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The Mad Bishounen ([info]jkefka) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-08-11 11:21:00


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Entry tags:person: rob liefeld

Someone is a dick to Rob Liefeld, fapping ensues
I picked this one up off of twitter, but for once it wasn't [info]cleolinda's. It was RK Milholland's

So, Rob Liefeld. Not the most likeable guy in the world, for sure. Old, familiar face around here, definitely. For once, he's not the wanker here. In fact, his only role in the wank is to be present.

Some enterprising comic fan at WizardWorld decided to present him with a self-signed copy of "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" and posted the adventure online. Basically he acted like an asshole to Liefeld and felt very self-righteous about doing so. Whether you think the fan is an entitled twat or that Liefeld deserved it (or both, both is also acceptable), the fun really starts in the comments.

The gentleman in question has his share of supporters, certainly, but there's also dissent. Quite a bit of dissent, really. The supporters aren't always particularly clever, either.

Really, as with all good wanks, there is no right side. A man was a dick to another man who is also a dick, and it got put on the internet. Needless to say, once a critical mass of dicks has been reached, fapping ensues. Enjoy, kids.

Edited for egregious typos.

ETA: Um, this is awkward. The site has unexpectedly gone down and I don't have caps because I'm at work. So...yeah. Hopefully it'll come back once the rush from twitter dies down? OH RIGHT GOOGLE CACHE. Thanks tetradecimal

ETA 2: Additional coverage courtesy of [info]mister_terrific and [info]sunhawk, plus Liefeld most certainly NOT being a dick from [info]mechanicaljewel

ETA 3: An apology of sorts, discovered by a mouse on my journal.

ETA The Next One: For fuck's sake. Peter David adds his two cents. From [info]duraniedrama




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[info]stella_polaris
2009-08-11 07:00 pm UTC (link)
Perfect, the site seems to be down.

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[info]phosfate
2009-08-11 07:39 pm UTC (link)
Whether you think the fan is an entitled twat or that Liefeld deserved it (or both, both is also acceptable)

Thank God for that. It was a decent plan, but the key to a cutting prank is not to overdo. You don't demand an apology. You don't make it about your Internet glory or his public humiliation. You hand him the book, nicely wrapped, you make the inscription short ("Best of luck in your future endeavors"), and you leave before he opens it. Maybe you buy several copies and have different people drop them off at intervals. Maybe you give him some Hamm or Hogarth. Leave one at the front desk with his messages. Perhaps, over time, it becomes a meme.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2009-08-11 07:45 pm UTC (link)
Oddly, I'm reminded of one of my friends jokingly offering to get me signed copies of the Sunwell Trilogy at BlizzCon. Oh, the look I gave him.

lol, fanboys.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2009-08-11 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Well, I've heard that Rob Liefeld is actually kind of a nice guy in person, so probably the guy is the more wanktastic of the pair -- but I can't find it in myself to be sorry for Rob, either.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-08-11 07:57 pm UTC

[info]daimeryan_rei
2009-08-11 07:54 pm UTC (link)
I don't really understand how one goes around to 'demand an apology' if someone (be it comic books, TV shows, movies, music) doesn't like it. Is this some kind of entitlement issue that has increased lately or is it totally acceptable? Because I sure would like my ten euros back for Terminator Salvation, but you don't see me whining and moaning and demanding that James Cameron should've directed it. Or something. That said, I'm glad I jumped ship with comics just after Age of Apocalypse (not that comics are much available in the Netherlands).

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[info]sunhawk
2009-08-11 08:04 pm UTC (link)
Oh I totally know the kind of guy this guy is, he's the same guy who stands in front of my table in the AA for forty minutes, going on about some show that I've already said I've never seen a single episode of, blocking the way for anyone else to come and look at my art, and then he FINALLY leaves without buying a single thing.

The Don't Be A Dick rule should be universal law.

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[info]moonjaguar
2009-08-11 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Needless to say, once a critical mass of dicks has been reached

Like multiple "say it with penis" bouquets?

