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tetradecimal (tetradecimal) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-08-10 08:15:00
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Entry tags:art, creator wank, oops a minor

Eleanor Roosevelt says you're paid in exposure
Edit: False alarm, the author of the wank is underage.

But have some cake in compensation.


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[info]dragonfangirl
2010-08-10 02:56 pm UTC (link)
Dragon’s very innocuous comments have struck a nerve, causing them to be misconstrued and taken terribly out of context.

This is a very special kind of... special. "How dare you be offended by his TOTALLY INNOCUOUS AND NOT AT ALL EXPLOITATIVE COMMENTS!" I mean, the whole thing is, mm, hard to find a good one-word summary for it, but this really does take the cake in terms of disingenuousness.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2010-08-10 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Is he talking about himself in the third person, or did someone else write that comment?

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tetradecimal
2010-08-10 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, fixed to make it more clear. The replacement comment is from a defender of the author (barring sockpuppets).

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(no subject) - [info]the__ivorytower, 2010-08-10 03:05 pm UTC

[info]ardath_rekha
2010-08-10 03:09 pm UTC (link)
. . . "my putting a price on his work" . . .

Uh, no, that's not how free market economies work, precious. You don't decide the value of someone's work in a vaccuum. They set a price and find out who will pay it. If nobody does, they adjust their price. In a competitive market, in which artists are competing for buyers and buyers are competing (via bidding) for artwork.

Lying to someone about the value of their work, setting deflated prices that don't reflect a work's true value but pretending they do... that's not paying for it. That's defrauding the artist. Biiiiiiig difference, sunshine.

...Oh wait, I'm not supposed to use Earth Logic here, am I? *blush*

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[info]dragonsong12
2010-08-10 03:10 pm UTC (link)
As a failed artist myself, I'll resist the strong urge to rage at this.

But it's a brilliant business plan, really. Not being up front with the people you're collaborating with is a fantastic way to build solid working relationships and foster feelings of goodwill and teamwork with all parties involved. Just imagine the high quality products you'll get with future projects!

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[info]jaseroque
2010-08-10 03:14 pm UTC (link)
.. that really is the perfect icon for this wank. I feel we should make Phoney Bone its patron saint or something.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonsong12, 2010-08-10 05:35 pm UTC

[info]persona
2010-08-10 07:00 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow, I didn't expect to see a Bone icon here. :D

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[info]groovytastic
2010-08-10 03:14 pm UTC (link)
What an asshole.

Some of you complained about the way I deal with payments, which actually surprised me to a great extent. There have been several times I’ve been working on a game with an artist only to have him/her walk out on me halfway through. Paying after guarantees safety for both parties.

Actually, that only seems to guarantee safety for you, douchebag.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 03:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]groovytastic, 2010-08-10 03:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 03:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shark, 2010-08-10 03:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]groovytastic, 2010-08-10 03:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shark, 2010-08-10 03:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarracenia, 2010-08-10 04:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stealth_noodle, 2010-08-10 04:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]groovytastic, 2010-08-10 04:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonsong12, 2010-08-10 05:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-08-10 06:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2010-08-10 05:55 pm UTC

[info]groovytastic
2010-08-10 03:24 pm UTC (link)
AND WHY CAN'T HE SPELL "PAID".

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[info]keleri
2010-08-10 03:25 pm UTC (link)
Oof. There really needs to be an internet safety course for scammers like this. It doesn't help that there's a huge crop of naive, unsuspecting teenage artists out there that can be taken in by stuff like this. I stopped watching one artist on dA after a flurry of hysterical journals about some guy who emailed her, offered a spot in a super-special art university that was so new there wasn't a website for it yet and he needed $5000 up front or he'd give away her spot. She was all like OMG I WANT TO GO SO BAD WHAT DO I DO GUYS. I suppose she should get credit for asking the internet first before ponying up the money, but christ on a cracker.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 03:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2010-08-10 07:02 pm UTC

[info]ahiru
2010-08-10 03:34 pm UTC (link)
I’m sorry for anyone that finds capitalism to be the devil.

