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miss_padfoot ([info]miss_padfoot) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-11-03 01:49:00


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Entry tags:reviews, videogames

AV Club gives C grade to Uncharted 3; fanboys go ballistic
Scott Jones of the AV Club gave a mixed review of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, a hotly anticipated game for PlayStation 3. Jones praised the storyline and dialogue but criticized the gameplay mechanics:

[T]he story still zips and characters are still conflicted, but targeting is as twitchy as ever, bad guys still require three or four shotgun blasts to the head before they’re deterred, and the game’s star, Nathan Drake, still has no clue whatsoever about how to crouch. Two years after Thieves, Uncharted’s gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they’re borderline archaic.
His final grade for the game was a C.

In the comments section, things started out innocuously enough. There was a minor kerfuffle over whether the game's protagonist was a serial killer. A couple of people speculated about what would happen when the review showed up on Metacritic. "Frankly," said one, "if I had the power to fuck with metacritic like this, I don't think I'd be able to resist giving an F to every single triple-A title. It's like having nuclear launch codes for internet fanboys."

And the internet fanboys did not disappoint. You see, elsewhere on the internet, game critics were creaming themselves about how wonderful Uncharted 3 was. Every single other review on Metacritic was positive; Jones's review was the only mixed one. When the Uncharted fanboys saw the AV Club review, they realized that one bad review was not a threat to their beloved game franchise, and moved on with their lives.

--

Just kidding. They registered for the AV Club so they could comment about how Scott Jones is WRONG WRONG WRONG. The sarcastic hipster types who populate the AV Club comments section were only too happy to bait them.

Some highlights:
Here's the best part: the angry comments were posted on October 30 and 31, but Uncharted 3 wasn't released until November 1 (November 2 in Europe). That's right: these valiant fanboys were defending the besmirched honor of a game they'd never played. Except for this guy. Maybe.

EDIT: I just realized that my links to "highlights" aren't working. That's just the AV Club comments system being difficult -- I can't link to anything past page 1. I've put in some page numbers to help out a little.

Also: Eurogamer, which published an 8/10 review of Uncharted 3, has also been overrun with angry fanboys lately. 8/10!


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[info]sol
2011-11-03 09:04 am UTC (link)
But don't you get it? He's interrogating the gameplay from the wrong perspective! I mean, it can't possibly be the game's fault that its aiming system made it that way, no way!

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[info]sorchar
2011-11-03 09:04 am UTC (link)
How would a second-year med student actually have time to game???

Also, "Benny Cumbermuffins" wins my vote for best username.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2011-11-03 11:20 am UTC (link)
I'm a fourth year medical student and I find the time. (Mostly by doing assignments at the last minute and not studying as much as I should. :P)

Med school is really fucking intense, but it doesn't take up all your free time.

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[info]iczer6
2011-11-03 09:51 am UTC (link)
Yay! More Uncharted!

Something else was going on?

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[info]amaltheia
2011-11-03 11:20 am UTC (link)
I know!

I've been so excited for this release, and I don't even play it. My husband does and I watch him.

(I'm crap at these sort of games, but I adore the Nate & Elena snark)

PS Joe Flanigan to play Nate in the movie.

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[info]purpleink
2011-11-03 11:16 am UTC (link)
Ah, but you see, this wasn't the only review fanboys whined about. Because one site gave the game a 8 out of ten, and that was not good enough:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-21-uncharted-3-drakes-deception-review

Apparently, if you give the game less than a 9, you are a hipster troll. Or something along those lines, I'm not sure.

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[info]littleshebear
2011-11-03 01:48 pm UTC (link)
You beat me to it, I was just going to link that.

This reminds me of the Gears of War vs. Killzone 2 wanks that were going back in the day. I can't remember which site it was but I remember massive flame wars happening because Gears got one tenth of a point more in the scoring than Killzone.

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2011-11-06 02:15 am UTC

[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-11-03 05:47 pm UTC (link)
I thought this was that wank.
Well, I suppose they're two heads of the same hydra.

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[info]miss_padfoot
2011-11-03 06:03 pm UTC (link)
I added that to the post. The AV Club comments are funnier, but Eurogamer seems to be an equally big target for fanboy rage over this game, so I suppose I shouldn't leave it out!

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[info]j_crew_guy
2011-11-04 02:26 am UTC (link)
My favorite part of the Eurogamer review "scandal" is that the site allowed the game's lead designer to respond on the site to the review.

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[info]meagenimage
2011-11-03 11:31 am UTC (link)
The major games review sites seem unable to score any game below 7/10 unless it's catastrophically bad (we're talking the gaming equivalent of Manos: The Hands of Fate). But then, those sites are often being paid for advertising the same games they're reviewing, leading to some obvious conflicts of interest.

There wa a case in 2007 where a fairly critical reviewer was fired from Gamespot soon after giving a 6/10 to Kane and Lynch, which Gamespot was also heavily advertising.

And this leads to a situation where fans of a highly-anticipated game can be driven to rage by a review that scores 9.3/10. (Those comments may be a bit tough to navigate, but just start from the last page to go in chronological order and find plenty of wank, preserved in a prisine state since 2008.)

