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NM ([info]narcissam) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-12-02 20:32:00


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Entry tags:do your research, fandom: supernatural

Give Me Your Huddled Masses
Thanks to an anon on [info]wank_report for all the links.

SPN fans Legoline and benitle wrote a long post called Workshop: Faking It: Pretending You're A US Citizen When You're An Ocean Away. It covers immportant issues for SPN fic writers like how big the United States is, how the social security system works, and the need to spell colour as 'color'.

Oddly enough, the writers aren't Americans or native English speakers. They talk a lot about the US as if it had just one culture. They make several mistakes. And maybe they just went a little over the top at points:

High school/college-based shows like Glee or Freaks & Geeks will give you a first impression of how the educational system works and where you need to do some further reading. If you're into shows like Criminal Minds, CSI or various police shows you can get a feeling for law enforcement (which might come in handy if you're writing a fic from Henriksen's POV about chasing the Winchesters). If you're willing to invest the money, there are plenty of textbooks about Criminal Investigation that show and explain various techniques of interrogation etc. to students of criminal science. These books are usually very expensive, but it's worth keeping an eye on Amazon marketplace or eBay - sometimes they pop up there for a few Dollars or Euros.
Initial response was positive, until someone asks if the OPs are just talking about dialogue, or are they saying the narrative should sound American too. 'Because the latter would be incredibly offensive.'

benitle responds that it's the writer's call, but they're just trying to help fic writers hide their non-American-ness. And kaboom, wank explosion!

Highlights

We should be more like HP fandom with their Britpicking leads to "Britpicking! We don't need no stinking Britpicking!"

Obligatory Fandom Flounce by starbright_73. followed up with "It truly felt like a finger pointing at all us non-Americans for being lesser." She also writes an LJ post about how 'it still feels like fandom is pissing on me for not being the right nationality.' Much ranting in comments there.

'I don't want to be upsetting, but you guys should know that about half of this stuff is either flat out wrong or does not apply to the country as a whole.' First response: You're just mean!

withdiamonds tries to find something everyone can agree on.

Um, it doesn't matter what race or class someone is, it still takes the same amount of time to drive from Indianapolis to Houston.
latentfunction won't let that stand:

Not necessarily. Someone without the money for toll roads, regular car maintenance beforehand, decent food and lodgings along the way, a buffer fund to fix the car if it breaks down halfway, gas, etc, is going to have a different trip than someone who can afford all of these things. It may be the same distance but that doesn't automatically mean it's the same time.
That's all folks! Except for the rather amusing anon-meme bonus comments.



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[info]cinnamonical
2009-12-03 05:44 am UTC (link)
See, I saw this linked in metafandom or wherever it was, and I didn't check it out myself but I was like, oh, that's interesting, that'll probably be helpful!

Then I read this part of the report: Oddly enough, the writers aren't Americans or native English speakers.

Ohhhhh lordy.

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[info]oceanica
2009-12-03 05:52 am UTC (link)
Not necessarily. Someone without the money for toll roads, regular car maintenance beforehand, decent food and lodgings along the way, a buffer fund to fix the car if it breaks down halfway, gas, etc, is going to have a different trip than someone who can afford all of these things. It may be the same distance but that doesn't automatically mean it's the same time.

Y'know, in terms of "you can't do it in an afternoon" IT DOES.

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[info]dreamtoday
2009-12-03 05:53 am UTC (link)
why can't people just focus on what's important here? the supergay brothers sexing it up across Canad-, uh, America!

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[info]themadscientist
2009-12-03 05:54 am UTC (link)
The most amazing thing about it all?

It is a SPN wank without actors or pairings involved. I am so proud that the fandom has a new wanking position!

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[info]duraniedrama
2009-12-03 06:01 am UTC (link)
If you're into shows like Criminal Minds, CSI or various police shows you can get a feeling for law enforcement

Unless you're actually in law enforcement, at which point you will be throwing things at the screen and going "No! Wrong!"

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[info]giventofly37
2009-12-03 06:08 am UTC (link)
The geography/travel time nitpicking cracks me up, since the show itself can't even get it right. Unless you have turbo jetpacks on your car, there is no way you can drive from Buffalo, NY to Queens in two hours. Even if you cut across Pennsylvania and speed the whole way, it's at least seven hours. FIVE HOURS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. /newyorker

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[info]rani
2009-12-03 06:16 am UTC (link)
*headdesk* If you do put that much energy into depicting America with 100% verisimilitude, YOU ARE MAKING MORE OF AN EFFORT THAN THE SHOWRUNNERS. Besides, I actually like it when I'm reading, say, a Stargate SG-1 story and Daniel asks to borrow Jack's torch so he can find his jumper and they can go down the pub. Gives it a charmingly school-boyish air, like they're gonna play footie and then cavort in the locker room or something.

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[info]nonnyeve
2009-12-03 06:17 am UTC (link)
Yes, our high schools are just like our tv says, all rich white kids who get into crazy romantic entanglements or the occasional minority class that just needs a teacher who can reach them.

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[info]scifantasy
2009-12-03 06:20 am UTC (link)
It's like Eagleland Osmosis turned on its ear...

