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telegramsam ([info]telegramsam) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-11-04 18:48:00


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Entry tags:actors, don't make me come back there, enormous clusterfuck, i swear i will turn this comm around, still not funny, unfunny business, what is wrong with you people?

Stephen Fry. Flounces.
(For the record, I do rather kind of love Stephen Fry. But really Stephen.)

The illustrious Mr. Stephen Fry, writer, actor, comedian, famous twitter-er, friend to Hugh Lauries everywhere, object of fans on multiple continents, is interviewed by some obscure magazine, and his (admittedly bizarre) interview is re-printed on the internet. Said 'net dogpiles him on being misogynist and stereotyping and generally backward in his views on gender and sex and possibly some kind of baby-eating, puppy-kicking Nazi (I won't bother trying to gather together all of that clusterfuck because it would take years. Plenty on Twitter and a nice selection in the comments on that reprint). I leave it up to you, dear readers, to judge the contents of said interview. *ahem*

Well then.

So, Mr. Fry quits twitter. That's the end of it, right? I mean, certainly he's smart enough to just keep out of the spotlight for a while until this shitstorm blows over and everyone forgets about it and goes back to laughing at their old DVDs of Jeeves & Wooster, right?

Well, not really, since he must come back to explain himself in what may be the most beautiful 4-page flounce I have ever read in my life. Well, you can't accuse him of having a narrow vocabulary, at any rate.

I'm sympathetic (to a point), but really? "None of you understand me! The media misquotes me! I'LL NEVER DO PRINT INTERVIEWS AGAIN!"

Oh dear. At least he does it in an entertaining manner...


ETA: Okay, wasn't aware that Fry has bipolar disorder. Which explains the flouncy a bit. Sorry, kids.

(for the record, I still think it's just a tiny teeny bit funny in a schadenfreude sort of way, but I am admittedly a rather evil person, so YMMV with this one. LOL at your own risk.)




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[info]beejium
2010-11-05 02:21 am UTC (link)
Misogyny is hilarious.

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[info]akiha
2010-11-05 02:42 am UTC (link)
I don’t give print interviews. I never consent to them any more than you, dear reader, would voluntarily consent to being mugged, raped or burgled,

...Wut.

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[info]nightwithmoon
2010-11-05 02:44 am UTC (link)
To be fair, he does acknowledge that his flounces are temporary.

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[info]fiiierce
2010-11-05 02:48 am UTC (link)
Comparing being interviewed to being raped? Really?

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[info]wankismyfandom
2010-11-05 02:49 am UTC (link)
Stephen. Stephen Stephen Stephen.

You are not going to get out of the hole by digging. I've seen you try. Put down the shovel.

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[info]feenix
2010-11-05 02:55 am UTC (link)
Clearly, Mr. Fry has never heard of swinging.

Less clearly: although I agree that he is very talkative, loquacious, diffuse, and run-on; I can't help but think that the subject matter is leading to some unfunny fandom business. I dunno. I get this feeling every time I see anything remotely having to do with sexism, and the flounce is pretty hilarious.

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(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-05 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2010-11-05 04:36 am UTC
Forgive me for wanking. - [info]feenix, 2010-11-06 01:51 am UTC
Re: Forgive me for wanking. - [info]sandglass, 2010-11-06 02:03 am UTC
Re: Forgive me for wanking. - [info]feenix, 2010-11-06 02:16 am UTC
Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east.
[info]dawnswalker
2010-11-05 03:01 am UTC (link)
[info]telegramsam, please, for the love of baby kittens, if people start whining and crying for you to take down this post and send it to unfunnybusiness, tell them to go fuck themselves.

People who are about to tell me to go fuck myself? Go fuck yourselves.

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Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-05 03:04 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]dawnswalker, 2010-11-05 03:08 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]sepiamagpie, 2010-11-05 04:34 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]sorchar, 2010-11-05 05:06 am UTC
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Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]pkbitchgirl, 2010-11-06 01:06 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]randomsome1, 2010-11-11 12:23 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]sandglass, 2010-11-05 04:36 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]galletas, 2010-11-05 05:36 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]tehrin, 2010-11-05 06:29 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2010-11-05 03:46 pm UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]acediance, 2010-11-05 06:53 am UTC
Re: Stephen Fry. Flounces. Meanwhile, the sun rises in the east. - [info]bacon_lover, 2010-11-06 08:48 am UTC

[info]anarchicq
2010-11-05 03:03 am UTC (link)
Again?

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repost, sorry - [info]glossing2, 2010-11-05 03:55 am UTC

[info]willywanka
2010-11-05 03:07 am UTC (link)
4 pages? Is he trying to challenge Aja?

