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tetradecimal (tetradecimal) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-07-21 10:14:00
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Entry tags:charity, fandom: shortpacked, fandom: transformers, webcomics

We call it the aristocrats
Dave Willis, author of the webcomic Shortpacked, posts a comic about two outspoken, popular(?) fandom bloggers who apparently are not big on Beast Wars. It is not very flattering.

These two bloggers (one Tom Croom, and one Joey Snackpants) soon show up in the comments to sow seeds of dissent. Or something.

Tom Croom is in a webcomic!
You clearly don't understand the true definition of "straw man".
Tom Croom will tell you why Beast Wars sucks if you donate $250 to the charity of his choice!
YOU CANNOT TRICK DAVE WILLIS.
Joey Snackpants still thinks Beast Wars sucks!

And as a bonus: This all started when because someone didn't get invited to a Transformers convention. I mean, have you seen their panel?

ETA: Apparently there's a Shortpacked tag.


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[info]phosfate
2010-07-21 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Then I would bring up the point that, after working in professional entertainment for YEARS, I’ve seen the most successful national bands grow in popularity by knowing when to let a local act open up for them.

Ahahahahahaaaaaaa good one oh wait he's serious.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-07-21 10:04 pm UTC (link)
This is delicious.

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[info]duraniedrama
2010-07-22 03:21 am UTC (link)
That's so backasswards I don't even know what to do with it.

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[info]deadwood
2010-07-21 06:02 pm UTC (link)
"Wah, they didn't invite me to their party!"

Also, as nice as it is to donate to charity, that is some self-serving crap right there.

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[info]sarracenia
2010-07-21 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Man, for that amount of butthurt the panel should cause world peace or something.

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(no subject) - [info]ghostmaster, 2010-07-22 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyophelia14, 2010-07-22 06:44 am UTC

[info]bitca
2010-07-21 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Well, I know 2 things from reading this wank:

1) I am going to dig out my Beast Wars DVDs and start rewatching them tonight.

2) I am staying far, far away from anything these idiots are doing at GenCon. Even if their event is free.

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[info]eleganceliberty
2010-07-21 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Yanno, what is it about Beast Wars that really brings out the wankiness in Transformers fandom? I've been wondering this for years and to this day I've yet to really find a good answer.

[Side tangent: I mean, as much as I love BW -and to a lesser extent, also Beast Machines to a point-, even I admit it has its faults and isn't by any means the Perfect Series. But c'mon... 'Code of Hero'. I'm not gonna lie: I found Dinobot's death more tearjerking and meaningful than Optimus Prime's in the 1986 movie.]

Oh, and trying to rope a charity into this? Smells like a last ditch effort to make himself look good, even when his attitude elsewhere suggests otherwise. Stay classy, my man. Stay classy.

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(no subject) - [info]bravest_spinja, 2010-07-21 07:23 pm UTC
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[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-07-21 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I saw the first round of this. I'm not going back to see what's happened since.

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[info]mochibuni
2010-07-21 07:39 pm UTC (link)
1. The 2010 attendance was 3000 attendees based on our combined visual assessment. (Both mine and Joey’s professional backgrounds pertain specifinally to counting people at events.)

I'll be over here gigglesnorting.

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(no subject) - [info]lissibith, 2010-07-21 08:37 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2010-07-21 08:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2010-07-21 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-07-21 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-07-21 10:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]researchgrrrl, 2010-07-22 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]taichara, 2010-07-22 04:36 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-23 09:49 pm UTC
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[info]aycelcus
2010-07-21 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Wait. Waitaminutehere.....

*reads comments* *rereads*

*BOGGLES*

These two nitwits CHARGE MONEY for their fan panel? For real? And people fall for this? I mean, I've been going to cons since I was, guh, twelve, and that's a fair amount of cons over the *mumbles*18years*mumbles* I've been at cons, and I've seen people pay for banquets, and autographs, and the occasional special sit-down with some big big guest (usually the GOH) and I've never seen ANYONE pay money to go to a fan panel. The closest thing thing to that I can think of is paying for supplies at a costuming/makeup/some other crafting learning panel thing.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-07-21 08:49 pm UTC
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[info]makeshyft
2010-07-21 09:55 pm UTC (link)
This makes me glad that while I loves me some Transformers.. I stay faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from the fandom.

Now I shall go play some War For Cyberton MP and hopefully forget about this.

....

