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Wank machine keeps on rollin'
1. Pixar makes incredible, mind-blowing third movie in Toy Story series.
2. Rotten Tomatoes logs over 130 reviews - all positive.
3. Toy Story 3 gets it's first (so far, only) bad reviews.
4. Internet explodes. (Also here.)

The wank seems to be focused on Armond White's review, as he is known for seemingly giving any review that goes against the general consenus. (He inexplicably seems in favour of Transformers 2, for instance.) He also doesn't appear to have actually watched the movie (identifying Hamm as a villain.) His negative review was actually predicted by a number of commenters in this earlier article, asking readers to predict where Toy Story 3 would end up on the Tomatometer rating.

It's all very dramatic, with wank in every corner. But of course, the most important Toy Story-related argument is and always will always be: Buzz/Jessie or Woody/Jessie?*

*Anyone's who's seen the movie will know the right answer to this.

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	beejium 2010-06-21 03:55 am UTC (link)
	Okay. But apart from the fact that I don't understand how you could not appreciate art without being able to do it (I can't paint, for instance, but I can still appreciate a beautiful painting when I see one), you're still completely ignoring all the so-called "appreciable" art that does go into making these movies. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

back_in_black
2010-06-21 04:06 am UTC (link)

What I mean by appreciate is I like to try and see what kind of brush or what brush size they might have been using, whether or not they made use of *trying to think of examles* stippling or pthalo green, etc, and wondering if I could reproduce it. I like to get really technical, I guess. I can't do that with Pixar. I just look at it and think 'Hey, that's 3D. I bet that was hard to do." The end.

My issues are not just with Pixar, btw. I deeply dislike 99% of Disney movies with a passion, too, and I have ever since I was very, very young. I kinda just...hate family films. I'm sure it's the lack of a soul that's responsible, as someone above kindly pointed out.

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	beejium 2010-06-21 04:08 am UTC (link)
	No, I get it. You want to play the "dark and tormented" card. Whatevs. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

back_in_black
2010-06-21 04:15 am UTC (link)

What? No. I just don't like cutesy things. You're reading an awful lot into what I've said. I don't like Disney because they tend to aim really restrictive gender roles at children. It's like, have a bundle of cute while we imply that you if you're not attractive you're probably evil. Enjoy, kids!

Also they seem to have this really weird agenda with making things sad so kids cry. I mean, it seems purposeful. Bambi, anyone? When I was a kid I felt stupid when I cried and therefore I didn't like Disney. That's not dark and tortured, it's the reverse. I wanted to be happy and I still do.

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cyndra_falin
2010-06-21 08:32 am UTC (link)

imply that you if you're not attractive you're probably evil

I never went for the Disney Princesses. To me, the evil Queens were always much more beautiful and very attractive. *shrug*

When I was a kid I felt stupid when I cried and therefore I didn't like Disney.

So was it ONE Disney movie that made you cry and because of that ONE movie, you decided to hate Disney? Or was it several in a row that made you come to this conclusion? I'm really curious.

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	cyndra_falin 2010-06-21 08:34 am UTC (link)
	Sorry. Dislike, not hate. (Reply to this)(Parent)

argylespy
2010-06-21 08:43 pm UTC (link)

Bambi, anyone?

Check the source material. Salten didn't linger too much on the death of Bambi's mother but I figure it was kind of a trade-off on Disney's part since Bambi's cousin does die a heartbreaking death but also doesn't appear in the movie at all.

. . . actually, come to think of it, the whole book is really all about everyone around Bambi dying while he tries to figure out why he has such a Deep And Meaningful Connection to the Old Prince over the course of twenty-some-odd chapters.

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pandonkey
2010-06-22 05:02 am UTC (link)

. . . actually, come to think of it, the whole book is really all about everyone around Bambi dying while he tries to figure out why he has such a Deep And Meaningful Connection to the Old Prince over the course of twenty-some-odd chapters.

Yep. I read it when I was about 10 or 11, and the two things that have stuck with me the most to this day are Gobo's death (which you mentioned) and the bit in which two leaves discuss the end of their lives as they're about to fall. Death galore.

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	back_in_black 2010-06-21 04:36 am UTC (link)
	By the way, I apologize for starting a mini-wank on a post you made. I didn't realize I'd get a strong enough reaction to derail things with a really long and unrelated thread. I figured I'd get maybe a "Yeah, me too" or something, not all this. Sorry. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	demonoflight 2010-06-21 07:05 am UTC (link)
	points at your icon excitedly Corpse Bride!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cmdr_zoom 2010-06-29 07:16 am UTC (link)
	I understand what you're saying, I think. I sometimes regret I don't know enough about music to appreciate it more. :/ That said, there's a lot of art I like as a pure consumer/viewer/listener, knowing little or nothing about the techniques employed in its creation. I wonder, why do you feel the "need" to know how it was done before you can like it (or not)? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	back_in_black 2010-06-21 04:07 am UTC (link)
	phthalo (Reply to this)(Parent)

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