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insignificant other ([info]snacky) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-05-03 10:09:00
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Entry tags:author entitlement, authors, creator wank, doesn't mean what you think it means, fanfic, suck it up and deal, writers are often pompous douches, your kink is not okay

Diana Gabaldon, author of the wildly popular Outlander series, has an opinion on fan fiction: I think it’s immoral, I _know_ it’s illegal, and it makes me want to barf whenever I’ve inadvertently encountered some of it involving my characters.

Highlights include:


  • Writing fanfic is just like breaking into someone's house.
  • Fanfic is WAY WAY WAY TOO PORNY omg ick people have sexual fantasies!*
  • What to do about an auction offering fanfic to raise money for a cancer patient? She doesn't want to "seem heartless"! So she seeks advice in the comments. Which are mostly full of "Fanfic? I have never heard of such a despicable load of garbage! Also, CRUSH THAT CANCER PATIENT!"



ETA: Unpublished author Eddie Louise (who cannot write the word "shit" and seems to fail spectacularly at reading comprehension) offers fanfic writers A CHALLENGE! Accept it if you dare, sniveling pedo thieves!

ETA 2: Previously, Ms Gabaldon has said fanfic is like selling your children into white slavery. Well. Now. I don't even know what to do with that.

ETA 3: Smart Bitches, Trashy Books has some discussion on the topic.

ETA 4: And bookshop on LJ/DW has a rebuttal.

ETA 5: See what happens when I leave the sweet embrace of the internet for a few hours? Ms. Gabaldon updates her blog!

ETA 6: Evidently Ms. Gabaldon deleted all evidence of her hissyfit, but some wankas have screencaps in this thread.

ETA 7: [info]kate_nepevu has screencaps and the text of Gabaldon's posts here. And via [info]alchemynerd, more screencaps available here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tiz4vp
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ibidpj
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r6zik6
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hlknqo
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d9alsh

Thanks for all the links! :)




MOD REMINDER: Remember, my little wankas, we DO NOT troll the wank. Nor do we write fanfic after the author has specifically requested people not and post it in the comments here, no matter how tempting it may be. Carry on. oh god my inbox ow ow



*Just as a point of interest, I was a bookseller for 12 years, and had several customers tell me about the sex scenes in her books. Some were pro ("My friend told me to read these books for the sex scenes, and she was totally right, they are so hot, this is best thing to happen to my sex life in years!") and some were con ("What is up with all the sex all the time? Where's the story?"), but one thing you can't say about her books is that they're sexual-fantasy free. :D

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[info]pariforma
2010-05-03 04:58 pm UTC (link)
No, seriously. Follow me closely here: Jack Randall, who happens to be the forefather of heroine Claire's 20th-century husband, has captured her and... has some reason to turn her over to the authorities, I forget. Her 18th-century hubby Jamie offers himself to Randall in exchange for Claire's freedom, knowing that he will be sexually tortured because Randall is a bisexual sadist with a particular yen for Jamie. Some weeks after his (of course) rescue (which IIRC involves letting a herd of Highland cattle into the prison), Claire wrings the story out of him. There's penetration, hand-nailing, branding, and the extra humiliation of being made to climax.

I Am Not Making This Up. And there's weirder if less hard-core porn in later books.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-05-03 05:07 pm UTC (link)
And again I say: Wow.

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[info]quantumreality
2010-05-03 05:22 pm UTC (link)
I think my icon says it all here.

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[info]pariforma
2010-05-03 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I think you've expressed yourself quite eloquently.

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[info]atom_bunny
2010-05-03 05:51 pm UTC (link)
D:

*Makes note to avoid these books like the plague.*

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[info]randomsome1
2010-05-03 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Wasn't his admission of all this immediately followed by healing sex?

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[info]pariforma
2010-05-03 05:53 pm UTC (link)
I believe it was, yes.

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(no subject) - [info]silrana, 2010-05-04 12:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]salamandersam, 2010-05-04 06:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]etcetera_cat, 2010-05-05 06:40 pm UTC

[info]midnitemarauder
2010-05-04 02:31 am UTC (link)
Not immediately, no. He tried to send her away and basically wanted to die, she refused to leave him, and there was an opium-induced... well, it's hard to explain. But sex between them wasn't until a couple weeks later.

