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es_ ([info]es_) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-10-07 23:04:00


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Entry tags:community: bad_rpers_suck, community: fanficrants, entitlement, fandom: sailor moon, wankers who will not shut up

Izzanami may have a competitor.
Thanks to [info]wank_report for this. A brief heads up - there is one bit of unfunny in this, but it's only one small bit out of the entire history of her wankiness.

Background: [info]firemikokagome is a devout and entitled Sailor Moon Sapphire & Demando ship fan. According to people in the fandom, Sapphire and Demando are brothers, and it's considered incest.

Firemikokagome was banned from FFR for breaking the rules in 2008. According to an anon, she failed to reply to the mod note informing her for breaking the rules and wound up banned. She started to create multiple sockpuppets to get around the ban, one of which was [info]eurasiangirl (later [info]hikariofdark4). She was banned again each successive time she was discovered, up to the point LJ Abuse warned her to stop creating sockpuppets and suspended all her accounts. This suspension presumably erased all documentation of her activities at this point, so we only have an anon comment to go by.

Cut to 2010, where she creates [info]hikariofdark4 and crossposts a role-play related rant to FFR and bad_rpers_suck, whining why no one wants to play out her pairing with her:

Just because I politely asked you to RP my OTP doesn't mean you have to get all butt-hurt about it and demand I leave and read my own fanfictions, not to mention you then proceed to insult all fanfiction of this pairing and rudely remind me again that the character you're playing would never like the other half of my OTP in "that way."
Then you even have the nerve to tell me that I was playing your character OOC, and that I have no right to play "your character" because you own the character.


Hikariofdark4 is discovered and banned in FFR, while comments in the BRPS post range from your kink is not my kink to you were godmoding an OTP that the other mun didn't want to play, could you blame her for being upset, and finally the mun in question pops up to defend herself.

Hikariofdark4 later discovers ffrantsrants, and makes a noneventful post. She is yet again discovered and presumably banned. She attempts to lie her way through by sending a PM to one of the accusers, claiming that Firemikokagome/Eurasiangirl used to stalk her and she's getting 'scared' about being trolled and having her identity stolen.

She then makes another post to BRPS again, wondering if it's okay to get two of her friends to role play her ship in the RP that she was banned from:

This is more of a question than a rant but whatever....

I was just wondering.... is it considered bad RP etiquette to ask two of your friends to RP your ship in an active community? I mean these two friends of mine both admitted to being a fan of my ship and they've RPed before they just haven't found communities on LJ. And well considering, I got banned from a RP community due to godmodeing over ships I was just wondering if it would be appropriate to ask my friends to play out my ship. I really do want to see the ship played out as I think it would be very interesting, and yes I know this is similar to requesting a fanfic but still.....

So as everyone here is pretty much an expert on bad-RPers, would you consider this inappropriate RP conduct or no?


People discover once again who she is and comments spew forth a less-polite version of your kink STILL is not my kink, just write fanfiction and you're creepy for being this obsessed.

Her reason for being this obsessed?

Actually I was distracted away from them for awhile when I got a boyfriend but then he cheated on me and dumped me so I was obsessing about him and the other girl and started talking to my RL friends about it all the time. Unfortunatly they got sick of it and to distract myself from the subject I dived headlong back into shipping.

The brief part of unfunny: She claims that she's Jewish, has OCD and Asperger's in the post, and we all should be more understanding. Predictably, there is a lot of wank regarding the validity of her diagnoses, and a general consensus that having a disorder is still no excuse for her behaviour, and those who have sympathized with her before are exasperated she's not learning from her mistakes. Unfunny over.

RP mod of the community in question makes a follow up post regarding the reasons why Hikariofdark4 was banned, and the harassment that occurred thereafter.

Hikariofdark4 then discovers [info]ffrantsanon, and makes multiple posts, getting identified and wanked on each time. At some point she may or may not have created ffr_banned to grudgewank (although this may have been Izzy or Rayven, it's hard to tell when everyone is anonymous).

After ffr_banned was deleted after one day, she created fanficrants2, where she is the only member.

Wanking now in real time! Hikariofdark4 posts to ffrantsanon yet again, ranting why an author she admires refuses to read or review her Sapphire/Demando incest fic:

Dear legendary author for my fandom.

