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beejium ([info]beejium) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-09-07 17:22:00
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Brief Update in the World of Doctor Who Twitter Wank
It appears that the Blogtor Who Twitter scandal, previously dubbed "MacRaegate" with absolutely no legitimacy whatsoever, has ended without fanfare.

Meanwhile, as reported here, the British Science Fiction Association has issued an apology to Stephen Moffat, current showrunner of Doctor Who, for an offensive tweet made by one of its members. The tweet can be read here, with Moffat's response here. (You can see a few more of his responses further up in the time stream.)

Doctor Who and Twitter - it just doesn't mix.

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-09-08 12:17 am UTC (link)
Well, damn, MacRae's tweet appears to have been deleted. Did anyone get caps?

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[info]beejium
2011-09-08 02:33 am UTC (link)
Not sure what you mean. All of the MacRae-related tweets are in this thread: http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1279852.html. They all look like they're still there?

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-09-08 02:19 pm UTC (link)
...Huh, that's different. When I first clicked on this, Twitter told me it had been deleted. Now it's working fine.

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[info]misswitch
2011-09-09 03:30 am UTC (link)
Just so you know it's not just you, I had the same thing happen.

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[info]feenix
2011-09-08 12:25 am UTC (link)
Does everybody get this...?

Depends. Was it modified by "shit-slinging" or "common cat-fighting?"

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[info]indis_earfalas
2011-09-08 12:48 am UTC (link)
Does anyone know the circumstances behind the Moffat thing? He seems to be stuck in the 70's/80's where sexism is concerned, but I would have though "Massive Cunt" was a bit strong. Then again, I don't keep up with the in's and out's of what everyone is up to.

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[info]theninth
2011-09-08 01:18 am UTC (link)
As far as I can tell, that nine_below person just doesn't like him. It didn't seem to be connected to anything or in response to anything. Just a random "this guy is a c*t"

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[info]beejium
2011-09-08 02:30 am UTC (link)
If you read nine_below's following tweets regarding the comment, it seems like it's supposed to have something to do with Moffat's sexism. But it was pretty damn out-of-the-blue.

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[info]indis_earfalas
2011-09-08 03:03 am UTC (link)
Oh, so it is a sexism thing? Right. Because using the word cunt as a pejorative isn't sexist at all. O_o

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[info]feenix
2011-09-08 03:16 am UTC (link)
Of course it isn't! I mean, reducing someone to female genitalia with all the implied baggage when that insult is used is completely enlightened when you're calling someone out on their sexism!

(And I'll be cleaning up. I'm just a bit touchy about this subject after some asshat in PostSecret decided to call a secret-maker a cunt for...wishing she was black. Which, admittedly, was appropriative, but seriously?)

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[info]indis_earfalas
2011-09-08 03:23 am UTC (link)
I just about had to clean up myself, after going back to the twitter and seeing nine_belows tweets that seem to be related.

It seems like nine_below isn't that worried about the sexism, really. It's just that Moffat gets laughs from it.

"Not so much the sexism itself but the delight he takes in his LOLSEXISM schtick."

"Sure, I know it is a divisive word."





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[info]sandglass
2011-09-08 04:37 am UTC (link)
I would be inclined to call nine_belows cunts for that, if I didn't find it vile.

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[info]blue_penguin
2011-09-08 04:04 am UTC (link)
Attempting to call someone out on their sexism by calling them a cunt? Yes, this makes perfect sense.

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[info]blue_penguin
2011-09-08 04:05 am UTC (link)
... aaand I left this page open too long without refreshing, don't mind me.

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[info]ridureyu
2011-09-08 06:10 am UTC (link)
Supposedly, "cunt" isn't very sexist in the UK, but even then, I wouldn't call someone that.

Anyway, when someone throws an insult like that at you, you need to respond with something similar. Example:

"Oh, yeah? Well, you're a urethra!"

"Stop being such a labia majoris."

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[info]ridureyu
2011-09-08 06:10 am UTC (link)
And then later extend it to other body parts.

"You stupid spleen!"

"Shut up! Stop being such a tonsil!"

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-09-08 06:19 am UTC (link)
Now I can hardly wait to start doing this.

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[info]ridureyu
2011-09-08 06:31 am UTC (link)
Even though I just tossed this together in MUGEN, I'm fairly certain it's actually happened in the comics:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/Ridureyu/mugen/DUODENUM.png

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chironstar
2011-09-16 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear God. LULZ LULZ LULZ ♥

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[info]teaqueenie
2011-09-08 01:31 pm UTC (link)
I toss around the perjorative dick (and variations) all the time. Now I'm wondering if I'm sexist for not giving equal time and opportunity to cunt.

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[info]anthologia
2011-09-08 04:02 pm UTC (link)
...Uh-huh.

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[info]ashes
2011-09-08 03:02 am UTC (link)
Man, nine_below clearly has balls made of steel. I prefer to pretend famous people don't exist on Twitter; I get all anxious when I say something to our local morning DJ on Twitter.

Also: a lot of people retweeted that. Do we hate Steven Moffat? I lose track.

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[info]jujubee
2011-09-08 04:42 am UTC (link)
There's a segment of Who fans who think Moffat ruined Who, so they might hate him. As we all know, subjectively ruining your favorite show is certainly grounds for calling someone a c***.

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[info]eevee
2011-09-08 11:32 am UTC (link)
And some of us think is a good writer/showrunner, but prefer to plug our ears whenever he talks. (Seriously, I love Eleven and the Ponds and I thought the 5th season was amazing, but if I never have to read his Twitter/an interview with him again it'll still be too soon.)

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[info]nekoneko
2011-09-09 05:03 am UTC (link)
I thought Davies ruined Who and Moffat was going to save it or something.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2011-09-09 05:28 am UTC (link)
Basic rule of thumb is that whoever is in charge of Who at any given moment is guilty of ruining it for someone.

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[info]kosaginolegion
2011-09-09 12:30 pm UTC (link)
And, as a corollary, fixing it for others. Never could get into it until Smith's run.

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[info]trialia
2011-09-15 01:36 am UTC (link)
Likewise. I could never warm up to the show 'til I ran into River Song.

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[info]khym_chanur
2011-09-08 03:15 am UTC (link)
Is it standard practice for an association/organization to apologize for the actions of one of its members? I could understand apologizing for an officer/employee, but apologizing for a member seems odd to me.

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[info]feenix
2011-09-08 03:19 am UTC (link)
Although the tweet came from a personal account, the BSFA committee felt the individual concerned was seen as closely linked to the organisation. They wanted to make clear they did not endorse either the choice of wording or the sentiments expressed in the offending tweet.

My take on it is that they did so because they thought that @nine_below's actions reflected on BSFA, given his/her status within the organization (from the explanation).

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-09-08 04:07 am UTC (link)
Not in this fine establishment. Snacky's on her own when she fucks up.

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[info]aewgliriel
2011-09-08 02:01 pm UTC (link)
Hee. You said "time stream" in a Doctor Who post.

. . . Yes, I've been up all night. Stupid things are now hilarious to me.

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[info]beejium
2011-09-08 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Hahahaha.

Next time I post a wank, I'm going to try and fit in as many timey wimey words as possible.

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