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tetradecimal (tetradecimal) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2010-11-05 13:18:00


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Entry tags:fandom: bleach, person: yulieana

Bleach calendar wank
So, there's this Bleach calendar, and it's released by Studio Pierrot, and it features the cast drawn as various figures from Japanese history.

But Bleach fans can't seem to decide whether Orihime is dressed as a generic samurai's wife, or Murasaki Shikibu, author of The Tale of Genji. Likewise, is Rukia a geisha or Atsuhime?

It is very, very important that Bleach fans resolve this, not least because there are about a million manifestos dedicated to whether Ichigo belongs with Orihime or Rukia. WE'VE GOT MONEY RIDING ON THIS, OKAY?

(Note: FWIW, you can see some of the costumes by scrolling through this post.)

The wank report here goes over most of the ensuing furor (and spawns its own wank, which is worth looking at). Basically, IchiHime and IchiRuki fans bicker as to which character is who and can therefore be used as fodder for the shipwars. Some of them even tweet Kubo to demand that he weight in (he is not a history buff and apparently has no idea, as he didn't draw the images). Unfortunately, either comments were deleted or I just fail at wading through 2000+ pages of shipgushing, so here are some snippets:

* Chrysanthemums are prostitute flowers. *pearlclutch*:
"The primary reason why I say she looks like a 'prostitute' was because of the chrysanthemum flowers. Why because these are the flowers that made people give comments like 'she's so feminine!!', 'she's so beautiful!!' 'she's so sensual'. It isn't the clothes that make her everything you say about her.....it's the flowers."

* Yulie-ana's brain leakings:
"Orihime, on the other hand, is dorky, artistic, imaginative, and eccentric. She has crazy ideas, she has weird logic, she has interesting dreams. Overall, costplaying as a writer, and a famous one for that matter, really compliments her personality. So, why oh why must she be a bloody samurai's wife?"

...Wait, was that a thread of logic in there?

* "Even after the gentle, angelic Orihime drew her future self as a laser shooting robot, instead of being pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen, they still have to bring that into the argument under the pretense that just because she didn't say she wants to be a wife, that doesn't mean she wouldn't be happy with that. Technically, it's true, but that would also mean that Orihime can, technically, move to Spain and become a bull fighter, because anything is possible, right?"

Nope, lost it.

* VALIDATION FROM KUBO okay kind of maybe maybe not

* "Oh look, even the painting of AtsuHime totally makes her look like geisha, eh? Bloated Kimono, a letter, hair ornaments and she even painted her lips! Now I wonder what kind of excuse in denial haters have now to insist she's a geisha? Thank you for finding the drawing of Atsu-Hime, Debbie. I cannot stop staring at Rukia picture from a calendar. She looks really gorgeous and elegant. We need more graphics out of this picture and squee how she's a princess."

* ...okay, maybe they're all dressed as characters from NHK dramas.

And finally, a sample tweet from a Kubo fan about the matter:


For the record, I think those tweets above and below are saying things like, "Good morning, sensei!" and "I ate yummy rollcake at Tully's!"




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[info]wankprophet
2010-11-05 07:55 pm UTC (link)
Aaah. Now I understand that FTD Flowers ad campaign last Mother's Day. You know, the one that went "When you can't take time off work to go call your mom a whore to her face, say it with flowers."

And I did. I really did.

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[info]eldritch
2010-11-05 07:57 pm UTC (link)
whether Orihime is dressed as a generic samurai's wife, or Murasaki Shikibu

My brain screeched to a halt right there and I haven't been able to read the rest of the wank. Guys. Guys. There is a bit of a difference between the outfits worn by a warrior's wife (even an incredibly upper-class one), and that of a Heian court lady. Basically, is she wearing juunihitoe or not? THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF TO RESOLVE THAT QUESTION.

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[info]paladin
2010-11-05 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Chrysanthemums are prostitute flowers.

The Japanese would probably be very interested to learn this, especially the man currently represented by the Chrysanthemum Throne.

...being pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...

Because this is all that being a wife is, natch. I suppose that this person doesn't belong to the school of thought that the sets of wives and laser-shooting robots can overlap (hereby known as the Krillin school).

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[info]finchbird
2010-11-05 09:01 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to have to read this manga one of these days.

