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The Mad Bishounen ([info]jkefka) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-09-30 10:08:00


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Entry tags:community: fanficrants, fandom: buffy the vampire slayer, fanfic

I will decide the value of your fic based on a single word!
Alright people, there's been a long streak of unfunny and fail around here and it's getting bothersome. We need to get back to basics with a short & sweet wank from an old, reliable source.

Thank heaven for FFR.

Picked this up via a mouse in the currently be-spamalated [info]wank_report, incidentally.

Anyways, the short version is that [info]guardian_erin posts a question about the word "childe" in reference to the Buffy fandom. To quote:
"What in the hell is so automatically horrible about dropping the word 'Childe' in a fic?"

By and large, people are pretty civil about it, noting that it's more of an Anne Rice/White Wolf term than a Buffy term. A few reasonable souls note that it's generally associated with badfic and therefore not looked upon kindly.

And then there's [info]liz_marcs, who says, in no uncertain terms, that [info]guardian_erin is "'one of those writers.' I'll be sure to avoid anything you write". Cue the snippyness, raging, bitching, teal deer, passive-aggressive smilies and condescending. There is also much fappery on the topic of "canon." Good wank times are had by all.

ETA: Oh, I forgot to mention, use of the words "cunty" and "cuntishness". The English language is such a wonderfully flexible thing.



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[info]oulangi
2009-09-30 05:50 pm UTC (link)
By Circe's sagged teats, won't someone think of the Childe?

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[info]jkefka
2009-09-30 05:57 pm UTC (link)
You icon and comment have officially wrecked my brain.

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[info]nursewretched
2009-09-30 06:01 pm UTC (link)
You owe me a new keyboard.

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[info]phosfate
2009-09-30 08:22 pm UTC (link)
The Cuntish Childe did awrite
A fanfic brave and goode
And then a grande debate ensued
"Doth suck!" "'tis misunderstoode!"

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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2009-09-30 08:35 pm UTC
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I tried - [info]chofi, 2009-10-09 06:28 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]socker, 2009-10-02 12:27 am UTC
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[info]feenix
2009-09-30 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Wait. Is there a way I can turn this into srs bzns and write a comment which divulges my thoughts on yaoi at length and how I think Party A/Party B in the wank is a horrible oppressor who needs to be stopped at all costs?

No?

Well, fuck this post, I'm not bothering!

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-09-30 08:35 pm UTC
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[info]faultypremise
2009-09-30 06:33 pm UTC (link)
/facepalm

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[info]the__ivorytower
2009-09-30 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Aww, I saw the last couple of F_W bait posts, and totally missed this one. I'm sad now.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-10-01 01:55 am UTC
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[info]aliaras
2009-09-30 07:07 pm UTC (link)
[info]liz_marcs seems like a familiar name from something a long time ago...anyone remember her wanking before?

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(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2009-09-30 07:15 pm UTC
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[info]grapefruitzzz
2009-09-30 07:08 pm UTC (link)
This is what I feel about 'magicks'.

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(no subject) - [info]rodo, 2009-09-30 11:38 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-10-01 04:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nightfalltwen, 2009-10-03 07:18 pm UTC

[info]shinysandals
2009-09-30 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that's a lot of vitriol over an unnecessary silent letter. I wish I had that much free time.

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-09-30 07:32 pm UTC
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[info]ashenmote
2009-09-30 07:50 pm UTC (link)
You know, another great backbutton-word in a Buffy fic is 'Snape'.

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(no subject) - [info]herongale, 2009-10-01 12:13 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]moongazingfae, 2009-10-01 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]socker, 2009-10-02 12:29 am UTC

[info]sandyclaws68
2009-09-30 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Someone made use of the word "douchetastic". My life is complete. :)

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[info]sukeban
2009-09-30 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Childe? Do they also write about vampyres doing magick?

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(no subject) - [info]ladyvyola, 2009-09-30 09:24 pm UTC
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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-09-30 08:26 pm UTC (link)
I'm just happy with how many of us pulled out our Gunn icons.

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[info]mcity
2009-09-30 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Haven't I heard the name liz_marcs before?

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Nevermind. nt - [info]mcity, 2009-09-30 08:36 pm UTC

[info]eldritch
2009-09-30 08:38 pm UTC (link)
When I hear "childe" in reference to Buffyfic, it just makes me want to try to categorize the vampires ala VtM. Damn my early teenage obsession with White Wolf!