(As of right now, you're spared the TV Tropes effect, as their database appears to be borked. Once they fix that...I cannot be held responsible for what you miss.)

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[info]maximuski
2009-12-03 06:49 am UTC (link)
SUPERNATURAL FANDOM DOESN'T CARE ABOUT FOREIGN PEOPLE

*DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!*

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[info]bride_of_lister
2009-12-03 07:00 am UTC (link)
This kind of kefuffle is exactly why my Supernatural campaign is set in Australia in the 70's. Less fuss and fiddling. (Although it would be better for the game if the GM would remember that Video Easy did not exist in 1975 XD)

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[info]mochibuni
2009-12-03 07:07 am UTC (link)
For all their bitchery, SPN fans sure are delicate.

The entire "driving" section had me in giggles. Especially the lack of small cars bit because I work at a Mini Cooper dealership. And since I've only lived in Washington, all of America is like Washington because I say so! Never mind that I grew up on the east side of it where it's land of the Ford truck.

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so, mini coopers.... - [info]notarose, 2009-12-03 09:16 am UTC
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[info]vorpal_blade
2009-12-03 07:18 am UTC (link)
Glee or Freaks & Geeks will give you a first impression of how the educational system works

Hahahahahaha!

Um, NO.

I don't think there's ever been any show that really communicates the way the education system works anywhere in the US. Freaks & Geeks may come closest (and that's still only the way it was in the 80's) but using Glee to find out about the US education system is like using Dr. Who to learn about telephone boxes in the UK or watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer to find out what books a typical high school librarian stocks on his shelves.

Watching TV =/= research.

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2009-12-03 07:20 am UTC (link)
You know... Freaks and Geeks may be pretty accurate (I remember really liking it when I was in high school) if you take away the, erm, 1970s stuff, but Glee? Really? The most accurate portrayal I can think of for high school is probably 10 Things I Hate About You (movie, not the show. GOD, not the show), but even then, some of that stuff is a LITTLE much.

It doesn't take me the same time to drive somewhere as it does one of my friends. Mainly because I drive like a granny, and he does not. ;)

Also, psst. I've been all over the country, from Georgia to LA, and trust me, diners all have sandwiches, grilled cheese, and some sort of cheesecake. It's diner fare!

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[info]trinity_destler
2009-12-03 07:24 am UTC (link)
There's stuff being taken So Very Seriously in there that I just... Wow. I'll just be sitting up here in the Huge Neutral North pointing and laughing.

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[info]knightrider
2009-12-03 07:38 am UTC (link)
Not necessarily. Someone without the money for toll roads, regular car maintenance beforehand, decent food and lodgings along the way, a buffer fund to fix the car if it breaks down halfway, gas, etc, is going to have a different trip than someone who can afford all of these things. It may be the same distance but that doesn't automatically mean it's the same time.

And this is why I often don't bother saying anything on the internet. No matter how simple the statement, some anal retentive out there just HAS to argue.

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[info]seca
2009-12-03 07:45 am UTC (link)
Using just about any American TV show about high school is just setting yourself up for failure if you want to portray a 'typical' high school. Especially when you take in account not all high schools across the country is set up the same (I went to a three year high school and I don't think I've ever seen a TV show portray anything but four year high schools for example.)

I mean wouldn't it be simpler and less time consuming to just find someone who went to a high school in America and ask them about it? I mean it is a popular American TV series so there's sure to be an American fan or two out there who could answer some questions about high school. Or is this just too much Earth logic being used here?

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[info]caveat_lect0r
2009-12-03 08:33 am UTC (link)
Wow, SPN fen are really outdoing themselves this week. Can't we just all enjoy Misha Collins's self-released nudes and get along?

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[info]snowden
2009-12-03 08:46 am UTC (link)
It's like Alexis de Tocqueville BUT WITH INCEST THIS TIME.

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[info]frequentmouse
2009-12-03 09:33 am UTC (link)
Does this count as the annual Winter Holiday concrit wank?

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[info]sevendeadlyfun
2009-12-03 09:34 am UTC (link)
" Some of us are sick of being told that our writing needs improvement when what's really the happening is someone being precious about minute details that really don't matter most of the time."

Oh, SPN fandom! Shine on, you special, special diamonds.

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(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2009-12-03 05:11 pm UTC

[info]blue_penguin
2009-12-03 10:52 am UTC (link)
So I guess all those dumb anime shows about high-schoolers that I've watched have given me a deep understanding of the Japanese school system and I can now write stories set in Japan secure in the knowledge that the picture fiction has given me is accurate. Sweet.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2009-12-03 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Aww, you didn't mention "The civil war wasn't about slavery!" "Yes it was!" "No it wasn't!" kerfluffle.

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[info]fashi0n_mistake
2009-12-03 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Yeah...stuff like 'this is how X nationality talks/does stuff!' never ends well.

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[info]elektra3
2009-12-03 05:58 pm UTC (link)
If you're into shows like Criminal Minds, CSI or various police shows you can get a feeling for law enforcement

And you know what else is great for doing research on the American legal system? The Ace Attorney series.

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