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Sep (lord of all I survey) ([info]sepiamagpie) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-08-20 22:02:00


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Entry tags:elitism, person: laurell k. hamilton, writers are often pompous douches

credit to white_serpent for finding these links in the first place
Laurell K Hamilton starts off a post entitled: Bleeding on my Keyboard. It starts off with a quote from Leo Tolstoy and some vivid blood talk. Anyway, it's about her book going slow.

It ends with:

The way I write is not for everyone, God knows, but for me it’s the only way I know. It’s the way I’ve always written. It is not a safe way to do this job, but when I dance with the muse it is always a thing of battles, and violence; shared pain and joy. Right now Anita is hurting and so am I, the only thing I can try to do is to keep her pain off of my “real” life, and my pain off of hers. Her problems are not mine, and mine are not hers. Some separation must remain or we will both go mad. Or maybe we’ll simply weep.


Oh, also she says most other authors are big fakes.

Strangely, not everyone is impressed by whatever it was Hamilton was going for above.

It is then brought to discussion on the amazon boards, where the comments start out fairly positive but things start to take a turn for the worst on page one. (To quote [info]white_serpent: Amazon commenters: Cool! And Armintrout's books are good! No, they're bad! Unprofessional! Laurell's delusional! Pot/Kettle! Let's break out the threats of violence! (And that's just the first two pages.))

Hamilton's my favourite part, though.



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[info]alexa
2010-08-21 05:14 am UTC (link)
It’s the way I’ve always written.

Weird. I thought she used to write a lot better.

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[info]tehrin
2010-08-21 05:26 am UTC (link)
Right now Anita is hurting and so am I

I'd hurt too if I was written by Hamilton.

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[info]misachan
2010-08-21 05:33 am UTC (link)
Anita Blake is one of my favorite authors despite my never, ever having read one of her books. Does that make me a bad person? Seeing her name made me clap my hands like a seal.

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[info]dejana
2010-08-21 05:33 am UTC (link)
I’m one of the few writers that routinely calls my characters, imaginary friends. Like any good friend when they hurt, a little bit of you hurts, but when you’re there for the tragedy, to see it, feel it, smell it, taste it, wipe the tears away, hold them while they scream, well, you don’t forget days like that.

Personally, I've always thought writers who believe they have actual conversations with their characters were a bit unhinged.

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[info]vorpal_blade
2010-08-21 05:40 am UTC (link)
Wouldn't it be nice if, for once, when an author I haven't read is mentioned on FW, the classy way they behave or clever things they say make me think, "Huh, I should go out and buy some of her books and give them a try. Seems like they might be good."

I think the only time so far that this has happened for me when an author's name has come up on FW is when Elizabeth Hand reviewed Breaking Dawn and wrote, "Reader, I hurled."

And now we're back...

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[info]shinga
2010-08-21 05:41 am UTC (link)
I read one of her books once. There was a naked wereleopard who I'm not even sure was legal.

...

I'll be honest that's the only thing I remember.

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[info]sorchar
2010-08-21 06:46 am UTC (link)
Oh, LKH. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

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[info]coquelicot
2010-08-21 07:05 am UTC (link)
...when I dance with the muse it is always a thing of battles, and violence; shared pain and joy.

Oh GAG.

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[info]faultypremise
2010-08-21 07:05 am UTC (link)
I remember reading 'Guilty Pleasures' and kinda liking it. It wasn't until much later I discovered she had written more novels in that universe. And at the same time realized she was completely bugnuts. So I never did read past the first book.

Now I'm curious. Just like I was curious about Twilight and picked up the first novel and... by page 252 put it down and never picked it up again.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2010-08-21 07:36 am UTC (link)
I know that she didn't originate the "when I write, it's more like I open my veins and pour it on the keyboard" thing, but it still makes me wince to see it used in this context. ...Or at all.

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(no subject) - [info]inalasahl, 2010-08-21 05:00 pm UTC

[info]randomsome1
2010-08-21 07:38 am UTC (link)
Hamilton's writing always leaves me terrified to attempt to write dramatically--or use descriptors.

