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Maria ([info]ladyofviolets) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-09-04 22:38:00


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A corollary of the last Bleach wank.
Okay, I know. It's Bleach again. But this has been going to HUGE lenghts lately, and it keeps on and on.


Chapter 462 is released, and there's a scene in which Orihime expresses a rather tearful relief that, after quite the mindfuck that recently happened, Ichigo is doing better. Sounds like it's a cute and touching scene, right?

Looks like it's not, since YET AGAIN a certain part of the fandom is up in arms.

* Obviously, the first part to blow is the IchiRuki FC. Much Orihime hate ensues: she's shallow, she's selfish, she's a baby, she's to blame for her own brainwashing via Tsukishima, she will never measure up to Rukia, etc. Normal stuff.

* Debbiechan and Co. don't take it well either, and the Orihime hatred gets so bad that a mod has to stop it. Bonus for Debbie making it ~all about Ishida ~ in one of their comments.

ETA: * Saiyan from the last wank tries to pull similar stuff on the One Manga forums LULZ are had, tho.



This is standard for Bleach fandom, yes. But here is where it gets a little "weird".


* By Thursday, the day after the chapter's release, more than one Orihime hate thread appears at /a/, the Anime board on 4chan. /a/ normally doesn't care a lot about Bleach afaik, so this is a little odd. It gets weirder when you check on them and you notice that many of the comments are actually almost c/p-ed from arguments already seen in Bleachness. (And not to mention, the threaders resort to actually drop screencaps from FLOL, the "famous" IchiHime forum that happens to be friendslocked, and you know that using locked stuff isn't exactly cool.) Soon people catch on that, though, and the wank itself dies soon since other threads are ignored. Note: The link up here offers the html version of only one of these threads.

* The whole stuff is reported to [info]wank_report. It gets wanky, predictably. Of special notice are these two threads: the first has some anons going "LOL ichihimes so wanky" and getting "LOL U" replies, and the second attempts to "prove" that everyone hates Orihime to death... using Naruto Fan forums as serious evidence.

* As a tiny bonus: fail fandom anon has its thoughts on this too.

* The last stage? Tv Tropes seems to be the last "victim" of the "let's hate and bash Orihime" sort-of campaign. Again with wanky wording, screencaps of friendslocked stuff, and bashing of a more or less known IchiHime fan for "not replying to her critics".


PD: As a sort-of bonus... An anon requested some peeks into Naruto fandom, and here is a very telling link. Threads and threads of Sakura Haruno bashing, to scary and maybe even squicky levels of character hate and misogyny. Truly, she's among the few charas that can "claim" to be as hated as Orihime is.

Now we need One Piece wank and we're ready with the Big Three of Shonen Jump. Any good links?

ETA 2: The wank seems to still be going. At least enought to have Debbie pull the offensive card and use out of context Bible quotes in her BA signature to favor IchiRuki over IchiHime. And for an anti-IchiHime gif to bring up quite the reactions when it's posted on tumblr's "Ichihime" tag.

ETA 3: Offensive signature is taken down. Debbie still whines (and possibly lies) about it being Yuri/Lunatic related.


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[info]schoenschoen
2011-09-05 04:13 am UTC (link)
It's kind of unbelievable that they're still going.

I guess they figured out /a/ doesn't care and moved to TV Tropes? Where will they go next?

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[info]ladyofviolets
2011-09-05 04:18 am UTC (link)
I know! Been watching this develop and I still can't believe these people will reach lenghts like trying to make whoever they can "speak" to over the net believe that everyone hates a damn manga character</a>.

Make it two, if we include the Sakura hate in the other links. Holy crap, these people are also full of hate.

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(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-05 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2011-09-05 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-05 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 06:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-05 06:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2011-09-05 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gerorin, 2011-09-06 01:15 pm UTC

[info]bemysty
2011-09-06 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Oh hai, how's it going? Fancy meeting you here.

And I see quite a few options. Tumblr perhaps? If anything, that hits the general amount of intelligence involved in that particular war.

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(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-07 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2011-09-07 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-07 03:09 am UTC

[info]the_sun_is_up
2011-09-05 06:00 am UTC (link)
Truly, she's among the few charas that can "claim" to be as hated as Orihime is.

