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So Sucker Punch came out this weekend and not only did it Fail To Impress, But it also Didn't perform as expected

People give their thoughts around the internet. Most people hated it along with a very vocal few who liked it.

HOWEVER, being a Zack Snyder movie... This shit blows up over at the Spill community.

For those of you who don't know: Spill.com is an internet based film review community (that recently expanded to video games) that gives podcasts and animated film reviews.

So as usual, a review is posted (review in bad taste with rape, skip if you wish )

Usually reviews get a fair amount of comments within their weekly film reviews. But for some reason this weekend SHIT BLOWS UP about this movie giving heated debates on Why this is a bad movie and you are bad for liking it; or you need to calm down and have a good time.

And it all starts here (I posted the link from page 45 since that's where it all started. you may have to go a few pages down until the wanky stuff finally gets started)

If you're not in the mood to read ALL of the mess here is a breakdown of the community:

. Spill members hate Zack Snyder
. Film Causes debate because his name is on it
. Usually in the community everybody likes to automatically agree with the critics despite not having seen said movie for themselves
. Debates are caused on OMG THE FILM INDUSTRY IS COLLAPSING NOW11!!11, stop liking what I don't like, why Zack Snyder is the devil.. the works.
. Comments criticizing the reviewers on WELL WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM THE TRAILER? OMG YOU'RE SO UPTIGHT

Oh and there was also a cute little side wank about the audio podcasts being too long

note:I edited the entry to fix a link and tags and warning suggested by commentor (thanks)

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ridureyu
2011-03-29 02:34 am UTC (link)

I have issues with Sucker Punch in general whenever someone claims that it "empowers" women (A strip club? REALLY?), or try to call it a "ceinamtic masterpiece." It's got some cool set pieces, sure (WWII orcs!), but... I just have issues with the rest of it. I'm not gonna kill you if you like it, but yeah.

Now, the thing I DID notice?

The movie is titled "Sucker Punch." The entire film revolves around "you know that cool stuff you saw in the trailers that made you want to see the movie? Well, it's all imaginary, and they're getting lobotomized! Hahahahaha!"

I think the movie is meant to be a sucker punch on the audience. Zack Snyder intended to troll geek culture, and ohhhhhhh, he succeeded. So for that, I salute Mr. Snyder's accomplishment.

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	emily_goddess 2011-03-29 05:16 am UTC (link)
	This is the best (in fact, the only) explanation of the title I've seen, so I'm gonna go with it. Makes as much sense as anything else about this movie. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ridureyu 2011-03-29 05:24 am UTC (link)
	And if it IS true, then Zack Snyder is a master troll. An absolute master. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	hadesphoenix 2011-03-29 11:31 am UTC (link)
	Your comment about strip clubs made me think of this quotation and the response to it (commentary on sexism and the sex industry), both of which I found food for thought. Also, goddamnit, that was a huge spoiler. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

janegray
2011-03-29 12:45 pm UTC (link)

Disclaimer: I'm not a stripper, I've only talked with a couple of strippers, so I can't personally confirm if what they told me is true or not.

When a woman is a stripper, she is not regarded as a person, she is completely and totally an object.

Except that strippers can, and often do, reject a guy they find obnoxious and have him kicked out of the club. Strippers can, and often do, tell a guy who annoyed them that they don't need his dollar and ditch him.

Strip clubs don’t express sexuality, they express desperation.

I wouldn't say that strip clubs express (female) sexuality, since it's just a job. But plenty of women work as strippers simply because it pays much better than most other jobs, so even if they could work as something else, they prefer not to. That's not desperation. She is making it sound as if all strippers have no choice but to be strippers or starve, that's completely false.

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hadesphoenix
2011-03-31 01:58 am UTC (link)

With the caveat that of course every stripper will have a different experience just because they're individual people, I agree with most everything you say.

I've never spoken with any myself; the only personal anecdote I've heard was from my mother, who said her college roommate paid her way through stripping and didn't seem to think much of it. She'd come back with a couple grand a few times a week and treat my mother to drinks, which doesn't sound like the desperation of a woman at the end of her rope. While I hesitate to make a hard judgment in either direction, I think the 'con' side is too heavily biased in its generalizations.

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theladyfeylene
2011-03-30 09:46 pm UTC (link)

I really wonder about the promotion. The first trailers I saw for it made it pretty clear that it was a fantasy happening in a corrupt mental institution. And it definitely alluded to the fact there was icky/creepy content. Then the later trailers I saw...didn't at all.

I went into the movie aware of all the aspects. I enjoyed the movie. If I hadn't seen those original trailers and was going in based on later trailers and TV slots? I would not have been happy at being taken by surprise.

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ridureyu
2011-03-30 09:55 pm UTC (link)

If you think about it, the original trailers also tried to drop hints that the "fantasy world" was real or somehow influenced the real world, so either they were dimension-hopping or it was some sort of creepy Pan's Labyrinth vibe. I assumed it was just all in their heads (which is what happened in the end), but even the promotion of this movie was full of bait-and-switch.

...and wow, I really typoed "cinematic" in my OP.

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theladyfeylene
2011-03-30 10:19 pm UTC (link)

Huh, maybe I'm just way into things that happen on different levels of consciousness, because I didn't get the impression that the fantasy world was tied into the real world. I took it as the fantasy was a coping mechanism for whatever hell the asylum was. But that's such a common theme in what I read/watch/play that I tend to always assume 'it's just in the mind' when there's any question.

It reminds me of...damn, there was another movie I saw recently (and for me that means within the last 6 months) where the commercials and the movie itself were nothing alike. I seem to have blocked out what it was, but I do remember my girlfriend apologizing to me repeatedly after, and assuring me that the commercials had led her to believe it was something entirely different.

SHORT VERSION: bait and switch in trailers sucks.

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	ridureyu 2011-03-30 10:21 pm UTC (link)
	Bridge to Terabithia? Oh, my poor mother. She can't stand an even remotely unhappy ending, and she loves fantasy movies like the Narnia ones, and she didn't listen when I told her Terabithia might not be a good idea... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

theladyfeylene
2011-03-30 10:40 pm UTC (link)

Don't think it was that one, I read the book when I was young. (And it scarred me, holy crap your poor mom!)

I think it was actually District 9, which is a bit further back than I had thought, but I know I ended up telling people that what you expect from the commercials and what the movie actually was did not sync up. Zombieland was the same, but that one was a happy surprise. It wasn't at all what the commercials made it out to be, it was actually a really good movie with a lot of depth and relevant humor.

I also remember calling foul to the promotional department for Million Dollar Baby. Uplifting story of triumph my ass....

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