First of all I can't believe my good luck that I found you, your fics were part of my inspiration for this pairing. You just write so well the lovely subtext between the two and the genuine love...except for one thing.

When I messaged you on LJ asking you to read and review my epic crossover which features the ship you write about you flatly refused saying you never meant to write it as a ship in your fanfics and it jus got wrongly interpreted. This ship is a squick for you, you say because it's incest.

Okay fine by me, but even though you're not a fan of the couple you're still my idol and so it would be like a badge of honor as a writer to have your in-depth reviews, besides in my version of canon they're not even blood related which is incorporated in my fic. However when I mention this to you, you still say that you can't critique t because you'd be biased and give me bad feedback. Also you refuse to read anything that goes against your version of canon for these two characters.

Excuse me but WHAT THE FUCK 0_0 Seriously, first of all them being blood brothers is not even proven canon it's just implied canon, I mean sure they call each other brothers but they could just be adopted ones they certaintlu look like they are.
Also can you please try to be a little more open minded with fics that derive from your version of canon... Your canon/= everyone else's canon or the actual true canon. I mean I've heard of you canon Nazis but really you're getting ridiculous when you refuse to even critique fics that go against your canon. :/

Also if you're worried about leaving mean biased feedback don't be. The fact that you, one of my worshipped writers is critiquing my fic, even if it's flaming, (in your defenition. is good enough for me. Bey it's better than no review right.

Anyways fellow anons any advice or thoughts on this matter...


As comments follow, people tell her she's being an entitled brat, and Hikariofdark4 lets on that she's harassed the author multiple times to review her fic. She also offers to pay the author for a review.

Will this wanka keep on giving? Stay tuned!

ETA: Alert from wank_report and acediance over here.

FFR_banned is undeleted. There are two posts, one of which is from a [info]kittysock555, and the other lies a post by our very own you know who (now with new name! [info]imnottellingu).

Extrapolating here (omg this report is not neutral?!?! NOWAI): kittysock555 and imnottellingu are the same person, AKA Hikariofdark4. See this post, compare the writing styles and how quickly they become BFFs. Many of the anons may or may not be her socks as well.

Or it could be Izzanami making a comeback, I don't know.

The Hikariofdark4 account shows up itself to claim that Firemikokagome is not her, and she'll totally give you proof!!!

More comments and conspiracy theories on ffr_banned are available at this thread on ffrantsanon.

ETA 2: So we're on their shitlist. This is very serious. It's so serious, in fact, if you're not serious, you should start being really serious right now. Put your :| face on, take those marbles out of your arse.

Additionally, because it bears reminding: Please do not troll the wank.

ETA 3: Theories abound on FW that Hikariofdark4 might not be the person on FFR_banned, and a third person might be at play here. Also, have a newly discovered potential shitlist while you're at it (the list seems to have been created on the 9th of August, so take that link with a grain of salt).



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[info]acediance
2010-10-08 10:26 pm UTC (link)
I have a theory that none of these socks are real people at all, actually - that there's a third person stirring the pot for whatever reason and using Firemikokagome's/Ravyn's wank as a veil for these shenanigans, and hoping that people put two and two together and come up with five. Kittysock555's claim for being banned doesn't make much sense. They sound like impersonators/parodies. I can't really put my finger on why, though.

And haha, yes, you totally have me to blame for the bizarre images in your inbox. That was from this thread, a.k.a. the best wank ever. It was not my idea, I promise! I just happened to be the person with the Photoshop/video skills on ffrantsanon when anonymous went on her anti-Kutsuwamushi tirade. I couldn't resist the urge.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2010-10-08 10:42 pm UTC (link)
I get that feeling too, tbh.

I don't even know, but it was a weird thing to open up in public.

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[info]ickle_snowflake
2010-10-08 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Catching up on that wank and OMG I TIMED MY HOLIDAY WELL. XD

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[info]acediance
2010-10-08 11:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh good - I'm glad I'm not alone in believing a third person is pulling the strings behind all this sock-puppetry. I've been rereading the Msscribe saga and I was afraid I was just being paranoid for no good reason.