Yeah, that's been the case ever since Naruto fandom was born. Sakura hate is a well-established tradition. However, last I checked, she's not the most hated character in that fandom — that award would go to Sasuke.

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[info]tez
2011-09-05 06:07 am UTC (link)
Unless you're a SasuNaruSasu fan. In which case the idiot boy can do no wrong. Which is stupid on a lot of levels, but there you go.

Confession: Sasuke is my favorite character out of that whole clusterfuck. But I'd be one giant damn fool to not admit that he's an easily manipulated, entirely mentally unstable moron who can't see what's right in front of his nose most of the time thanks to being on a constant diet of REVENGE OMG.

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 06:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-05 06:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 06:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-05 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2011-09-05 12:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2011-09-06 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2011-09-06 02:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 05:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-06 06:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2011-09-06 02:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2011-09-05 06:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 06:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonoflight, 2011-09-06 10:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2011-09-05 08:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-05 09:33 am UTC

[info]ladyofviolets
2011-09-05 11:55 am UTC (link)
... Don't remind me of the hate that the Itachi apologists rabid fangirls have for Sasuke, too. They act shocked and ENRAGED that Sasuke is a complete fuck up when, you know, a big part of the blame is on Itachi. Who, for them, is a complete ANGEL who ~kept his dignity~ and is the only one who truly loved Sasuke ever.

Yeah, I got nothing. Itachi was a guy in a truly horrible position and was pretty fucked up by that, and it's at least partially thanks to him that Sasuke is the mess we know.

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-06 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-06 06:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2011-09-06 02:49 pm UTC

[info]hadesphoenix
2011-09-06 10:53 am UTC (link)
But didn't Sasuke top some of the "best anime characters" polls in Japan several times?

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-06 11:04 am UTC

[info]tez
2011-09-05 06:13 am UTC (link)
Bonus for Debbie making it ~all about Ishida ~ in one of their comments.


Somewhere, in the miasma of wtf that is Kubo's brain, I envision Ishida going OH MY GOD NO DON'T MAKE IT ALL ABOUT ME and running off to cry into his cape in a corner somewhere.

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2011-09-05 06:22 am UTC (link)
the miasma of wtf that is Kubo's brain

sdfjkfds I am in love with this description.

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(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-05 06:25 am UTC

[info]kuromitsu
2011-09-05 09:22 am UTC (link)
OMG a voice of reason! Until this comment and the one below I didn't even notice that it was the Orihime fanclub. With "friends" like these... (poor Orihime)

I think people are still pissed off about the dome, where Kubo did show us that Orihime was ignoring him--the panel where he's thrown, bleeding, into her view as she's kneeling crying and all those times he was hand-less while there was action going on and she was right there next to him not healing....

...was that the part where she tried to shield him from Ulquiorra and whatnot while trying to healing Ichigo who just happened to be on the brink of death? (or already dead, whatever that means in Bleach.) Stupid Orihime, why didn't you heal Ishida, and left Ichigo to die? (Extra detail: IIRC Ishida even told her not to bother with healing him because he'd already taken some Quincy magic drink or something.)

And she's into Tiger & Bunny now? Suddenly I'm glad that I decided to ignore the fandom for that show...

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[info]kuromitsu
2011-09-05 09:22 am UTC (link)
*trying to heal

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[info]ladyofviolets
2011-09-05 11:59 am UTC (link)
Debbie also conveniently forgets that NOBODY else gave a fuck either. Everyone else was focused on Ichigo, the Shinigami included. But noooooo, Orihime's feelings and thoughts Don't Matter unless they're related to Debbie's husband in the astral plane Ishida, and she's only allowed to think of him and nothing else. Nobody else should matter but Ishida, Her Master and Lord!

And yep, Ishida himself told Orihime that he'd be okay and she should focus on healing Ichigo. Again, she conveniently doesn't mention it.

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(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2011-09-05 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]schoenschoen, 2011-09-07 01:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2011-09-07 11:36 am UTC

[info]schoenschoen
2011-09-05 04:52 pm UTC (link)
Her being into T&B explains the attempted /a/ invasions all too well.

Sadly, no one on /a/ has given a fuck about Bleach since roughly 2005.

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(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 05:37 am UTC

[info]tez
2011-09-06 03:36 am UTC (link)
And she's into Tiger & Bunny now?

OH CHRIST GTFO MY FANDOM DON'T TAINT THIS SHOW FOR ME.

