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reovu ([info]reovu) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-03-27 17:17:00


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Entry tags:fandom_wank's thoughts on yaoi, movie wank, omg mock people mock, reviews, stop sharing your thoughts

small but interesting
So Sucker Punch came out this weekend and not only did it Fail To Impress, But it also Didn't perform as expected

People give their thoughts around the internet. Most people hated it along with a very vocal few who liked it.

HOWEVER, being a Zack Snyder movie... This shit blows up over at the Spill community.

For those of you who don't know: Spill.com is an internet based film review community (that recently expanded to video games) that gives podcasts and animated film reviews.

So as usual, a review is posted (review in bad taste with rape, skip if you wish )

Usually reviews get a fair amount of comments within their weekly film reviews. But for some reason this weekend SHIT BLOWS UP about this movie giving heated debates on Why this is a bad movie and you are bad for liking it; or you need to calm down and have a good time.

And it all starts here (I posted the link from page 45 since that's where it all started. you may have to go a few pages down until the wanky stuff finally gets started)

If you're not in the mood to read ALL of the mess here is a breakdown of the community:

. Spill members hate Zack Snyder
. Film Causes debate because his name is on it
. Usually in the community everybody likes to automatically agree with the critics despite not having seen said movie for themselves
. Debates are caused on OMG THE FILM INDUSTRY IS COLLAPSING NOW11!!11, stop liking what I don't like, why Zack Snyder is the devil.. the works.
. Comments criticizing the reviewers on WELL WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM THE TRAILER? OMG YOU'RE SO UPTIGHT

Oh and there was also a cute little side wank about the audio podcasts being too long


note:I edited the entry to fix a link and tags and warning suggested by commentor (thanks) 



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[info]imp
2011-03-29 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Goddamn I am conflicted on this movie.

On one hand, I liked how the overarching message was that you could control your own destiny, and the theme of women working together and helping eachother be strong and realize their potential and how they deserved freedom. I thought it was interesting how there was a contrast between the worlds where they were forced to fight as victims and use their attackers' expecations against them and the ones where they were completely powerful and in charge, and didn't have to fear being treated any differently. Even the skimpy costumes were worn confidently, instead of self-consciously like the lingerie in the burlesque world, and they were treated as entirely gender neutral in fights. The cutesy nicknames, which were condescending and icky coming from the people who worked in the burlesque world, sounded affectionate and sisterly when the girls talked to eachother, and (ignoring the fact that they all were probably supposed to be symbolic constructs in Baby's mind) though they weren't all really fleshed out much as characters, I would've liked to know more about them.

But on the other... SO MUCH attempted rape scenes, to the point where it seemed gratuitous. Christ, you could've done it once or twice and we would've got the message, which I don't even think was a necessary message in the FIRST place. I get that things like that happen, and that it's not like we should pretend it never ever does (especially in a corrupt 1950s mental institute), but it was kind of skeevy and left a bad taste in my mouth.

So... I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I guess I liked it (particularly the imaginary fight sequences), and I have a genuine interest in the characters which I guess is my code for "please let there be Sweet Pea/Babydoll femmeslash out there", but it was definitely flawed, and there are DEFINITELY trigger warnings. It's not a happy movie.

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[info]mochibuni
2011-04-05 01:24 am UTC (link)
This is basically how I feel about the movie as well. There's so much I want to say, discuss, and think about with this movie as I feel it hits a lot of cultural and historical topics, but at the same time I understand how offensive it is and can be to others. :\

I actually like the movie a bit more just because it got me thinking. I'm not sure if I find the movie problematic for the movie itself or if I just take issue with everything the movie is trying to point out as being problematic. Like the sexualization of women, trying to make something commercial by sexualizing it, how women are normally treated in action and scifiction/fantasy movies... I kind of feel that this movie is part entertainment part social commentary, but then maybe I'm giving it too much credit. *faceinhands*

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