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miss_padfoot ([info]miss_padfoot) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-11-03 01:49:00


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Entry tags:reviews, videogames

AV Club gives C grade to Uncharted 3; fanboys go ballistic
Scott Jones of the AV Club gave a mixed review of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, a hotly anticipated game for PlayStation 3. Jones praised the storyline and dialogue but criticized the gameplay mechanics:

[T]he story still zips and characters are still conflicted, but targeting is as twitchy as ever, bad guys still require three or four shotgun blasts to the head before they’re deterred, and the game’s star, Nathan Drake, still has no clue whatsoever about how to crouch. Two years after Thieves, Uncharted’s gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they’re borderline archaic.
His final grade for the game was a C.

In the comments section, things started out innocuously enough. There was a minor kerfuffle over whether the game's protagonist was a serial killer. A couple of people speculated about what would happen when the review showed up on Metacritic. "Frankly," said one, "if I had the power to fuck with metacritic like this, I don't think I'd be able to resist giving an F to every single triple-A title. It's like having nuclear launch codes for internet fanboys."

And the internet fanboys did not disappoint. You see, elsewhere on the internet, game critics were creaming themselves about how wonderful Uncharted 3 was. Every single other review on Metacritic was positive; Jones's review was the only mixed one. When the Uncharted fanboys saw the AV Club review, they realized that one bad review was not a threat to their beloved game franchise, and moved on with their lives.

--

Just kidding. They registered for the AV Club so they could comment about how Scott Jones is WRONG WRONG WRONG. The sarcastic hipster types who populate the AV Club comments section were only too happy to bait them.

Some highlights:
Here's the best part: the angry comments were posted on October 30 and 31, but Uncharted 3 wasn't released until November 1 (November 2 in Europe). That's right: these valiant fanboys were defending the besmirched honor of a game they'd never played. Except for this guy. Maybe.

EDIT: I just realized that my links to "highlights" aren't working. That's just the AV Club comments system being difficult -- I can't link to anything past page 1. I've put in some page numbers to help out a little.

Also: Eurogamer, which published an 8/10 review of Uncharted 3, has also been overrun with angry fanboys lately. 8/10!


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[info]meagenimage
2011-11-03 11:31 am UTC (link)
The major games review sites seem unable to score any game below 7/10 unless it's catastrophically bad (we're talking the gaming equivalent of Manos: The Hands of Fate). But then, those sites are often being paid for advertising the same games they're reviewing, leading to some obvious conflicts of interest.

There wa a case in 2007 where a fairly critical reviewer was fired from Gamespot soon after giving a 6/10 to Kane and Lynch, which Gamespot was also heavily advertising.

And this leads to a situation where fans of a highly-anticipated game can be driven to rage by a review that scores 9.3/10. (Those comments may be a bit tough to navigate, but just start from the last page to go in chronological order and find plenty of wank, preserved in a prisine state since 2008.)

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[info]kedase_derragar
2011-11-03 12:11 pm UTC (link)
And that's nothing compared to the epic backlash against a Gamestop reviewer who gave the Wii version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess an 8.8. To this day, if you Google "8.8", it's the second result - just above one of the largest earthquakes in recorded history, and just below the TV Tropes page named after the fiasco. It's hard to find any evidence of it on Gamespot anymore, but there are plenty of write-ups about it around the internet.

(It's worth noting that it wasn't just the 8.8 that caused the ruckus - the fact that the same reviewer gave the GameCube version an 8.9 a few weeks later while simultaneously saying that he recommended the Wii version certainly didn't help matters.)

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[info]sol
2011-11-03 12:26 pm UTC (link)
I believe that you're talking about the same person; Jeff Gerstmann (the person in the first link up there) was the one who gave it an 8.8, which caused fanboy insanity. The fact that he got fired for the Kane and Lynch review is very ironic.

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[info]kernelm
2011-11-03 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Heh, Gerstmann's been at the center of quite a few review controversies, especially in his Gamespot days. He currently runs Giant Bomb (along with a whole bunch of former Gamespot guys who left shortly after he was fired) which hasn't been too controversial as far as I know in terms of reviews. The main thing I've seen complaints about is that they review on a 5 star scale, no fractional stars.