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[info]ari_o
2009-09-30 10:16 pm UTC (link)
CHILDE/SIRE seriously? I'll be over here burning my complete works of Byron.

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[info]beejium
2009-09-30 11:01 pm UTC (link)
It took me so long to figure out that "childe" was supposed to be "child" spelled with an e. I was pronouncing it "chill-deh" and assumed it was some sort of pepper.

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-09-30 11:20 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tez, 2009-10-01 12:06 am UTC
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[info]katemonkey
2009-09-30 11:57 pm UTC (link)
But the childe goes to the olde shoppe to buye the presente for the sire!

(Also, dude, this wank has been going on in one way or another for ten freakin' years. Go Buffy, you are filled with clichés!)

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-09-30 11:59 pm UTC
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[info]frequentmouse
2009-10-01 12:06 am UTC (link)
Oh, dear.

The thing is, there's a bunch of stuff shown in canon (Angel's inability to resist Darla, Drusilla's utterly creepy attatchment to her Daddy, Spike's whole Dru fixation) (Not to mention Penn. Can we avoid thinking about Penn? Please?) where it would be nice if Joss had given a single explicit term for the relationship.

However if I was going to get all snarky about one bit of over-developed and crappy fanon, it would be the bond between Vampire and {renfrew} especially in epic Spander porn. There were very boring wank wars about who invented that piece of fanon; me, I'd be running from the blame...

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-10-01 11:56 pm UTC

[info]researchgrrrl
2009-10-01 02:40 am UTC (link)
Long and long ago, I used to be in the BtVS fandom. Apparently, I was there long ago enough that I totally missed what the fappage is about "childe" -- why on earth would that be used in BtVS? Or why on earth would it not be used? Too twee for some, extra-gothy for others? No access to LJ atm (JF is apparently too small for work to have added it yet to the Social Networking filter), so can anyone hook me up with a quickie explanation? All other quickies must wait until I'm home. :)

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-10-01 03:15 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-10-01 05:19 am UTC

[info]vzg
2009-10-01 03:54 am UTC (link)
...And I just learned a whole bunch of weird shit about Buffy! I'm kind of amazed I never stumbled across "childe," 'cause I certainly read me some badfic in BtVS — but, then, I guess it'd come up more if I actually read Angel/Spike.

I was also not aware that people weigh the line "you are my sire" over an entire episode about Drusilla turning Spike, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised — I'm sure there are still people who stick their fingers in their ears and go "la la la I can't hear you" whenever anyone mentions anything about Willow liking girls, too. Which makes me think of that awful, awful BtVS/Smallville fic I once read.

And the bit about Joss not being George Lucas, so he's not allowed to retcon? That made me laugh! But I guess slightly changing the meaning of a throwaway line and turning guns into walkie talkies is about the same thing. And George Lucas shouldn't have been allowed to retcon, damn it.

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(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-10-01 04:04 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]reeve, 2009-10-01 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-10-01 09:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-10-01 06:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2009-10-01 12:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]salustra, 2009-10-01 09:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-10-01 08:29 pm UTC
Since this *wank* is now just a Buffy-Celebration... - [info]bacon_lover, 2009-10-01 10:54 pm UTC
Re: Since this *wank* is now just a Buffy-Celebration... - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-10-01 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miraba, 2009-10-02 01:04 am UTC
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[info]salustra
2009-10-01 09:49 am UTC (link)
Ah, I saw this one not long after it was posted, and I dropped it like a hot potato after seeing the wankiness. Cos I knew if I read too much more I'd join in (my fandom, and I'm a Spike/Angel shipper that furthermore believe the ret-con is crap and I use Childe like crazy cos I don't know a better word as a counterpart to Sire.) Yeah, sorry, not bringing the funny, but at least I managed to avoid being a wanker.

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(no subject) - [info]castellated, 2009-10-08 05:07 am UTC

[info]socker
2009-10-02 12:32 am UTC (link)
You know, it's ironic that a show full with immortal beings produces wank that lives forever, in some form or another.

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(no subject) - [info]mercutia, 2009-10-03 11:48 pm UTC
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[info]sevendeadlyfun
2009-10-02 01:16 am UTC (link)
*sniff* I love my almost-dead, still-wanky fandom. If we're still capable of being this irate over a simple word? There's hope for us yet.

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