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2010-11-05 03:14 am UTC (link)
Wait, you mean Stephen Fry normally does blog entries that aren't four pages long a-piece?

Color me surprised.

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[info]sgaana
2010-11-05 03:16 am UTC (link)
OH STEPHEN FRY NO.

(I adore him and this just makes me sad. But then it reminds me that little good ever comes of putting someone whose work you greatly admire up on a pedestal.)

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(no subject) - [info]nightwithmoon, 2010-11-05 07:03 am UTC

[info]puipui
2010-11-05 03:24 am UTC (link)
I'm not going to say that this would've been better off in [info]unfunny_fandom because of the sexism; I haven't actually read the interview, so I have no idea what he said, and I can't really judge that from here. I'm sure there's some sexism in the comments -- there always is, frankly -- but I can't be assed to go over and find out, to be honest, because I don't feel like dealing with it tonight.

No, I'm not going to say that this would've been better off in [info]unfunny_fandom because of the sexism; I'm going to say that this would've been better off in [info]unfunny_fandom because I know, as do many of the people here, that the illustrious Mr. Fry has bipolar disorder, which is generally accepted to be the root cause of the majority of his "flounces", not to mention the usual root cause of his occasional bouts of odd interviews and/or behavior in general, and I don't think that his struggles with bipolar disorder are funny. Ever. At all.

So, yes, this would've been better off in [info]unfunny_fandom. That is all.

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[info]keri
2010-11-05 03:25 am UTC (link)
I always liked back in the day when I could pretend that famous people weren't actually real people, and were just creations of movies and the tv and also really skilled magazine artists. Then Internet came around and crushed any chance of pretending that anymore.

Dammit, I don't want to think about 4-page-long flounces when watching Jeeves raise an eyebrow in response to Bertie's behaviour. :(

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HEX VISION. - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-05 02:36 pm UTC
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tetradecimal
2010-11-05 03:47 am UTC (link)
Oh, Stephen Fry, no!

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[info]lauchlen
2010-11-05 04:36 am UTC (link)
I'm really unhappy with how this entire thing seems to be shut down because oh noes Stephen Fry has bipolar and it might be why he acted like he did and flounced.

I haven't read any of the links, but I read the write-up and seriously? We're striking the post because he has bipolar and that might be why he said and did the shit he did?

No.

As a person that has had the most severe form of bipolar disorder for a long time, and been through the many ups, downs and in-betweens that comes with it, to give Stephen a blanket because it might be his bipolar is bull shit. Complete bull shit.

It wasn't his bipolar that spoke for him and I really don't appreciate being painted with the same brush. Nor do I appreciate him getting a 'get out free' card because he has bipolar.

Shit doesn't work like that.

The post is in the wrong comm, yes, the stuff is definitely unfunny. But it shouldn't be struck because Mr. Fry has bipolar and it might be why he did what he did.

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[info]platedlizard
2010-11-05 05:06 am UTC (link)
....

Just after we had an awesome Aja wank tooooo *sadface*

And Yulieana was wanking on her journal about the evil evil Ichigo/Orihime shippers again comparing Orihime to a samuri's wife and IDEK, but it was funny.

And yet. Misogamy wank from a guy who is bipolar.

*super sadface*

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[info]everstar
2010-11-05 05:10 am UTC (link)
Oh, Stephen. I am disappoint. Still love ya, but you are off the Christmas card list.

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[info]blue_penguin
2010-11-05 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Here I was just trying to remember why I had the vague impression that Stephen Fry was a douchebag, and he was so kind as to remind me.

Well, I still don't remember whatever it was he said that made me think that in the first place, but at least his comments in that interview give me a new reason to think so.

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[info]atropos_lee
2010-11-06 01:02 am UTC (link)
Oh, GDI. I saw him in Soho Square not so very long ago, and he looked terrible. Distressed and haggard. So, yes, probably not well right now.

On past form for episodes like this - like the "Cell Mates" debacle, or his comments about Poland (1) - he will attempt to take full responsibilty for his actions when he is able.

"I take this opportunity to apologise now. I said a stupid, thoughtless and fatuous thing. It detracted from and devalued my argument, such as it was, and it outraged and offended a large group of people for no very good reason. I am sorry in all directions, and all the more sorry because it is no one's fault but my own, which always makes it so much worse." Stephen Fry, 2009.

In short, he's in the public eye, he is bi-polar, and he doesn't shirk his responsibility for the stupid stuff he says and does.

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(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2010-11-08 02:04 am UTC

[info]bobafeis
2010-11-06 03:16 am UTC (link)
FFS, f_w.

*goes to have a lie-down*

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[info]zumie_ashlen
2010-11-06 03:57 am UTC (link)
I am so glad I did not know who this guy was, given the disappointment of fans.