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-08-21 07:47 am UTC (link)
LKH desperately needs a fourth wall in her head. Though she would be much less entertaining on the internets if she got one.

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(no subject) - [info]diane_duane, 2010-08-21 10:56 pm UTC

[info]elfshadow
2010-08-21 07:54 am UTC (link)
*headdesks*
Why is she allowed to spread her crazy?

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[info]seiberwing
2010-08-21 07:58 am UTC (link)

LKH is as irrelevant as they come, and everyone knows she's crazy.

I just don't see how this is supposed to be professional behavior, authors once they sign that dotted line become exactly that: professionals.
LKH is a nobody who lives in her own fantasy world, and what she wrote is retarded. However, I might add that she named no names and cited no books setup for the flaying.
I hate to defend her but that's her own opinion and she wrote it in a professional manner. However, butt backwards her thinking might be Armintrout is coming across as petty and taking an axe to a mosquito.


As much as I am loathe to praise her I'm pretty sure LKH is not a 'nobody'. She's big.

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(no subject) - [info]kita0610, 2010-08-21 11:13 pm UTC

[info]seca
2010-08-21 08:00 am UTC (link)
Is this her way of holding her story hostage until she gets enough good reviews to continue? Or perhaps lip gloss?

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[info]castellated
2010-08-21 08:43 am UTC (link)
Love the rebuttal.


"Ooh I suffer so for my art. That means I'm better than everyone else! And also you should feel sorry for me." Just shut up, deflate your fucking ego, and write. Nobody's that good.

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[info]jira
2010-08-21 09:51 am UTC (link)
I just vomited in my mouth.

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[info]notjo
2010-08-21 10:07 am UTC (link)
Oh, when did she change her website from having that awful skull-motif that was popular in the late 90s?

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(no subject) - [info]stealth_noodle, 2010-08-21 04:14 pm UTC
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[info]stealth_noodle
2010-08-21 02:05 pm UTC (link)
I can read most other writers and tell you within a few pages which of them “feels” strongly when they write and which do not.

I want to see this in action! LKH's superpower could add a whole new layer of interest to biographies of famous authors. Non-fiction and technical writers could play too; I strongly suspect that the author of a certain set of ceiling fan assembly instructions was rocking an intense emotional connection that precluded coherent sentences.

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(no subject) - [info]castellated, 2010-08-21 03:59 pm UTC
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[info]cheryl_bites
2010-08-21 02:08 pm UTC (link)
>.< I'm not quite following the anti-Armintrout Amazons' argument, though I admit I only made it through the first page.

"LKH is pathetic, menopausal, a joke, crazy and 'retarded'. Therefore it is unprofessional of Armintrout to bash her." Er, if all that stuff was true (or even relevant), wouldn't bashing be the most obvious course of action?

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(no subject) - [info]castellated, 2010-08-21 04:00 pm UTC
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[info]sevendeadlyfun
2010-08-21 02:15 pm UTC (link)
Regardless of what genre we're talking about or who's doing the wanking, all author wanks can be solved by judicious application of Nora Roberts.

So my only question is: What does Nora Roberts think?

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(no subject) - [info]lyrangalia, 2010-08-21 08:23 pm UTC
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[info]themadscientist
2010-08-21 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Old school wanker!! <3 <3 <3

Okay, speaking of vampires and special snowflakes, last time I was at BAM there was a Vampire recipe book which I thought was laughable but it surprisingly had some good things in it. Mainly either had to do with A) garlic or B) wine or C) cherries. I wish I'd bought it actually.

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[info]sandyclaws68
2010-08-21 03:37 pm UTC (link)
So when do we get the LKH vs. SMeyer pay-per-view cage match?

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[info]brennalarose
2010-08-21 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Right, that's it. I say we put up or shut up. Cage Battle Free-For-All, winner gets an all-expenses-paid trip to Pallas. LKH vs Anne Rice vs Chancery Stone vs... What other bugfuck writers can we toss in?

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(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2010-08-21 05:31 pm UTC
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[info]librarianmouse
2010-08-21 05:32 pm UTC (link)
I love Laurell K. Hamilton wank. It's my very favorite kind!

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