delfeus
2003-08-08 03:58 pm UTC (link)

Well, I guess I'll have to extend my nasty comments to religious freaks in general, not just christians.

I get the occult theme, since there's speak of witchcraft, but where do they get the anti-family approach? The Weasleys are a wonderful loving family, the Potters really loved Harry, etc etc. *confused* Of course, religious freaks usually don't need reasons for their opinions...

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	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-08 05:23 pm UTC (link)
	As I've said before, Saudi have also banned pokemon since it encourages both gambling and darwin's theory of evolution. THE HORROR! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	delfeus 2003-08-08 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	Really? I thought it was just a bad joke. I heard that in some USA states they actually teach that God created people & everything, and some teacher got problems because (s)he taught the kids the evolution theory. Is that an urban legend? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	yadda 2003-08-08 06:58 pm UTC (link)
	Well, that sort of thing happens from time to time (people are always arguing about religion and public schools, I think the most recent evolution fight was in Kansa). The Scopes Monkey Trial is the most famous case. The problem is curriculum varies from place to place and everyone has different opinions on to what extent evolution should be taught. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-08 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah. And isn't it like sex ed where ifyou don't want your kids to join in you can opt to keep them out? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: yadda 2003-08-08 10:10 pm UTC (link)
	I think it is in some places. It wasn't a big deal where I was from. There's a whole unit on evolution/punctuated equilibrium/whatever in biology but, as far as I know, no one has ever complained or asked to be excluded. (Reply to this)(Parent)

delfeus
2003-08-08 10:47 pm UTC (link)

This is really hard for me to imagine. I mean, religion is a mandatory class in school [before High School] here in Finland, but the religious beliefs are kept out of other subjects. I get enraged when I hear that children are brainwashed with that stuff. Even the religion classes are mandatory only to those of the religion in question, others get a free period then. [well, people of other religion, atheists must attend the classes] At least that's what happened in my old school... In High School people get to choose whether or not to study it.

Religions should be kept out of science and politics.

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	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-09 02:50 am UTC (link)
	Thank you. I've got no problem with learning about religions. In fact I find it fascinating and was glad of the opportunity to do so in high school and middle school. however it tended to focus on all religions and the historic sides of things as well as the mythology. That sort of thing really holds my interest. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

delfeus
2003-08-09 03:39 am UTC (link)

I know. I took two boring courses about christianity in High School, so I could take the course about other religions... was really interesting. I find most religions interesting as ideologies, as well as the mythologies that accompany them, I just don't like the fact that some people take them too seriously. In my opinion, everyone should be given the right to believe in what they want, as long as it harms no one. That is the main reason why I left the christian church, because they believe they are right, and can't accept that other people have the right to believe in what they will - to them, anyone who isn't a christian will go to hell. [and I'm speaking of the fanatics, not everyday people] Other reasons were their continuing harassment of metal people [of course we worship satan, we dress in black! whether or not we believe in satan], and the fact that when the gay marriage law was under discussion, most people who were against it were practicing christians. We managed to get it through, but their speak of "sin" and such things was the famous last drop to me.

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	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-08 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	No, it's all too true in some of hte more conservative states. In fact there's probably someone kicking up creationist fuss in most states. Religion separated from state my arse. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rhi_silverflame 2003-08-08 08:46 pm UTC (link)
	Gambling and evo . . . (insert sound of brain frying) That makes no sense. But then again, the Christian fundamentalists must be competing with them, 'cause this doesn't make any sense either. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	beandelphiki 2003-08-08 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	I saw that on my friends list. I thought it was great. I mean, dude, they're burning Coneheads. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rhi_silverflame 2003-08-08 09:37 pm UTC (link)
	And while I fully agree that Shania Twain is evil and must be stopped, couldn't they have burned that inane new album of hers that had two different versions so as to pander to both the pop and country markets?!? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-09 02:45 am UTC (link)
	She's hideous. So much plastic surgery... shudder (Reply to this)(Parent)

	delfeus 2003-08-08 10:42 pm UTC (link)
	stares rubs eyes stares I just don't understand people anymore. E.T. GO HOME! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: mistresssaigon 2003-08-09 02:49 am UTC (link)
	I gave up trying to understand people AAAGES ago. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	eh? ichigatsu 2003-08-09 10:29 am UTC (link)
	the books have already been banned in the Philippines and Malaysia. So what are all the Harry Potter books and merchandise on shelves in stores everywhere I go doing, then? ~someone who lives in the Philippines (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: eh? mistresssaigon 2003-08-09 01:07 pm UTC (link)
	it's the philippines. if it's anything like indonesia or a lot of the thoer third world asian countries i grew up in a ban doesn't actually mean very much, other than the fact that the police can use the law when they feel like they need a bribe to go buy lunch. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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ichigatsu
2003-08-11 05:43 am UTC (link)

I really think the article got it wrong. Malaysia I'm not surprised, because it's a predominantly Muslim country, but in the Philippines Muslims are the minority. The thing is, if there was a ban we would be aware of it, seeing as people in the Philippines stage rallies left and right everytime we hear something we don't like. Just clarifying things.

the police can use the law when they feel like they need a bribe to go buy lunch.
That's sad, and true.

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	tamir 2003-08-10 01:29 pm UTC (link)
	I bought the bookset from Khubar in Saudia Arabia the previous winter as a gift for a friend, and there was no sign of any ban ^_^;; The major bookstores are still carrying the books scratches her head Then again, I'd expect anything from teh country that banned Pokemon. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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mistresssaigon
2003-08-10 02:14 pm UTC (link)

well, the same thing happened in indonesia. it was illegal to buy anything or import anything that had chinese writing on it for fear of communism (i'm quite serious here). yet that never stopped people from going out and buying the stuff. all that happened was the occasional confiscation in the airport during customs.

Speaking of wanky bans, you can now get chewing gum in singapore IF your doctor gives you a prescription, presumably for reducing cavities and such.

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