Anyway, forgive me for throwing out my opinion to the plains, but: when you blame asshattery behavior on a mental illness, guess what gets tied to the concept? People with mental illness =/= asshats.

I have relatives with mental illness, and I have relatives that are douchebags, sometimes the same ones, sometimes not. People are not their disorders. It is unbelievably condescending to go "oh, well I know you can't help everything you do." Yes, disorders can fuck with you and there are times when you mess up, but a quick apology as soon as you realize you're wrong can work wonders.

This guy is a misogynist. It don't matter that he has bi-polar disorder. This is not the first time he has shown this kind of behavior or mindset, according to a ten second google-search, and I doubt he's going to apologize for it or this.

With that out of the way: Screw you, Stephen Fry.


*mops up*

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(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-06 04:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zumie_ashlen, 2010-11-06 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-06 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2010-11-06 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jood, 2010-11-09 11:36 pm UTC

[info]enrythe8th
2010-11-06 07:20 am UTC (link)
I think I've come to accept that, no matter who they are or how awesome they may seem, every comedian ever has made some kind of stupid, bigoted comment. If there is a comedian who hasn't or won't at some point made me cringe, I think we can deify hir. I just consider it their moments of unfunnyness and try to focus on their good aspects, if they have any.

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(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2010-11-07 05:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]enrythe8th, 2010-11-07 08:35 pm UTC

[info]atropos_lee
2010-11-06 11:39 am UTC (link)
Ok - some of the comments here are making me very angry, and I don't like being angry.

Here is a very simple concept: when people are suffering from episodes of mental illness they say and do things which horrify others - and which horrify them when/if they recover.

People - you, me, or Mother- Freaking Theresa - are not virtuous beings because we have never had a terrible thought or impulse in our lives. We are virtuous because we know that those impulses, the nasty dark stirrings in our brain that we glimpse in our dreams and at moments of extreme fear or anger are terrible, and we are able to chose not to act on them.

And of course Stephen Fry has done this before - he has a horrible mental illness which recurs, unpredictably, and who is always in the public eye. It's not an excuse for his behaviour, and, on recovering he has never asked to be excused.

Here, for the record, is Stephen Fry's apology for a previous foot-in-mouth moment:

"I take this opportunity to apologise now. I said a stupid, thoughtless and fatuous thing. It detracted from and devalued my argument, such as it was, and it outraged and offended a large group of people for no very good reason. I am sorry in all directions, and all the more sorry because it is no one's fault but my own, which always makes it so much worse."
Stephen Fry, 2009.



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(no subject) - [info]dottiness, 2010-11-06 03:58 pm UTC

[info]staroverthebay
2010-11-06 07:03 pm UTC (link)
so... since we agree that the content of this belongs more in [info]unfunny_fandom... why isn't it posted there so we can discuss the content rather than argue whether or not this post should be removed from F_W?

I'm not saying that this post should be removed, but can't the OP post this over there as well, so we can discuss the content in discussion?

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(no subject) - [info]telegramsam, 2010-11-06 08:25 pm UTC

[info]zellieh
2010-11-06 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I find your ETA combine with the way you've covered this post with strikethrough intensely offensive.

If Fry's being a dick, it's not because he has Bi-Polar, it's because he's being a dick. Excusing him from the consequences because he has Bi-POlar is also not kind and understanding -- it's pitying and patronizing as all hell.

Basically with that attitude, you (by which I mean generic-you as in all of you using that argument) are patting 'that poor boy' on the head and telling him not to worry about the grown-ups shouting, because you'll protect his poor little delicate self from all the nastiness (because he can't possibly protect himself).

You (generic you) are saying he didn't know what he was doing, apparently assuming his Bi-Polar was somehow responsible -- which is wrong; he hasn't mentioned anything about being mid-episode when he posted any of this, so you 'defenders' assuming that? Is offensive as hell.

Equality for disabled people does NOT mean assuming we need protection -- unless we ask for help. It means treating people with disabilities like other human beings - letting us be flawed, confronting us on our issues, expecting us to be able to handle debate and adult issues. Treating people with disabilities first and always as PEOPLE, people with actual working brains. (And I include Mr Fry in that, since most people I know with Bi-Polar can manage reasonably well most of the time, with a few minor allowances made for particular symptoms, and they don't want constant special teatment.)

Really, saying 'OMG he has Bi-Polar! We can't call him on anything ever because of his Bi-Polar disorder!' makes about as much sense as saying 'OMG he has a kitten! We can't call him on anything ever because of his kitten!'

(I do apologise if this comment is a bit too ranty and incoherent, but that post really hit a nerve. Just, augh!)

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