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[info]harrylovesron
2010-11-05 09:09 pm UTC (link)
I started reading this wank then got distracted by some of the emoticons in the first link. Namely the nose-bleeding... cat thing.

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[info]ekaterinv
2010-11-05 09:29 pm UTC (link)
why oh why must she be a bloody samurai's wife?

Oh. Oh Yulieana. How I wish I could send you back in time to say words like that to a real samurai's wife. Then watch as she sliced your head off.

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[info]kuromitsu
2010-11-05 09:33 pm UTC (link)
One fine day in Bleach HQ, Tokyo...

Mr. Tanaka: Okay, creative team, time to make the designs for the 2011 calendar! It should be special, we have an anniversary coming up, after all.
Mr. Yamada: I think we should dress some characters up in random vaguely historical costumes and give the whole thing a vaguely traditional edge, that's special enough.
Mr. Tanaka: 'Kay, do whatever you want. The fans will be happy as long as it looks pretty.
Mr. Yamada: *randomly dresses up some characters in vaguely historical costumes and adds some vaguely traditional motifs*

Half a year later, on the other side of the Earth...

Fandom: OMG WHAT DEEP SYMBOLISM!! LET'S OVER-ANALYZE IT, JUMP TO FAR-FETCHED CONCLUSIONS, DRAG CHARACTER BASHING AND SHIPPING WAR INTO IT AND BOTHER KUBO TITE ABOUT IT! PWETTY PRINCESS! PWETTY GEISHA! FEMINISM!


Now that I see overall issue, btw, I'm still lol about the chrysanthemums = definitive proof of Atsuhime thing.

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[info]maev_connacht
2010-11-05 10:18 pm UTC (link)
I don't really care what anyone is wearing, but as I had pointed out on someone else's LJ, it seriously looks like Ichigo saw everyone in their fancy outfits just taped some shit to his regular outfit, hoping no one would notice.

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[info]seca
2010-11-05 10:33 pm UTC (link)
I went to see the wank but got stuck at the pretty pictures. What is this wank about again?

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[info]schoenschoen
2010-11-05 11:09 pm UTC (link)
Damn, what took so long!

Best part was the IHers going "Okay, maybe you guys have a point to some of these" at the end and the IRers freaking out because they still didn't agree completely that Orihime should be Murasaki Shikibu, regardless of how wrong the outfit looks.

Oh, and Yulie and Debbie insulting about 700 years worth of historical Japanese ladies for being 'just' samurai wives.

And the wank report itself.

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[info]puipui
2010-11-05 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Chrysanthemums are prostitute flowers.

As I recall, quite a few of those ancient boy-love-type poems of which the samurai were so fond (although not half so fond as their boy-love) used the word for "chrysanthemum" as a euphemism for... er... well, for that part of the boy in which they wished to sheathe their sword, if you get what I'm saying here.

So, really, chrysanthemums aren't prostitute flowers, they're butthole flowers. Get it right, people!

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[info]gabzillaz
2010-11-05 11:46 pm UTC (link)
Poor Kubo.

I really don't understand all this drama over a fucking calendar. Geez, Naruto fans are crazy but not this kind of crazy.

Well, so far.

...being pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen...

This "Real Woman Never wear dresses or like pink or have big boobs" attitude in this (and most fandoms) pisses me off.

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[info]sir_hellsing
2010-11-06 12:23 am UTC (link)
I'm still lost how would proving that Orihime and Rukia were Murasaki, Chiyo or Atsuhime had to do with Ichihime or Ichiruki, because they never married or had an affair with the dude Ichigo is cosplaying, either way?

/strokes chin

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[info]quantumreality
2010-11-06 01:06 am UTC (link)
Oh man what the heeeeelll it's like a WALL of wank. :O

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[info]iczer6
2010-11-06 01:15 am UTC (link)
Who cares?

The images are pretty!

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Just a wife
[info]teaqueenie
2010-11-06 01:17 am UTC (link)
Geez, I don't whether I'm okay being "barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen" or if I'd rather be bisexual and not exist.

Anyone who constantly insults being a wife and mother has never done the job.