I'mma go hide in the corner with my plushie and twitch now.

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2011-09-06 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2011-09-06 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-07 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]female_fanboy, 2011-09-06 09:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2011-09-06 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2011-09-06 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]female_fanboy, 2011-09-07 03:35 am UTC

[info]bemysty
2011-09-06 02:52 pm UTC (link)
And she's into Tiger & Bunny now?

No. NO! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! DENIED

(that being said, Taibani fandom is actually mostly sane. My part of it anyway. It's refreshing!)

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[info]uldihaa
2011-09-05 06:59 pm UTC (link)
Ichigo doesn't know where his 'bankai' is, let alone how to activate it for Orihime's sake.

This pretty much sums up every shonen hero, doesn't it?

The shonen hero knows it's for bladder relief. And acting weird in the morning. And acting weird at other times, apparently just to embarrass him. But beyond that? Not A Clue.

So the whole "He totally has the hots/in love with [insert name here]" adds a certain something to the whole thing.

Also this: Ichigo only gets it up for violence. Again, pretty much every shonen fighting hero. And villain, for that matter.

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[info]neridne
2011-09-06 12:09 am UTC (link)
Gasp! Hands off my TVTropes!

With all the wanking on Bleach over who ends up with who, I kinda want a third option where Orihime graduates and marries some random dude that has nothing to do with the Bleach plotline. I might've cared about this more when I used to be into Bleach but the story dragged on to the point where I don't even care about the shounen plot line of who's fighting who, much less shipping.

I don't know too much about One Piece wanks but I am more and more happy that Oda-sensei decided to give an early Word of God that everyone's just friends so any shipping is definitely non-canon.

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[info]kuromitsu
2011-09-06 12:31 am UTC (link)
Bleach ship wars are nothing new on TVTropes, though... the Die For Our Ship entry and Orihime's character sheet used to be trolled regularly.

(Sometimes I fantasize about Kubo somehow pulling a Fruits Basket and revealing that Ichigo is actually a girl. And then the fandom implodes.)

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2011-09-06 01:10 am UTC
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[info]themadscientist
2011-09-06 01:30 am UTC (link)
All I know about Bleach is that Shipping The Right Character is Very Important Business.

And that there are reaaaaallly big boobs.

Really big ones.

Is there more to know?

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2011-09-06 02:31 am UTC (link)
Well there are some samurai-type guys who run around waving giant penis-extension swords and have testosterone-flooded duels about whose sword is the most, er, potent. And many of them appear to be allergic to shirts.

Also the male lead, like all Shonen leads, is mentally 10 years old and has yet to discover what his dick is for (beside peeing and having the aforementioned penis contests), which makes all the ship-warring even more pointless.

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(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2011-09-07 12:27 am UTC

[info]gabzillaz
2011-09-06 04:54 am UTC (link)
It was worse than I thought :(

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[info]ladyofviolets
2011-09-07 02:52 pm UTC (link)
And I think it won't get better in a long time. :(

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[info]lilychan
2011-09-06 08:28 am UTC (link)
ugh, at this point, they might as well argue with each other until the end of time.

also, i really liked orihime. makes me feel bad that i couldn't deal with how long bleach is, just to defend her. :( her and ishida and chad.

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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2011-09-06 09:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2011-09-06 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2011-09-06 11:29 pm UTC

[info]batpig
2011-09-06 09:44 pm UTC (link)
Can't help you with the One Piece wank, but oh man, the Shonen Jump heroines bashing will never end, would it? I remember back in the days there were lots of hatred piled against Anzu (Yu-Gi-Oh), Akari (Hikaru no Go), Sakuno (Prince of Tennis), and Misa (Death Note), to name just a few.

Was there ever a SJ title where the prominent heroines don't attract a large and rabid hatedom? I'm hoping Rurouni Kenshin, but considering the shipwars that probably happened, eh...

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2011-09-07 02:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2011-09-08 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2011-09-08 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2011-09-08 01:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2011-09-08 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]quietladybirman, 2011-09-08 11:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2011-09-09 11:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2011-09-10 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2011-09-09 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tinmiss, 2011-09-08 08:38 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2011-09-09 03:22 am UTC (link)
That anti-Ichihime gif still makes me facepalm, but at least Deebie's finally showing her true colors.

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