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[info]ari_o
2009-08-11 09:41 pm UTC (link)
I thought Yellow Hat Dude was going to have a coronary before he could complete his mission... Good lord.

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(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2009-08-13 05:12 am UTC

[info]mister_terrific
2009-08-11 10:01 pm UTC (link)
http://www.bleedingcool.com has a summary with quotes.

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(no subject) - [info]sunhawk, 2009-08-11 10:09 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2009-08-11 10:15 pm UTC (link)
You purport to being a comic fan, indeed a fan of Captain America, a character who stands for decency, honesty and doing the right thing, yet you act like a total cunt, by belittling a man who is a recognised professional in the field.

'Cause REAL fans should always behave IRL just like their favorite characters!

In which case, I apologize in advance for the massive blood loss, genocide, explosions, and random bits of sarcasm that my years as an X-men fan is going to cause. *angsts*

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(no subject) - [info]mael, 2009-08-11 10:49 pm UTC
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GIP - [info]seca, 2009-08-11 11:19 pm UTC
Re: GIP - [info]salamandersam, 2009-08-11 11:33 pm UTC
Re: GIP - [info]melloniel, 2009-08-12 08:48 am UTC
Re: GIP - [info]aliaras, 2009-08-12 09:36 am UTC
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[info]mechanicaljewel
2009-08-11 10:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but as much as it pains me to admit it, Liefeld wins the "Not A Dick (This Time)" award.

"Also, Liefeld gave the copy of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way to Marat Mychaels, whose copy was lost in a house fire."

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[info]argylespy
2009-08-11 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Ahahahahaha

-We were joking about this on the car ride over, what to say if Liefeld were to magically show up.

-I waited for a bit, I wanted him to forget about me, I wanted him to think he was in the clear and have him let his guard down.

-On the blank front page, I wrote:

"Rob,

I know you aren’t willing to apologize right now. This manual will help you in you future endeavors. Please study it carefully, and consult it before rebooting another comic title. If you still wish to apologize for “Heroes Reborn,” you can do so by emailing me at YellowHatGuy@gmail.com.

Let’s make things right."

Then, I slipped my business card in between the pages, to make sure that Liefeld knew my name, website, email address, and cell phone number. Then I put his gift in a nice bag…

-I started sweating pretty bad, and started to hyperventilate.

-"No, I have to do this. I’ve waited thirteen years for this,”

-“I don’t care,” I sad. “I don’t care what happens [ ... ]"

One of these things is not like the other!

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(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-08-11 10:57 pm UTC
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Incoming Icon Disapproval - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2009-08-11 11:11 pm UTC
Re: Incoming Icon Disapproval - [info]phosfate, 2009-08-11 11:24 pm UTC
Re: Incoming Icon Disapproval - tetradecimal, 2009-08-12 05:53 am UTC
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Re: Incoming Icon Disapproval - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2009-08-12 10:33 am UTC
Re: Incoming Icon Disapproval - [info]evilsqueakers, 2009-08-12 04:02 pm UTC
Really late to the pary - [info]pseudo_dense, 2009-08-16 06:20 pm UTC
Doh, guess i can't imbed - [info]pseudo_dense, 2009-08-16 06:22 pm UTC
Re: Doh, guess i can't imbed - [info]pseudo_dense, 2009-08-16 06:23 pm UTC

[info]tachikoma01
2009-08-11 10:58 pm UTC (link)
I have no love for Mr. Liefeld or his art, just a disclaimer. [Holy crud what did you do to that poor woman's internal organs?! and all that.]

But I think yellow-hat-dude smacks way too much of 'This guy is a socially acceptable target to mock. I will mock him so I get much geek cred. Other geeks will applaud my awesomeness.' If there weren't outside verification that it actually happened, I'd compare him to those people who post 'And then I told the noisy kid to STFU and everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped' stories. Like... not sure if what I'm thinking is what is coming out in what I am typing, but it almost seems like he specifically targeted Liefield BECAUSE it's 'kewl' to mock him. I doubt he'd have had the balls to do anything to an artist who isn't already widely fandom disregarded.

