC (link)
I heard about all of this as it was happening from people I knew in the game. I was not at all surprised to see passive aggressive wanking on BRPS. I actually went to check that community for the first time in months looking for it.

From all I've heard, this is just the tip of a wanktanic sinking iceberg.

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[info]dragonsong12
2009-06-24 03:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh hey! I saw that post yesterday! ...it confused me, so I skipped it, thinking it would be completely uninteresting.

Curse my inability to sense incoming wank! Curse yoooou!

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(no subject) - [info]ajatshatru, 2009-06-24 11:21 pm UTC

[info]oceanica
2009-06-24 04:37 pm UTC (link)
I've got my own gripes with the mods there, but OY, that person is off her crazy rocker. I'd look askance at someone who apped under multiple socks at my game, and we don't even have an obvious rule they'd be trying to evade.

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[info]schoenschoen
2009-06-24 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering how long it would take this to get here. Alas, I did step up to the plate on that girl, so I could not report this one.

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[info]pocketfox
2009-06-24 04:59 pm UTC (link)
What the hell is the point/appeal of playercest anyway? Why go through so much effort when you could skip all the hassle by just writing a fanfic? 'Course, when asking those questions, I'm operating under the silly assumption that the point of RP is to interact with people who aren't me. :P

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(no subject) - [info]ellensmithee, 2009-06-24 05:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-24 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarracenia, 2009-06-24 05:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-24 07:41 pm UTC
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[info]damien
2009-06-24 05:02 pm UTC (link)
"sex-based game" = every game played on LJ, ever.

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-24 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]enrythe8th, 2009-06-24 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2009-06-25 02:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]enrythe8th, 2009-06-25 06:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2009-06-25 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wolfsamurai, 2009-06-25 07:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]neuronin, 2009-06-25 11:08 am UTC
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[info]saieboux
2009-06-24 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Oh look:

http://community.livejournal.com/bad_rpers_suck/6896865.html

Post JIC it gets deleted:

I was wrong. I didn't know about the info post, and y'all are right about the significance of that.

I apologize.

Still think the mods acted like assholes could have been more civil about the whole mess, but I understand they're first timers, so maybe they can be forgiven.

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Re: Comment repost due to fail - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 06:51 pm UTC
Re: Comment repost due to fail - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-06-25 01:24 am UTC

[info]enrythe8th
2009-06-24 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering when this would show up here, so that I could find out what the hell it was about. It doesn't make much sense to me now, either. This kind of embarrasses me a little bit, because I am an RPer. Maybe I just haven't been using LJ as a format for long enough.

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(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-24 09:09 pm UTC

[info]luciazephyr
2009-06-24 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Might wanna add the player's response to the post: http://community.livejournal.com/bad_rpers_suck/6896865.html?thread=124777441#t124777441

Full disclosure: I'm a friend of said player and I dropped from the game hours after she did. I don't think it was totally right for her to use the sock and not share both characters were her, but I know and understand her reasons for it. And as bad as what she did, conversations with the mods broke my love of the game completely, so. Grain of salt and all.

Back to your regularly scheduled wank.

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(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-24 10:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-06-25 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-25 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]synergasm, 2009-06-29 03:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luciazephyr, 2009-06-25 01:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-25 02:03 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-25 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luciazephyr, 2009-06-25 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-06-25 02:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luciazephyr, 2009-06-25 02:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-25 04:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luciazephyr, 2009-06-25 04:09 am UTC
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[info]vitalitat
2009-06-24 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Earlier I was on my blackberry and read "playercesting" as "plagercizing" and thought this would be some kind of plagiarism wank.

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(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-06-24 08:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2009-06-24 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vitalitat, 2009-06-24 08:18 pm UTC

[info]eldritch
2009-06-24 08:49 pm UTC (link)
Lying to the mods = always a bad idea.

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(no subject) - [info]freya, 2009-06-26 10:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pekover, 2009-06-26 11:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-27 04:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2009-06-29 03:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2009-06-27 05:50 am UTC

[info]gangstavidel
2009-06-24 08:59 pm UTC (link)
I wondered if this would make it! :')

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[info]satsuki
2009-06-24 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Somehow I had a feeling it would end up on fandomwank.

And this is without the inevitable RPS stuff!

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(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-24 09:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]satsuki, 2009-06-24 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-24 09:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]satsuki, 2009-06-24 09:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]atalantapendrag, 2009-06-25 04:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-25 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]atalantapendrag, 2009-06-25 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-06-25 04:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]atalantapendrag, 2009-06-25 06:24 am UTC

[info]queue
2009-06-24 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I have no idea why wankers seem to think fighting for the last word won't cause more wank.

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[info]underwaterowl
2009-06-24 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Some day, somewhere on the internet, there will be an RPG with wank. When it happens we should have the thing studied for science, then stuffed and mounted for posterity.

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(no subject) - [info]faeryfroggy, 2009-06-25 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]underwaterowl, 2009-06-25 07:04 am UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2009-06-25 01:53 am UTC (link)
Oh God, one of my friends there is part of the MGS cast, and she got dragged into the drama via RL text message when somebody informed her she was losing the majority of her castmates. Let me tell you, there's nothing like fandom wank when it gets dropped onto your lap RL while you're both on vacation. :D

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(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2009-06-25 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2009-06-25 05:51 pm UTC

[info]argylespy
2009-06-25 07:27 am UTC (link)
I've always preferred the term the folks in my RP circles use: Munsterbation. It's so much more fun and easily misread.

Other than that I have nothing to add to this that's not My Thoughts on Why It's Stupid for Games to Have a NO MUNSTERBATION EVAR Rule.

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(no subject) - [info]tomato_ja_nai, 2009-06-25 08:16 pm UTC

[info]blue_penguin
2009-06-27 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Oh, RP, you really bring the wank like nothing else.

Also, is it just me or is pained_genius really tl;dr? I mean, there's a whole lot of tl;dr flying around here, but she seems especially consistent about it. One way or another, my eyes are starting to glaze over here though that could just be jet lag.

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