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a collection : gathering flowers ([info]anthologia) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-05-05 16:34:00


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Entry tags:books/authors, omg mock people mock, person: neil gaiman, political wank, twitter, wanking inside the house

Tax deductables! Pencil necks! Thieves! HIGH SPEED CAR CHASES!
Well, all right, maybe not high speed car chases. So, the background: last year, Neil Gaiman, author of such lovely things as Neverwhere and the Sandman series etc., was contacted to speak at a library in Minnesota for a hefty speaking fee, which was paid for by a fund which (a) stated any leftover money would be lost if not used, and (b) was also not available for books, salaries, or other useful things. Neil Gaiman did so, and subsequently donated the speaking fee to charities.

All's well that ends well, right? Well, except that Matt Dean, the House Majority Leader, decided it was time to let his long-simmering grudge be aired to the world: 'Dean said that Gaiman, "who I hate," was a "pencil-necked little weasel who stole $45,000 from the state of Minnesota."'

Neil is... well, he's not well pleased. Nor is his Twitter.

"Sad & funny. Minnesota Republicans have a "hate" list. Like Nixon did. I'm on it. They also don't like capitalism. http://t.co/FObmLGo"

"It's strange watching a grownup high school bully in power. But the bully vocabulary remains the same. http://t.co/FObmLGo"

"And for those curious how and why I made it onto the hate list, what I wrote at the time on my blog. http://bit.ly/lMxsWQ"

"Any nice, sane Minnesota Republicans reading this, please vote for someone who isn't a bully with a hate list next time."

"You can listen to the Stillwater speech that all the Pencil-neck fuss is about at http://bit.ly/k3lA1B (You need to go down to point 2.)"

He also happened to link to Dean's blog, which proceeded to crash. Whoops.

So you'd think that Dean would realize his mistake and apologize, right? Well... sort of. Why?

His mommy made him do it.

The universe collectively facepalms.


(Bonus funny from the comments, courtesy from someone called Lucas: "Do weasel thieves steal just weasels? Or do they also steal ferrets, otters, and wolverines? In the case of the latter, how do they arrange for transportation?")



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[info]gertie_flirty
2011-05-05 11:34 pm UTC (link)
I heard about this earlier and I was actually agog. When I heard about it, though, they mentioned the money was specifically earmarked for authors to come and speak at libraries.

So . . . Dean is angry Neil Gaiman did what he was supposed to do with money for that specific purpose. OMG, HOW DARE HE~~~

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[info]ridureyu
2011-05-05 11:38 pm UTC (link)
It smells like a setup. Force him to take the money, then complain about it.

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[info]hadesphoenix
2011-05-05 11:56 pm UTC (link)
Not only did he take the money, he gave it to social work and library charities. Don't you know that public services are leeching money and benefits and generally destroying the economy?

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[info]ridureyu
2011-05-05 11:37 pm UTC (link)
I wonder what other situations "my mommy made me do it" can adequately cover for...

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[info]sleepyjean
2011-05-07 01:01 am UTC (link)
If you read the link, you see the "Mommy made him do it" thing was that she's the one who made him apologize for calling Gaiman a name.

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[info]kitt_in_socks
2011-05-05 11:46 pm UTC (link)
This is exactly the kind of responsible leadership we need in politics. Smoeone start a campaign fund for Dean's mom.

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[info]ajatshatru
2011-05-06 04:47 am UTC (link)
This *Dies*

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[info]southerngaelic
2011-05-05 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Apparently, Dean made a joke that thanks to this, he's "...lost all the votes from Star Trek fans."

Really.

http://twitter.com/#!/neilhimself/status/66245510507401216

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[info]visp
2011-05-05 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Gaiman's response was just the perfect amount of classy and snark.

I like "pencil-necked weasel". It has "pencil" in it. Pencils are good things. You can draw or write things with pencils. I think it's what you call someone when you're worried that using a long word like "intellectual" may have too many syllables. It's not something that people who have serious, important things to say call other people.

I do not know whether this man is calling me "a thief" because:

A) I charged more than he's comfortable with for a talk, or
B) People happily pay me a lot of money to come and give talks, or
C) He thinks I gave the talk wearing a stripy sweater to an audience of people who were there at gunpoint and afterwards took their wallets, or
D) He's against the principles of the Free Market, and feels that governments should regulate how much people are paid to talk in public.


But the whole thing is quite stupid. They offered to pay Neil Gaiman in exchange for services and he accepted. How exactly is that stealing? Also, how is it a good idea for a politician to go insulting someone with no political association, but a hugely devoted fanbase? How was that going to end well?