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[info]kedase_derragar
2011-11-03 12:11 pm UTC (link)
And that's nothing compared to the epic backlash against a Gamestop reviewer who gave the Wii version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess an 8.8. To this day, if you Google "8.8", it's the second result - just above one of the largest earthquakes in recorded history, and just below the TV Tropes page named after the fiasco. It's hard to find any evidence of it on Gamespot anymore, but there are plenty of write-ups about it around the internet.

(It's worth noting that it wasn't just the 8.8 that caused the ruckus - the fact that the same reviewer gave the GameCube version an 8.9 a few weeks later while simultaneously saying that he recommended the Wii version certainly didn't help matters.)

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(no subject) - [info]sol, 2011-11-03 12:26 pm UTC
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[info]lady7jane
2011-11-03 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I also seem to remember some hassle about how game companies only give out review copies on the promise that reviewers don't give low scores, so on launch day it's impossible for a game to have anything but a good score.

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[info]cosmosin_strife
2011-11-03 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Lol look at Dynasty Warriors, my favourite series. Play UK (the official Playstation magazine) gave DW7 only 32%, while they constantly give every FPS a mimimum of 70% at worst. IGN likewise love to bash the series and always give every 'Warriors' low scores. While yeah, the games aren't perfect but they're definitely not as bad as the reviewers think.

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(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-11-09 06:02 pm UTC
totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you - [info]deliciouschaos, 2011-11-03 08:31 pm UTC
Re: totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you - [info]sol, 2011-11-04 12:17 am UTC
Re: totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you - [info]deliciouschaos, 2011-11-04 04:06 pm UTC
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[info]chienne
2011-11-03 04:42 pm UTC (link)
"The major games review sites seem unable to score any game below 7/10 unless it's catastrophically bad (we're talking the gaming equivalent of Manos: The Hands of Fate)."

Oh, you mean like Superman 64?

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[info]sparkthatbled
2011-11-09 02:27 am UTC (link)
I'd just like to mention Destructoid's Jim Sterling here. He seems to be getting a reputation for writing reviews that cause him to get flamed by fanboys, regardless of his actual opinion.

And then there was his review of Sonic Colours, which he gave a 4.5. The lowest rating on the game's Metacritic page. The only review marked negative.

He's also done this before, with Assassin's Creed 2 and Final Fantasy XIII.

And now he's being flamed because he gave Modern Warfare 3 a 9.5. Possibly by Battlefield 3 fanboys upset by his 7.5 score for that game, I don't know.

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[info]kedase_derragar
2011-11-03 11:50 am UTC (link)
Oh man, fanboy rage is the best rage.

I have to admit to not knowing that much about these games, other than that Drake is often used as a prime example of the "grizzled brown-haired witty guy" main character trope that's been going around for a while, and that I remember having to change the language to Spanish halfway through the demo of the first game because the enemies' accents were so stereotypical and Drake's English voice was starting to tick me off (I can only take so much Nolan North at a time).

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[info]braisinhussy
2011-11-05 08:42 pm UTC (link)
(I can only take so much Nolan North at a time)

That's gotta be hard. Isn't he in every game these days?

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[info]lil_miss_stfu
2011-11-03 03:27 pm UTC (link)
Welp, if the mechanics haven't changed at all, Ican't wait for Yahtzee to tear it a new one.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2011-11-03 03:55 pm UTC (link)
And now this third paragraph break makes it look like there's one more case, and you're hoping it'll be the one that means you wouldn't be an idiot. Oh no! It's another trick! There's no such case!

LMAO.

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(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2011-11-03 04:29 pm UTC

[info]ninwhore
2011-11-03 06:21 pm UTC (link)
Numeric ratings for games are bullshit because each one is just the opinion of the reviewer. I don't get why people put so much stock into them other than their dumb fanboy pride.

At least it makes funny.

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[info]kernelm
2011-11-03 10:18 pm UTC (link)
It should be said that one of the main sources of fanboy rage in cases like this is that Uncharted is a PS3 exclusive. Platform partisans take reviews of platform exclusives way more seriously than multiplat games. It's sort of understandable why they feel that way but also hilariously wanky. I remember a recent thread on NeoGAF complaining that Giant Bomb was SO OBVIOUSLY biased against Sony because they only reviewed and Quick Looked Resistance 3 but didn't talk about it on their podcast.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2011-11-03 11:33 pm UTC
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[info]tangentialone
2011-11-03 10:46 pm UTC (link)
EDIT: I just realized that my links to "highlights" aren't working. That's just the AV Club comments system being difficult -- I can't link to anything past page 1. I've put in some page numbers to help out a little.

I was just going to comment on that! (Thanks for the page numbers!)

I guess we have to cut them a little slack, though. I mean, this "comment thread" technology is pretty new and obscure, so it's understandable that some websites don't have the hang of it yet.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-11-04 11:06 am UTC (link)
I blame the comments at the AV club for my failure to reach my wordcount for NaNo today.

Someone called the reviewer "nefarious"!

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(no subject) - [info]rowanberries, 2011-11-04 01:15 pm UTC

[info]mcity
2011-11-06 02:13 am UTC (link)
X-Play got flamed for, get this, giving a 5/5 score to Killzone 2. Fanboys said they "sounded reluctant". (NSFW)

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