Protip: Having a good friend let you stick magna bombs on his scientist so he can fly into a cluster of scouts and blow them all up while yelling "JIHAAAAAAD!"? Tasteless, but funny.

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(no subject) - [info]eleganceliberty, 2010-07-22 02:15 am UTC

[info]kookaburra
2010-07-21 10:31 pm UTC (link)
I need to save this to link TF fanboys to when they start complaining about how all the icky girls in fandom cause all the "drama".

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(no subject) - [info]eleganceliberty, 2010-07-21 11:43 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eleganceliberty, 2010-07-22 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2010-07-22 03:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mochibuni, 2010-07-22 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-22 06:16 pm UTC
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[info]killer_gopher
2010-07-21 10:56 pm UTC (link)
Okay, quick question is this the same Dave Willis that's on adult swim? Voice of Meatwad?

And why out of this wank is this the first thing that pops into my mind?

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(no subject) - [info]mister_terrific, 2010-07-22 12:01 am UTC
Just for more fun - [info]aycelcus, 2010-07-22 12:15 am UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]b_jellybean, 2010-07-22 06:00 am UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]kookaburra, 2010-07-22 06:59 am UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]b_jellybean, 2010-07-22 03:35 pm UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]kookaburra, 2010-07-22 04:06 pm UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]b_jellybean, 2010-07-23 04:45 am UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]sepiamagpie, 2010-07-24 06:01 pm UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]demonoflight, 2010-07-24 08:24 pm UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]kookaburra, 2010-07-24 08:31 pm UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]doop, 2010-07-29 01:42 am UTC
Re: Just for more fun - [info]b_jellybean, 2010-07-29 02:18 am UTC
I think the real question is
[info]iczer6
2010-07-22 12:34 am UTC (link)
Why is the character in the posters icon looking at the creature so lovingly?

Seriously I can't concentrate.

I need to know.

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Re: I think the real question is - [info]qem_chibati, 2010-07-22 10:27 am UTC
Re: I think the real question is - [info]iczer6, 2010-07-22 11:06 am UTC
Re: I think the real question is - [info]khym_chanur, 2010-07-23 01:59 am UTC

[info]neuronin
2010-07-22 03:11 am UTC (link)
TRUKK NOT MUNKY.

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(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2010-07-22 03:25 am UTC
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[info]duraniedrama
2010-07-22 03:42 am UTC (link)
Who are these two blowhards and why should I give a shit what they have to say again?

What is it about geeks and their insistence on flinging around opinions as if they were facts?

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[info]edelweiss
2010-07-22 04:04 am UTC (link)
"I just hated it the same way I hate cabbage."

Now, if only I hated cabbage so I could use that...

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[info]demonbean
2010-07-22 04:56 am UTC (link)
What is Beast Wars? Why does David Willis hate them so much for disliking it? Why do they have to give a point-by-point of why it sucks, and why do they care enough to give one in a panel, anyway?

On the other hand, I'll totally jump on the bandwagon of, "Charging for a panel? Ridiculous!"

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(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2010-07-22 04:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-22 06:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-07-22 06:19 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2010-07-22 10:16 am UTC (link)
This hardly even needs wanking. It's a self-illustrating field of wankiness. The recursion is awesome.

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[info]mcity
2010-07-22 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Rule of being a BNF #1: If people are making fun of you, either take it good-naturedly, even if you have to fake it, or don't respond. Ever.

How do people not know this?

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-07-23 03:53 am UTC
And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about.
[info]seiberwing
2010-07-23 10:02 pm UTC (link)


The very concept of Beast Wars is terrible. I’m sorry you can’t see that.

Transformers are robots in disguise. Their alt-modes must serve some purpose. Either disguise in an alien environment, or improved aerodynamics or something. On a prehistoric world with no other sentient beings, transforming into a collection of animals that didn’t even live at the same time period, colored unrealisticaly, and bristling with weaponry fails on so many levels. Any creature with a reasonable intellect can tell that these things aren’t real “beasts” — but there aren’t any intelligent natives around to notice! There is _no_ reason for them to have beast modes. It fails the basic conceit of the entire Transformers line.

I don’t know if that has anything to do with the arguments raised people you so hypocritically mock in your strip, Willis, but that is the fundamental reason why Beast Wars is a terrible show.


