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Loopywafflehead ([info]loopywafflehead) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-10-08 20:58:00


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Entry tags:fandom: glee, reviews

So here's what you missed on kurt_blaine...
Many thanks to the anon on wank_report for this one; I've used some of your wording in this post. (Note: there are spoilers for an upcoming episode of Glee in the links.)

Pyroclastic, one of the wankier BNF's of the Glee fandom and a former mod of the kurt_blaine community on lj, posts a fic to said community. The drama starts in the first thread when she pretends not to know why a mod has asked her to place the spoilers in her author notes behind a cut:

boysinperil: …Just remove all the references to [the spoiler], or delete the whole thing and just post it on tumblr, because I'm tired of your being thick about this. You helped WRITE the spoiler rules, you know them.

Then windrider1967 leaves a review:

Beautiful, if a bit too polished. Still wonderfully done and sweet and hot at the same time

Pyroclastic does not like this review. She complains on her Tumblr. Even though she blacks out windrider’s name, it’s easy enough for everyone to figure out who wrote the comment.

Naderegen points out that it's mostly a compliment and the concrit isn't slamming the fic, but pyroclastic is not appeased.

Canniblaine tells windrider that pyroclastic and her minions are mocking her. Said minions then make an appearance.

Pyroclastic complains to the mods, who agree to screen the more problematic comments while also letting her know she’s pretty much working their last nerve:

Rebootuniverse: ...You know what, you're not stupid, you knew exactly what you did when you made that post, and you knew exactly what would follow. Pretend to be the innocent one all you want, but you just can't take any actual negative commentary about what you write. There are a million other ways you could have gone about asking the reviewer what they meant before making that post, even if you couldn't open the community. A dozen other choices you could have made other than one that was bordering on insulting to the reviewer and dismissive that there might be something other than a positive opinion to your fic.

Bottom line is, you react to things as if you're better than every other person on the comm, and if half of the things you say on tumblr were said here we would have had to ban you by now. But we don't, because we don't ban people for things they say and do on other communities.


Rebootuniverse comments on the entire situation on her Tumblr and receives anonymous attacks in response. (For some reason, jf won't let me create a link for this one: http://rebootuniverse.tumblr.com/post/11119180193/fucking-delete-canniblaine-and-ban-them-you-biased). There are also messages of support and people wanting to know why pyroclastic hasn't been banned yet; everything can be found on her Twitter.


Two other critical reviews are left on the fic but haven't resulted in the same kind of response (as far as I can tell). And to round it all off, the glee_anon threads on the situation are here and here.

ETA: It gets wankier: http://gleewank.tumblr.com/post/10332827277/the-epic-saga-of-p-and-her-pa-attitude



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[info]littlemousling
2011-10-09 05:35 pm UTC (link)
My beta, devonwood is currently getting her English degree and is taking editing courses for her future career as an editor. If you have any issues with her beta work, I invite you to discuss it with her. The ask box of her Tumblr is open to anonymous questions if you don't have an account. I'd like to know exactly what part of this fic needs beta work, since Megan is the best beta I've worked with.

Wow. Wow. Who DOES that?

"Any remaining errors are mine--ha! Just kidding! All errors are my beta's fault! After all, she's an English major, so anything she didn't force me to change is not my problem! Also, I'm not going to credit her in the headers, because she doesn't matter!"

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-10-09 05:57 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that is really out of line. One time someone corrected a small continuity error in a fic I wrote, and the beta showed up and apologized to me for missing it, and I just said something like "Hey, you did a good job, and I'm the one who missed it in the first place!" Not "Hey everybody, blame it on Marge here!"



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[info]honorh
2011-10-09 08:05 pm UTC (link)
If I were that person's beta, she'd be looking for another beta.

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[info]littlemousling
2011-10-09 08:12 pm UTC (link)
I gather she's known for running through betas like water, and man, no fucking wonder.

This one also caught my eye: "Things my betas did not catch: Apparently Professor Longbottom’s wife is going to be carrying a baby for eleven months."

Try "things I accidentally wrote and have just now spotted." JFC.

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[info]anthologia
2011-10-09 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Woooooow, those people are assholes.

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[info]honorh
2011-10-09 11:37 pm UTC (link)
What a passive-aggressive piece of work. It won't be long before no one will beta for her, I'd imagine, BNF or no.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-10 12:32 am UTC (link)
Wtf?

Writing is rewriting. And that is not an editor's job. Do your own work and take your own lumps. I wonder how bad the drafts she sends to her betas are, considering how much she expects of them.

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[info]bacon_lover
2011-10-11 04:19 am UTC (link)
Other things my beta didn't catch: (1) I'll throw them under the bus at the first chance I get.
(2) I'm the kind of asshole you can't fake, and people wish they could write passive-agressive the way I live it.

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[info]cinnamonical
2011-10-09 11:20 pm UTC (link)
What a backhanded compliment. "My beta is so good that I'm going to put all the blame for your problems with my story on her!" How did Pyroclastic even think this would be okay? Betas are there as a second pair of eyes to help you catch things that you might not notice because you're so used to what you've written. They are not the the last line of defense between you and a horde of (supposedly) unappreciative reviewers.

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[info]phosfate
2011-10-10 02:36 am UTC (link)
On behalf of everyone who has ever betaed a story: Fuck you, Pyroclastic. Fuck you in the face with a waffle iron.

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[info]quantumreality
2011-10-10 05:45 pm UTC (link)
That is a brilliant swear phrase! May I use it in future when I need such a spot-on expression? :D

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[info]phosfate
2011-10-11 12:11 am UTC (link)
Of poodlefuckin' course you may! It'd be an honor, cockmilk!

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2011-10-10 09:43 pm UTC (link)
Fuck you in the face with a waffle iron.

I think I love you.

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[info]phosfate
2011-10-11 12:12 am UTC (link)
I would curtsy, but when I try I fall over.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-10-11 02:43 am UTC (link)
I love you, beta of mine. Even if you leave so many errors in my fic, you dick.

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[info]phosfate
2011-10-11 05:25 am UTC (link)
That's only because beta-ing your stuff is like nailing Jell-O to a wall, my little bacon strip.

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[info]quantumreality
2011-10-10 05:46 pm UTC (link)
You know, don't a lot of authors, published and non-, usually thank loads of people but point out that mistakes in their stories are ultimately the author's responsibility?

"All mistakes are mine" is a common phrase I've seen from authors. (-_-)

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[info]ladylauren
2011-10-13 03:37 pm UTC (link)
I nick my disclaimer from Stephen King, which is more or less 'for what's right thank them [betas]; for what's wrong, blame me'.

The mistakes are only ever there because I make them in the first place and I do not expect my betas to be infallible.

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[info]wook77
2011-10-10 09:36 pm UTC (link)
I once had someone, in a major holiday fest, lay the blame on me for not catching that The Author had the wrong brother as dead and she wanked all over the piece about how awful of a beta I was. She apologized on my behalf for not spotting it and she'd be sure to tell me all about it later. She never did credit me for the beta job on any of her crosspostings once it was unanon.

Two weeks or so after that, she asked me to beta another fic. Um, yeah, no.

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[info]littlemousling
2011-10-10 09:46 pm UTC (link)
Wowwwww, that is some serious assholery right there.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2011-10-11 02:44 am UTC (link)
Making friends and influencing people: Fic edition.

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