For reals, guys. All he's saying is that you should hire someone who will work for less than they're worth, refuse to pay them until the job is completed and pay them even less if the job's not done by a possibly knowingly unreasonable deadline or if it doesn't meet arbitrary standards that the person doing the hiring can change at will in order to deny the artist money they rightfully earned. What, are you all sociali$ts or something?

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2010-08-10 03:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2010-08-10 09:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2010-08-10 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2010-08-10 11:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2010-08-10 11:55 pm UTC

[info]ecchaniz0r
2010-08-10 03:43 pm UTC (link)
And predictably the victim-blaming mouth fappers come out in force!

Amusingly, these are the people who cry the loudest and longest whenever anything he east bit bad happens to them. None of them can take the tiniest slight or 'injustice' against them (with 'injustice' meaning 'it didn't come out with them on top'). They're all pissy, prating little stinkbabies.

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[info]sarracenia
2010-08-10 04:10 pm UTC (link)
I like how the defender is defending Kaitol because he's helping artists earn a living, when it sounds like he's doing everything possible to avoid paying a living wage.

I wonder if he's ever managed to get someone to work with him twice.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 04:20 pm UTC

[info]wankismyfandom
2010-08-10 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Colleen Doran is on the case!

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-08-10 04:27 pm UTC (link)
*cracks whip*
Draw faster, art slaves!

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[info]veneotaqueen
2010-08-10 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Capitalism doesn't work that way!

Also, ED says main wanker is underage. Not that I trust them, but, should we investigate more or claim exception? Because this is an different level of idiocy.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 04:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyan_aura, 2010-08-10 10:58 pm UTC

[info]coffeebun
2010-08-10 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Wow. WOW. This sounds even worse than that Tokyopop thing from before.

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(no subject) - [info]reovu, 2010-08-10 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffeebun, 2010-08-10 04:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]reovu, 2010-08-10 04:58 pm UTC
yay it's my first post!
[info]reovu
2010-08-10 04:44 pm UTC (link)
I bet conceptart.org is having a field day with this one..or will be?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
[info]kirsten
2010-08-10 05:25 pm UTC (link)
I thought there was finally a new wank, and now you have crushed my dreams.

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Re: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :( - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 05:38 pm UTC
Re: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :( - [info]kirsten, 2010-08-10 05:47 pm UTC

[info]bigbigtruck
2010-08-10 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I saw this before it came to JF, and I gotta say, that reads like the motivation behind 90% of the "we're going to publish this RPG/comic SOMEDAY, HONEST" or "we're a financially solvent publisher, REALLY!" requests out there.


/bitter and untrusting

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[info]cyndra_falin
2010-08-10 06:41 pm UTC (link)
I heart you so much right now for your Portal icons and the cake link. HAVE MY PORTAL BABIES!!!

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-10 08:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2010-08-10 10:20 pm UTC

[info]platedlizard
2010-08-10 08:29 pm UTC (link)
Awww, I missed it.

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(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2010-08-10 08:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2010-08-10 11:26 pm UTC

[info]varethane
2010-08-11 01:44 am UTC (link)
.....Wait, underage? For serious?

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-11 01:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]varethane, 2010-08-11 01:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jupiterpluvius, 2010-08-11 02:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2010-08-11 08:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]doire, 2010-08-11 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2010-08-11 06:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2010-08-11 10:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2010-08-11 10:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2010-08-12 04:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]platedlizard, 2010-08-11 09:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-11 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2010-08-12 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2010-08-12 03:06 pm UTC

[info]also_not_a_pipe
2010-08-11 05:17 am UTC (link)
She is? Damn, I never would have guessed that Eleanor Roosevelt was under eighteen.

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[info]adevyish
2010-08-11 07:19 am UTC (link)
I almost didn't recognize you with the icon!

Have some GLaDOS music.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2010-08-11 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gmth, 2010-08-11 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2010-08-12 09:56 pm UTC

  
   
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