Or perhaps he's like the kid on the playground who, after seeing a bunch of big kids making fun of a smaller kid with glasses, runs up to the kid after the bigger kids have left and yells "Ha-ha, you've got four eyes!" and then beam with expectation that the bigger kids are now going to realize how cool he is because he can mock the same people they do.


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(no subject) - [info]ihateyouall, 2009-08-12 01:01 am UTC
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[info]misachan
2009-08-11 11:39 pm UTC (link)
Has anyone seen the video version of "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way"? It's great. John Buscema is so serious about teaching the art style, meanwhile Stan Lee keeps popping in and out of screen like a goblin on meth because he's so excited about things being THE MARVEL WAY.

By the end it's clear that Buscema is one THE MARVEL WAY from stabbing Stan to death with his pencil, and Stan is just completely oblivious. Pure gold.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-08-12 12:15 am UTC
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[info]gunshou
2009-08-11 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Today is like Liefeld Day! *dances on tiptoes with legs in anatomically impossible positions*

Also, I feel like I need a "critical mass of dicks" icon, but have no desire to actually have dicks on an icon.

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(no subject) - [info]kelmendi, 2009-08-12 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-08-12 06:51 pm UTC
The tears didn't begin until this line. - [info]ruslan, 2009-08-12 02:39 am UTC
Re: The tears didn't begin until this line. - [info]ari_o, 2009-08-13 12:23 am UTC
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[info]kijikun
2009-08-12 12:13 am UTC (link)
While I like to poke fun at Liefeld online, I cannot hate him after he was so nice to my friend that was dressed up as girl!Deadpool and didn't get freaked out when she pretty much was in character as Deadpool complete with calling him daddy. Anyone that can be cool to a cosplayer whose staying IC is okay in my books.

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[info]mister_terrific
2009-08-12 12:20 am UTC (link)
I would like to say I can't believe that anyone would be such an entitled asshole and be a major dick at a convention...

...but sadly, I can believe it.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2009-08-12 04:24 pm UTC

[info]duraniedrama
2009-08-12 01:41 am UTC (link)
PAD weighs in.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-08-12 01:48 am UTC
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[info]sunhawk
2009-08-12 01:51 am UTC (link)
That is an asshole apology to end all asshole apologies. Holy crap.

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(no subject) - [info]duraniedrama, 2009-08-12 02:01 am UTC
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[info]demonbean
2009-08-12 02:39 am UTC (link)
I’ve been trying to make sense of it all, and it boils down to that I’m typically a stoic person in my personal life, I don’t deal with or process emotion the same way that other people do.

Aha! He's special! Well, that settles that, then.

...

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[info]rotten_fish
2009-08-12 04:51 am UTC (link)
The Man with the Yellow Hat did not raise his boy properly.

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mockygogo
2009-08-12 04:54 am UTC (link)
I think from now on I'm going to go to conventions with a hardcover copy of "How To Win Friends and Influence People" in a comic book bag. That way if I ever ran into the assbag, I could stalk him until his guard was down and then smack him upside the head with it.

What? Just sayin.


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(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2009-08-12 05:09 am UTC
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[info]ninwhore
2009-08-12 12:42 pm UTC (link)
Was I the only one that got contact embarrassment from that? As in 'Oh god. Why would you seriously do that?"

I mean, I'm not exactly a fan of Liefeld's art, but I wouldn't be such a dick to him. Not even in the somewhat anonymity of the internet. He doesn't seem like a bad person, ignoring critique aside.

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(no subject) - [info]stella_polaris, 2009-08-12 01:36 pm UTC

[info]nightfalltwen
2009-08-12 02:01 pm UTC (link)
http://comics.com/pearls_before_swine/2009-08-12/

This has nothing to do with anything other than I thought it was funny. And applied to wank in a way.

:D

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(no subject) - [info]deadwood, 2009-08-12 07:12 pm UTC
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[info]solle
2009-08-12 02:38 pm UTC (link)
Ahahahaha. I probably would have done the same thing if I'd had the chance.

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(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-08-12 04:40 pm UTC
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