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bannination, fandom: bleach, person: yulieana

Two ships enter! One ship leaves!
Courtesy of a kind mousey on wank_report, and also of my flist, we have Bleach wank!

Over on BleachAsylum, Bleach fandom's own personal Thunderdome, the mods make a new rule about linking to things in signatures. Apparently, the forum users have a long history of linking to inflammatory ship essays in their sigs to snipe at the other side (the most famous one being called "The Lust Arc = IchiHime FAIL", so you can probably see where this is heading), so the mods finally stepped up and made this rule:

19. No links in signatures to sites that bash forum members/mods/Bleach pairings or anything that BA members could more than likely find offensive (especially in case of shipping, this includes shipping essays etc). Yes you may be mature enough not to click and read such sites but others aren't and too much of a big issue is being made out of this. To save anyone anymore problems we are just banning this from BA.

Seems easy enough to follow, right? So naturally, quite a few people have run afoul of this new rule!

The first cries of oppression go up on bleachness, _debbiechan_'s personal fanwork community (for reference, it's listed as being geared towards IshiHime, but most posts revolve around IchiRuki and occasionally UlquiHime). Highlights include calling the internet lawyers, 'did you know I'm a BNF?', rallying the troops, and this comment about Freud and the 'wretched special snowflakes' in the IchiHime fandom. It also seems that debbiechan is not happy that people are putting her comm in the same category as FLOL, the locked IchiHime forum (among other things).

Next up, we have someone named yulieana, who had a bit of a run-in with the BA mods over this unfair new rule herself. Herein, we have a massive entitlement complex, Godwin's Law, and more cries of censorship and oppression. But really, her entire LJ is a barrel of laughs, since it seems like all she ever posts about is how much she really, really hates the IchiHime pairing. EDIT: OH NOES, bahleeted! Anyone catch a screencap? Apparently, the people who were posting their sympathy in the entry are now hanging her out to dry on BA, too. Edit^2: Oh, never mind - she's right back to crying about censorship again. I'm screencapping this one, since we lost the beauty of the first one to the ether. :( Edit^3: Thank you, galateus! The beautiful original is gloriously saved for posterity! Edit^4: And Yulie is now banned from BA! But that's okay, because F_W is stalking her and she's famous now! :D

And finally, there's a very wordy entry here about the evils of censorship in regards to message board signatures.

If there's more to this, I haven't seen it yet, but more is guaranteed to trickle in, since it seems like half the fandom is in an uproar over it.

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galateus
2009-12-02 12:12 am UTC (link)

Edit^2: Oh, never mind - she's right back to crying about censorship again. I'm screencapping this one, since we lost the beauty of the first one to the ether. :(

The ether gives back! I nabbed a screencap and a copy/paste from Google's cache.

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	schoenschoen 2009-12-02 12:16 am UTC (link)
	THANK YOU! ♥! I'm just sad you didn't catch Debbie's buttpats over it before she turned back around and threw her under the bus on BA. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	galateus 2009-12-02 12:49 am UTC (link)
	A bus-throwing-under? This I have to see. Did I miss the fallout somehow in one of the links above? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	schoenschoen 2009-12-02 12:54 am UTC (link)
	It apparently happened on BA, but I don't know crap about their forums, so I have no idea where it is. But apparently they're now hanging her out to dry over there, since she got put up on F_W (which is also the reason she probably deleted that post of hers, if you ask me). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	galateus 2009-12-02 02:08 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I can't find it either. Maybe the thread got deleted or it's in PMs. Where'd you hear about it? Oh, whoever made the cap of debbiechan's self-deleted post left out her SUPER-SPECIAL sig with her very own big giant Red Text of Rage link to her bleachness community. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

schoenschoen
2009-12-02 02:13 am UTC (link)

Don't know if it got deleted, but it was in a thread calling Yulie out for pasting chat logs, and this is the text of it:

"Posting PMs isn't kosher. It's really not something ethical people do, but this is the internet and everyone does it. When I was an administrator of a board for DBZ, a chick I banned started her own forum and posted all my PMs to her with the intent of making me look stupid. You know I don't even remember the details--all I know is that it was a lot of to-do about nothing.

In the end, I think that this is what this is too. People getting too worked up about so little. To clarify, I'm a BIG fan of open discourse. I'd rather let something stand than edit it if I have to mod something; I'd rather let people work their issues out in the open than prohibit discussion of anything. Just from my experience that works best. I agree with Yulie's original idea that banning signature links is wrong.

But all this talk about slapping mods and shit--this is really too much. If you disagree with someone why does that mean there has to be name-calling, references to Hitler and threats of violence? I mean, isn't that what we were all saying was supposed to be the case with these supposedly provoking essays everyone was supposed to have the freedom to click on? That people could just disagree without all HELL and Hitler breaking loose?

One thing I've found on bleachness is that it helps to set an example for your commenters. If you're polite, people are polite. This blog sets a really confrontational example so you shouldn't be surprised if people come here and confront you.

I said I felt bad for Space when I read this entry. I feel worse now after reading some of the comments. He runs a board, pays for the server out of his own pocket, deals with a crazy fandom out of his own time even though he's not in the fandom anymore and he gets trashed for decisions the BA mods make as a whole. It's one thing to disagree, it's quite another thing to disagree with nastiness and slaps to the face--and it doesn't advance your own case, y'know?"

You may not have seen it, but she was in Yulie's original entry, patting her on the back for it.

I'm still trying to figure out where they got 'special snowflakes' from. It's like they took the snarkiest thing they could think of and threw it willy-nilly at people, hoping it would stick. You can also see it in one of the links in the main post, and in Guildenstern's little wankfit a couple threads up.

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	adevyish 2009-12-02 11:19 am UTC (link)
	I think I have whiplash. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

schoenschoen
2009-12-02 04:13 pm UTC (link)

Moar info as it trickles in:

Apparently, after letting the 'success' of her LJ post go to her head, Yulie took her show on the road to BA, where she posted a topic about how OMG MEEN AND OPPRESSUVE the mods were. That's where the above comment came from. The topic was then deleted, so I fear it may be gone forever.

She's now banned, though, so I expect more glorious LJ entries on her martyrdom later today.

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	galateus 2009-12-02 06:44 pm UTC (link)
	Do you have the title of her thread? I might be able to find at least the text of her first post in their RSS feed (Google Reader keeps a copy of even deleted stuff, but only checks the feeds once an hour). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	schoenschoen 2009-12-02 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	I'll check around and see if anyone remembers it! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	schoenschoen 2009-12-02 04:33 am UTC (link)
	And here's the complete original post, with debbiechan's original comment, agreeing with Yulie. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	galateus 2009-12-02 06:52 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, excellent. Anonymous Ctrl+S saved the day after all. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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