And isn't that wank glorious? Terrifying, but glorious. At least you just got off with two bad Photoshop jobs. Poor Kutsu got everything. XD

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2010-10-09 01:01 am UTC (link)
I doubt that the sock on ffr_banned is firemikokagome too. If it is firemikokagome, she's really changed her tune. Previously she wasn't all that hostile; she was just clueless and occasionally passive-aggressive when she begged to be let back in. Those conversations aren't visible anymore so I can't look at them for comparison, but imnotellingu just doesn't seem much like her. I think it's probably someone impersonating her.

I have no idea who the other sock could be, either. We've never banned anyone for being offensive, and I don't think it's one of the handful of people we've banned for repeatedly causing drama. They pretty much admitted in the first post that they weren't telling the truth about why they're banned (by refusing to give the real reason as it would out their identity), but the overwhelming majority of bannings are due to straightforward rule violations.

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[info]sakanagi
2010-10-09 03:08 am UTC (link)
I agree too. I don't think the sock is firemikokagome (unless she took a sudden nose dive). If I had to guess, I'd say it's one or more of the lolicon trolls.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2010-10-09 03:17 am UTC (link)
I don't think it's them, either. They've never been shy about stirring up wank under their own names, and I'd expect more accusations of wrongdoing from them, too. I'd also never expect them to compliment me, even if it's backhanded.

I think that imnotellingu might just be someone who enjoys drama and decided that ffr_banned was too quiet.

One of the anons suggests that kittysock55 is kaygreenwood and it wouldn't surprise me if that's true, but I'm not the mod who banned her and I haven't even read that wank, so I can't compare their styles.

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[info]sakanagi
2010-10-09 03:45 am UTC (link)
Ffr_banned had been deleted before that post, I think. So whoever it is, there are good odds on imnotellingu being whoever mods the comm.

I don't really know who kaygreenwood is, but it seems that FFR has more dedicatedly wanky banned people than I'd thought. Such a large pool to choose from, not even counting people just wanting drama.

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[info]acediance
2010-10-09 07:27 am UTC (link)
I don't think it's Kaygreenwood. I wasn't around for much of that drama, but I do remember that Kaygreenwood was big on ableist slurs. This isn't her style. If she stumbled upon (or created) ffr_banned, you think she'd be using a lot of ableist language over there - even anonymously - and that it would mostly be directed at Theo. The funny thing is, for all their whining about the PC police, these socks don't seem inclined to use any kind of offensive language themselves. You'd think that's the first thing they'd do if they were so angry about being banned for being offensive and they knew that the people who banned them were watching.

I don't think it's Izzanami & co., because this isn't their usual style either. They like taking credit for their drama.

Kittysock/Imnottellingu have to be the same person if only for the fact that they seemed to trust each other right off the bat before knowing who the other one was. That doesn't sound like a great strategy for people who want to stay anonymous. There's no guarantee that the other person wouldn't turn on them, and sharing a secret shitlist with someone whom they don't know over PM would be a silly move that could potentially "out" their identity. Everyone has a separate history with ffr members and everyone's list would be different, so if the list got out, someone with good intuition would probably be able to connect all the dots. It's not the kind of thing you'd want to share with a stranger. (I think this is why we never did see the official "shitlist" - whoever it is was afraid of drawing suspicion to themselves.) Although, perhaps I'm giving them too much credit.

Also, both of them seem to be under the weird impression that the people disagreeing with them in the comments are only doing so because they want to be a mod. I refuse to believe more than one person in the known universe would have that odd type of logic.

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[info]iczer6
2010-10-10 09:28 am UTC (link)
Would it be possible to get that Theo/Beaker image as an icon?

I like it and I don't even like 'Death Note'.

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[info]zebeckras
2010-10-10 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Ah good, I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who didn't think this matched up. Her writing style didn't seem the same but even more so, it was a major shift in tone. I know it's entirely possible that firemikokagome was totally playing dumb in all of her signed posts and all, and this is her "real" feeling, but it just seems extreme. I think the style in the other new comm, the one where she's the only member, seems more like her (and so does the "hey I created this comm" post she put up).

I know there is proof that she plays dumb in a big way, but even then, there's no clear sign of malice... just a lot of her trying to cover her tracks after getting in trouble for being dense.

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