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[info]palabradot
2010-05-04 01:15 pm UTC (link)
WHAT.

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[info]khym_chanur
2010-05-03 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Porn-heavy romance that involves time travel? Sign me up!

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(no subject) - [info]pariforma, 2010-05-03 06:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stella_polaris, 2010-05-03 11:47 pm UTC

[info]bacon_lover
2010-05-03 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Well no wonder she's concerned about copyright infringement over badly written porn; it's clearly ripping off her schtick.

Also:As I say, I’ve unwillingly read a certain amount of fan-fic involving my characters...

HOW? How does one "unwillingly read" anything beyond a sentence? Is she a speed reader whose merest glimpse burns a volume of words into her eidetic memory, turning her into a trapped victim of her own lightning fast mind?

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(no subject) - [info]d00mpixie, 2010-05-03 10:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2010-05-04 08:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mad_teacup, 2010-05-05 01:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]elfy, 2010-05-04 02:44 pm UTC

[info]mochibuni
2010-05-03 08:12 pm UTC (link)
After reading about sad clown sex in an earlier post, I am so sad to see my D: face grow only a few days later.

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[info]kitt_in_socks
2010-05-03 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Yes, that's certainly pure and unsexual. I entirely sympathize with her.

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[info]rhosyn_du
2010-05-03 09:14 pm UTC (link)
...I am now deeply disturbed that my mother keeps recommending I read these books.

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(no subject) - [info]purple_smurf, 2010-05-04 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2010-05-04 04:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2010-05-04 08:40 am UTC

[info]radiotrash
2010-05-03 10:40 pm UTC (link)
Is it bad that now I want to finish Outlander again? (I'm like halfway through the audiobook but stopped a few weeks back and haven't restarted.)

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(no subject) - [info]aloysius, 2010-05-04 02:46 pm UTC
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[info]roachspit
2010-05-04 02:34 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the warning. I'll be avoiding these books now.

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[info]angstymcgoth
2010-05-04 02:56 am UTC (link)
Wow, and she's got a problem with fanfic? What she's writing is about par for course for the fic in my fandom, which is, admittedly, Really Awful.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2010-05-04 05:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]angstymcgoth, 2010-05-04 08:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2010-05-06 02:25 am UTC

[info]librarianmouse
2010-05-04 03:43 am UTC (link)
Wow, I kind of really want to unread that description.

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Sorry-- - [info]pariforma, 2010-05-04 04:49 pm UTC

[info]vorpal_blade
2010-05-04 04:31 am UTC (link)
Oh, yes, THAT stuff is all Okay and Normal, but fanfic is OMG Teh Ebil! ;)

Frankly, most fanfic is a hell of a lot less intense than that. Although I suspect that her main beef with the sex in fanfics set in her universe(s) is that it's probably happening between the "wrong" people.

And has this woman never heard of Parody Law?

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[info]lil_miss_stfu
2010-05-04 06:08 am UTC (link)
The fuck?

Yup, not touching those novels. Ever.

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[info]alana
2010-05-04 06:30 am UTC (link)
Oh, lord, someone reccommended this to me a couple months ago.

Iiiiii think I will stick with my fanfic, personally.

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2010-05-04 08:37 am UTC (link)
a bisexual sadist

Oh how original. :|

And if she's written fucked up stuff like that, then she has NO right to complain about fanfic.

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[info]palabradot
2010-05-04 01:15 pm UTC (link)
You know, I've been told I need to read these if I like historical adventuring fic - now I know to say NO THANK YOU.

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[info]damien
2010-05-04 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Goddamnit. Which book was that? I only ever read the Lord John ones because, well, I like gay historical romance but WTF to the main story.

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[info]persephonelives
2010-05-04 05:12 pm UTC (link)
O.O Bzuh. Holy crap, I am never ever reading her books. There is a sea of WTF here, and my brain isn't rated for WTF ocean travel.

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