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Laurie ([info]knitmeapony) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-05-14 09:22:00


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Entry tags:author entitlement, authors, can't escape the screencaps

Second verse, same as the first: Katherine Kerr hates your fanfic.
Katherine Kerr, editor of Weird Tales of Shakespeare and author of Celtic myth and Dungeons and Dragons 'inspired' novels decides to create another derivative work: her thoughts on yaoi.

A number of people on LJ have been expressing their views on fanfic, so I thought I'd add mine. I despise it.

http://aberwyn.livejournal.com/181755.html Deleted!

Caps of first post:
via alchemynerd on LJ: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7ovake
via alchemynerd on LJ: http://www.sendspace.com/file/nsjfzd
Perhaps you'd prefer PDF: http://knitmeapony.com/fw/kerr_kerfuffle_page1.pdf
Or HTML, via maneman on LJ: knitmeapony.com/fw/katherine_kerr_career_suicide.html


And this includes the professional transformative works:

If someone can think of no better idea than to take a classic kid's book series and try to wring a few more bucks out of it, like the whole 'Wicked' series, then they should get a real job.


Comment #2 is fellow author Jim Hines getting a bit snarky with the idea. She backpedals mightily in the face of a professional author.

There are disappointed fans! She replies to her own post rather than editing it!

Not to mention mocking, accusations of trolling, and weird discussions of how fanfic is like embroidery or other crafting.

First post deleted, with explanation: Because people got "offensive": http://aberwyn.livejournal.com/182244.html Also deleted, cap of this, courtesy of [info]zulu http://tinypic.com/r/akzz1d/5

Then there was a third post, which I missed entirely, dubiously titled "what's wrong with talking about quality?" Cap, courtesy of [info]woodenleg http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5620/swrongwithtalkingaboutq.png


And when the second and third posts were deleted, a martyrish post went up here: http://aberwyn.livejournal.com/182619.html

Lordy, yet another post, preserved below. Edit: Post deleted, but thankfully preserved.

And one (final?) post, this time with comments turned off:

Summing up
1. 3 or 4 of the posts in the mobbing stage were interesting and intelligent; they made a nicely reasoned defence of fanfic. Good for you! You might have changed my mind if it weren't for the others.

2. The rest of the 200 or so posts actually proved my points about poor writing skills, lack of cultural knowledge, and lack of imagination, since they repeated each other's thoughts in varying degrees of inarticulate language. One person, in a post I screened by disallowed, even used a toilet reference that was supposed to embarrass me. He also seemed to think I'm man, oddly enough.

3. A sloppy syllogism for those who didn't get the B'rer Rabbit point:
A. I dislike fanfic and don't want anyone writing it about my work.
B. If you don't read my work, you can't write about it.
C. Therefore threatening to ignore my work does not injure me in any way. Rather, I'm relieved that you won't.

4. The mobbing was not merely rude to me. We can agree on the point that the flip tone of my original post deserved the response it got. However, the mobbing was rude to all the regular readers of this space. It bored them, it cut off their right of discussion, and I suspect it convinced some of them that my original post's opinion of fanfic writers was in the main correct.


Personally, I think this fanfic of the Diana Gabaldon kerfuffle has a paucity of imagination. And relatively dull.


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[info]misachan
2010-05-14 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Best quote: Fans who write non-porn stories about TV shows are a different kind of writer. If they love the shows, which are a group production to begin with, that much, what the hell, they probably don't have the taste and imagination to write anything original anyway.

Hear that, TV fans? We all lack taste and imagination!

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[info]tofuknight
2010-05-14 06:33 pm UTC (link)
Wait... so it would be more tasteful and imaginative to write porn fanfic?

I thought most of the anti-ficcers were all "NOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT TEH SEXXORS!!!!! MY PRECIOUS PEARLS/HUSBAND/BABIES/CASH COW!!!!"

Huh.

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[info]silmaril
2010-05-14 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Nonono, you misunderstand. You only lack taste and imagination if you are a fan who writes fanfic.

You know, for instance if you imagine situations and events that weren't shown on camera, or played "what if" games using your imagination, or felt that the show's original writers had not taken the implications of something that happens onscreen far enough and decided to fill in... with your imagination. Only then do you have no imagination.

...wait.

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[info]librarianmouse
2010-05-15 07:21 am UTC (link)
Everyone knows that the people with real imagination accept what the writer tells them and don't try to upstage her!

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[info]mizii_marzen
2010-05-16 12:59 pm UTC (link)
So... the only way to show you like characters is to write porn about them? Otherwise you're just stealing ideas! It's not like you're admitting it's fanfic, which might get more people to look at the source material and will be acknowledged by readers as having borrowed plot elements because it's fanfic.

-boggles-

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[info]medie
2010-05-18 01:06 am UTC (link)
But don't worry! We get it back just as soon as we dabble in a literary fandom.

Of course, we lose it again the second we stop.

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