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In Failtown, they pay you by the word "Every single commenter here seems to me to be committing a logical fallacy of tremendous dimension, one so big it distorts entire worldviews: Reactions range from serious responses to general confusion to "wtf, drama llama?" But tortured produce comparisons are not enough for Di Filippo, who decides that his argument would be better served by the inclusion of... Math homework! "Now, if you got the annual LOCUS survey of books published and pointed out to me that there were N number of anthologies published in 2008 featuring Y number of stories, and that only X percent of these stories were written by folks who were not WASP males, and then you argued that X percent was way too low, I would consider you had the beginnings of a rational argument and gripe." Accusations of JEALOUS! "But I have to say that when ANY WRITER (not just female writers or writers of color) complains about being excluded from a venue and cites issues of platonic principle and idealism, I always first posit underlying jealousy and a desire for status underneath all the lofty hypothetical talk." ...Seinfeld? "The book in question was assembled by a combo of 1) and 2). Obviously, Mike Ashley recalled only stories by men and invited stories only from males. (Or possibly, invited women who did not respond or qualify.) This resulted in a men-only book. Is this sexism, or is it a function of the phenomenon illustrated in the SEINFELD episode of the big-breasted waitresses? Elaine was incensed that a certain diner featured only big-breasted waitresses--until she discovered that all the women were the owner's daughters. In other words, what seemed to be sexism was "family bias." Mike relied on his "family connections," to the dead or living. And that family included no women. Limited family maybe, but sexism? Your call." But for those who haven't yet drowned in the sea of abortive analogies, Di Filippo ramps it up to 11: "Come, come, now, Tempest! Are not potatoes and trees a beautiful, vital part of Gaia? Just as Walt Whitman (a male, but forgivable since gay) wanted to be reincarnated as humble grass, so too do I myself dream someday of being a tree or potato--if I am not one already. Tempest: "... I fail to understand how being gay makes Walt Whitman "forgiveable". I guess you're implying that someone around here has said that men are bad? But I guess you think those imaginary people would think gay men are okay because... they like other men? I... really, I'm trying to see the logic here and missing it. Explain, please." Lori S.: "Paul, your argument about personal stakes might be more effective (and sound bushels less defensive to boot) if *your* name wasn't in the TOC." Luke Jackson: (in defense of the author) "Congratulations on speaking some against-the-grain sense in the midst of a mindless stampede. I know it can be hard speaking up against the lemmings." Mike Ashley, in his capacity as editor, tries to address the conflict, but sadly manages to tack on his opinion that "women are every bit as capable of writing mindblowing sf as men are, but with women the stories concentrate far more on people, life, society and not the hard-scientific concepts I was looking for". Back on SF Signal, Di Filippo grows weary of answering comments, and urges people to engage him over email instead for even more tl;dr punishment. Rosefox takes him up on his offer, resulting in a super-special moment for everyone involved: "You will never get any private or public repentance from me. At least not until someone on the "other side" offers the same, and does it first, considering that their moronic arguments preceded my moronic arguments." ETA: (thanks, |
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