WATCH. THE DAMN. SHOW. The entire reason they took on 'beast modes' was because they needed protection from the high energon levels causing them to have sparking epileptic fits every time they went outside for too long. This is explained in the first episode. For that matter it also allows them to get around far better than wheels, due to the planet having no roads yet. Oh, FYI--the originals transformed before coming to Earth and needing to be 'in disguise' in the first place, not that this did much because they weren't very good at not being out in public being all roboty.

If he doesn't like it, fine, I didn't much care for RiD because it managed to make a crossdressing Autobot-seducing Megatron boring. But get your facts straight.

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Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - tetradecimal, 2010-07-23 10:09 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-23 10:30 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]alana, 2010-07-24 07:06 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-24 07:08 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]alana, 2010-07-24 07:20 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-24 07:26 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]alana, 2010-07-24 07:39 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]seiberwing, 2010-07-24 08:14 pm UTC
Re: And now for my comment rebuttal that no one cares about. - [info]banesidhe, 2010-07-28 06:19 pm UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2010-07-24 12:42 am UTC (link)
Nice distraction. Now, if you had proven yourself at all trustworthy, then you might have a deal. But you’ve been nothing but a cowardly hack full of bullshit, and I’m not falling for your red herring. I trust you to follow up on this just as much as I trust you to interact with other human beings in a genuine manner, which is not at all.

But, sure, use this as cover for you to bow out, and to return to the comforting shadows where you feel safe and warm. I give you permission.

What a fucking blowhard you are. There’s not one single ball between the two of you.

"HOW DARE YOU NOT TELL ME WHY YOU DON'T LIKE BEAST WARS. YOU, SIR, ARE NO GENTLEMEN. I SHALL NOW INSULT YOUR GENITALS. GOOD DAY."

I loved Beast Wars and Croon's icon is creeping me out.

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[info]seiberwing
2010-07-24 01:44 am UTC (link)
You missed this one, where his douchebaggery gets even douchier.

really thought this would be over by now. I should be posting more stories from my weekend in Colorado… but I guess not. LOL

I am reposting part of my reply I made to someone in one of my other posts as part of this update to address some of the really inane shit I have been reading in the past twenty-four hours.

So all you zany Transformers fans still lurking around by blog – read on!

The core of all this (lest we forget) is a bunch of fanboys arguing about toys and cartoons from their childhood on the Internet. SERIOUS business folks.

People asked for my opinion about said toys and cartoons – I have explained that I reserve that conversation/material for the panels we provide as *entertainment* at a number of conventions.

After further pressing – I offered to explain the thought process (of why Beast Wars sucks) IF something good could come from it beyond opening a whole new debate on the Internet… thus I chose a charity to push for. One, I might add, I feel very strongly about.

I’m just a guy with a blog who likes to write. On my blog, I tend to share my opinions. It seems a majority of the BotCon attendees who have found my blog and keep posting here, though, are “those” fans that the rest of us make fun of… over-obsessive to the point of looking for a flame war or just being a troll.

People keep talking about facts and opinions. Here are some facts:

* I wrote a review for a fandom convention (trade show) for a pop culture website.
* I posted my opinions on my blog… as I tend to do.
* I never went to Transformers fan forums bitch and moan.
* I never wrote a webcomic satirizing any of this.

I took a silly Internet argument and tried to make SOME good of it… and as a result, learned that 10% of the Transformers fans from BotCon (that I come across) who populate the Internet “get it” – and the other 90% really, really need to get a life.

So keep posting! I haven’t had this much focus on my little corner of the Internet since the Ford fiasco. But who cares, right? I’m just a guy with a blog with an opinion that NO ONE cares about… yet here people are posting.

You “people” should think about that. :)

For those of you that have made donations for Give Kids the World… THANK YOU. [...]If you have made a donation, and I have your email confirmation, feel free to call me.[...] When I call, I will give you a five minute explanation of why, without a doubt, Beast Wars sucks and I will be more than happy to hear why you think otherwise.

He really thinks people will want to pay him to tell them why a show sucks, when we can hear that for free elsewhere on the internet or god forbid just draw our own conclusions. What drives this madman?

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-07-24 03:40 am UTC

[info]evanwaters
2010-07-24 08:42 pm UTC (link)
"Well – I will present the argument here on my blog and open it up to scrutiny and analysis for all of the Beast Wars fans who been asking online.

For a price."

MY OPINIONS ARE VALUABLE.

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[info]somuchwhatever
2010-08-01 07:59 pm UTC (link)
I really don't care at all about anything in this wank, but for the title alone, you win the internets.

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