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Re: Just a wife - [info]the__ivorytower, 2010-11-06 01:41 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]ladyofviolets, 2010-11-06 01:57 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]uldihaa, 2010-11-06 02:01 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]ladyofviolets, 2010-11-06 02:03 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2010-11-06 10:02 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]sarajayechan, 2010-11-06 04:49 pm UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]a_nation_of_you, 2010-11-06 11:03 pm UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]schoenschoen, 2010-11-06 02:05 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]teaqueenie, 2010-11-06 03:57 am UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]hadisia, 2010-11-07 05:43 pm UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]blue_penguin, 2010-11-06 12:10 pm UTC
Re: Just a wife - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2010-11-09 12:15 am UTC

[info]mcity
2010-11-06 02:10 am UTC (link)
* Chrysanthemums are prostitute flowers. *pearlclutch*:
It's just...so...beautiful! So insane!

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(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2010-11-06 03:18 am UTC

[info]xero_sky
2010-11-06 02:22 am UTC (link)
Geisha's aren't prostitutes, but rather artisans

Yeah, god forbid. I'm sorry, but the geisha tradition involves men buying the services of women for sex and companionship. The fact that these women were often quite talented as singers, dancers, and musicians, or that many of the best gained a reputation for sophistication and wit, doesn't negate the fact that sex was one of the services offered, in one way or another.

If we could maybe get past the idea that sex is such a terrible thing that it invalidates everything else a woman does, maybe we could get past viewing geishas as either artists OR sex workers, but not both.



Oh, dear.

I'll just get a mop, then.

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(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2010-11-06 02:39 am UTC
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[info]vejiicakes
2010-11-06 03:11 am UTC (link)
Feminine, beautiful, sensual = sex worker?

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[info]missdeep
2010-11-06 03:59 am UTC (link)
Look away from Crystal Dawn's essay for just a second, it's no more informative than a tabloid.

Which of course contrasts completely with Yulieana's journal of hard, journalistic fact.

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(no subject) - [info]a_nation_of_you, 2010-11-06 11:32 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2010-11-06 06:06 am UTC (link)
I like how she automatically defaults to geisha being basically only prostitutes.

*Dons art nerd glasses* A chrysanthemum is the royal seal of Japan. Artists, back in zee day, used to need official approval just to depict the motif. There was a little controversy over Murakami's depiction of chrysanthemums because he made them pop and smiley (don't have a link to this but I went to the Murakami show when it was at the MOCA LA (video with "Flower Motango" here) as well as other vids) and the info was on one of the placards). He didn't get much flack from the art community, but some traditionalists were not pleased.

Tite Kubo sounds surprised at the fan theory. I doubt did the art for the calendar himself. For the last time people, it's a shounen manga, not a great romance.

Can we focus on the Byakuya and Renji posters?

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(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2010-11-06 06:21 am UTC
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[info]alexa
2010-11-06 06:48 am UTC (link)
So like, when people write these indignant twitter messages to him... can Kubo Tite even read/understand English? (Serious question, I have no idea.) Or does he just see these messages in Roman characters and think, "Hm... must be another satisfied customer!"

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(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2010-11-06 08:17 am UTC
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[info]tez
2010-11-06 07:07 am UTC (link)
I am going to be so, so sad when this manga finally ends and takes the wanking with it.

...unless, of course, KT ends it in such a way that all potential ships could possibly end up canon depending on your interpretation, at which point I will raise a glass of brandy-laden eggnog to the master and sit back for a lifetime's worth of shipwank.

Also, "Origo"? Have we finally agreed that Ichigo bottoms to everyone?

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2010-11-06 07:20 am UTC
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[info]kelschuu
2010-11-06 09:41 am UTC (link)
Man! They both look so pretty! I tend to be a manga purist but I may have to look for this calendar!

. <- me ------------------- the point --> .

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2010-11-06 01:57 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2010-11-06 04:35 pm UTC (link)
instead of being pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen

It's funny she should say that considering Deebie is her BFF, and Deebie's post-canon fics have Orihime doing nothing BUT popping out babies for Ishida. XD Oh, wait, it's okay if she's barefoot and pregnant as long as the babies are Ishida's or Ulquiorra's. Because their dicks are magic and make her a Strong Womyn but so much as LOOKING at Ichigo makes her ZOMG WEAK AND STUPID.

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(no subject) - [info]uldihaa, 2010-11-06 11:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2010-11-06 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]uldihaa, 2010-11-06 11:42 pm UTC
Chiming in late, as usual - [info]kari_izumi, 2010-11-21 10:52 am UTC


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