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[info]brennalarose
2011-05-06 12:31 am UTC (link)
His mother made him apologize? Really? Dean, if you weren't raised right the first time, Mama shouldn't need to repeat the process.

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[info]platedlizard
2011-05-06 12:44 am UTC (link)
Minnesota politics this year are just insane.

And yeah, if you don't like how the money is being spent, blame the check-writer, not the guy the check was written to. Sheesh.

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[info]sandglass
2011-05-06 01:14 am UTC (link)
"My mom is staying with us right now because my wife's out of town," Dean said. "She was very angry this morning and always taught me not to be a name caller. And I shouldn't have done it, and I apologize."

I have no idea what to do with any of this. His wife is out of town, so he needs his mom? She was angry, so he apologized but not really?

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[info]beejium
2011-05-06 01:58 am UTC (link)
Completely off-topic, but I had no idea Neil Gaiman lived in the US. *strokes chin pensively*

Also, on the topic of Neil, who else is PSYCHED for his Doctor Who ep next week??

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[info]sephydark
2011-05-06 02:16 am UTC (link)
Calling someone a pencil-necked weasel? Apologising because his mother made him? Is Matt Dean, like, twelve or something?

Because in that case, I think Minnesota needs to elect someone else; I don't think middle schoolers are generally considered qualified to hold political office.

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[info]eleutheria
2011-05-06 02:32 am UTC (link)
In addition to how awful this guy is, I really hate anyone who makes me sympathize with Neil Gaiman.

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[info]sandglass
2011-05-06 03:27 am UTC (link)
Gaiman is recommending Dean's constituents take another look at the statesman they've elected to represent them, but beyond that he says he doesn't have much interest in engaging with Dean:

"That sounds like kicking a dog-shit in the street to punish it," he said yesterday. "You just end up with dog-shit all over you. Why would you do that?"


Oh, SNAP.

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[info]ajatshatru
2011-05-06 04:38 am UTC (link)
Wow Dean sounds a bit like people who're like msscribe.

As in 'mommy made me apologise Boohoo' :D

I am wondering if he will say later that his nanny made him abuse Neil in the first place *SPORFLE*

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2011-05-06 04:44 am UTC (link)
My personal favorite bit is that Dean stated that he thinks Gaiman should do some charity work or donate...

Dean's just a big ball of fail, isn't he?

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[info]tehrin
2011-05-06 06:36 am UTC (link)
Pencil-necked? Dean isn't 1980's bully stereotype, is he?

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[info]ayala_atreides
2011-05-06 07:28 am UTC (link)
LOLOL his mommy made him apologize for being a meanie. Awesome. But I'm really not sure how to parse this part: "My mom is staying with us right now because my wife's out of town," Dean said.

His mother is staying with him... because his wife is out of town? How are the two situations related? I am very confused, F_W.

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[info]miss_eponine
2011-05-06 12:53 pm UTC (link)
When I first heard this story months ago, I was kind of appalled, but mostly because I'm an adult programming librarian, and it just reinforced my belief that our library system will never be able to afford big name authors for programs. =(

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(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-05-06 02:00 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2011-05-06 11:57 pm UTC (link)
OH NEIL! NEIL!
ORANGE PEEL!

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[info]chienne
2011-05-07 02:14 am UTC (link)
"'Dean said that Gaiman, "who I hate," was a "pencil-necked little weasel who stole $45,000 from the state of Minnesota."'

And everyone knows the best way to kill a weasel is make him die of laughter.

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[info]tunxeh
2011-05-07 08:31 am UTC (link)
The metafilter thread on this incident has become much wankier than is usual for mefi. Large amounts of RTFA! and NO U! and "I'm sure I could have done a much better job, personally, of managing a large arts fund that I know nothing about."

To make up for all the unfunny, here are a few highlights that amused me:

And then he apparently set a small boy afloat in some sort of balloon?

Neil's neck in no way resembles a pencil

It's actually not just one, but several parallel universes in which he's a science fiction writer. About twice as many parallel universes that the ones in which he's a street busker.

THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI PAID NEIL ARMSTRONG $45 MILLION DOLLARS TO TALK TO HOWARD DEAN'S MOTHER ABOUT PENCIL-NECKED WEASELS? I'M OUTRAGED.

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[info]stella_polaris
2011-05-09 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I like how you can just tell that if a post involves GNeil in someone, there will be wank in the comments. I was about to skip the comments, and then I went "hey, I bet there'll be in-house wank" and whaddya know!

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