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[info]lady7jane
2011-11-03 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I also seem to remember some hassle about how game companies only give out review copies on the promise that reviewers don't give low scores, so on launch day it's impossible for a game to have anything but a good score.

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[info]cosmosin_strife
2011-11-03 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Lol look at Dynasty Warriors, my favourite series. Play UK (the official Playstation magazine) gave DW7 only 32%, while they constantly give every FPS a mimimum of 70% at worst. IGN likewise love to bash the series and always give every 'Warriors' low scores. While yeah, the games aren't perfect but they're definitely not as bad as the reviewers think.

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[info]tofuknight
2011-11-03 07:35 pm UTC (link)
Just looked at the 8.8 TVTropes page and saw an example where FE:Radiant Dawn was panned cuz it was too hard. I thought that was the point of the FE games? (I admit I haven't played RD, but only bcuz all my Wii time is currently spent on Donkey Kong...)

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[info]iris
2011-11-03 07:57 pm UTC (link)
RD also got knocked in one review for failing to include Mii support.

\o_O/

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[info]deliciouschaos
2011-11-03 08:33 pm UTC (link)
How...I don't...that's a whole new kind of special.

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(no subject) - [info]iris, 2011-11-03 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2011-11-03 09:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-11-09 06:02 pm UTC
totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you
[info]deliciouschaos
2011-11-03 08:31 pm UTC (link)
FE:Radiant Dawn was panned cuz it was too hard

At first I laughed and then I realized they were serious.

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Re: totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you
[info]sol
2011-11-04 12:17 am UTC (link)
It's sorta sad that they were playing on Normal mode (or Easy mode, which would make the whole thing funnier/sadder), which is fairly easy as long you don't screw up. Hard mode is kinda stupid though, since it removes range identifiers and the weapon triangle.

Of course, you have to start RD with Micaiah, so maybe they just couldn't stand her?

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Re: totally directed at the "too hard" crowd not you - [info]deliciouschaos, 2011-11-04 04:06 pm UTC

[info]maverickz3r0
2011-11-04 06:35 am UTC (link)
...Complaining about a Fire Emblem game being too hard is akin to complaining about being too wet when you've just been swimming.

Unless it's Sacred Stones.

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[info]jkefka
2011-11-07 05:00 am UTC (link)
In which case it's like complaining that you could pick up that empty coke can on your desk and throw it in the recycling, but it's just so heavy.

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(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-11-09 06:04 pm UTC

[info]iris
2011-11-03 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Oh man the review hatred of DW pisses me off. I wouldn't be giving it 9's and 10's or anything despite how much I personally adore it, but 32%? Hell no.

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[info]bacon_lover
2011-11-06 06:33 am UTC (link)
This. It's not a simple hack and slash, although killing 600 or 2000 enemies is awesome.

The fact that you do actually have to pay attention to the map and stop specific things from happening makes it a blast.

Also: Zhang He. So brilliant.

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[info]tofuknight
2011-11-09 06:07 pm UTC (link)
Also, sometimes you just want to kill lots of people with a ridiculously big sword/spear/umbrella, and that's ok.

(plays Samurai Warriors, but is going to get Dynasty one of these days, really)

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-11-03 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the score inflation applies to FPSs and RTSs far more than to any other genre of game. Other genres often get points taken off for basically not being FPSs, unless they're from Rockstar or Valve. RPGs are particularly prone to this, but they can make up for it if to some extent if they pump enough into graphics, or if they're Fable. Game critics from the big sites also weigh graphics incredibly high. Well, they rarely have time to actually play the whole game, so they have to focus on bling.

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[info]adevyish
2011-11-04 07:02 am UTC (link)
I hate RTSs and I can't play FPSs, so I live in happy bubble of word-of-mouth.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-11-04 11:08 am UTC (link)
Even word-of-mouth doesn't work for me. Hell, even demos don't; I hated the Dragon Age 2 demo but I can't stop playing the damn game. I've started acquiring games in a perfectly legal fashion, then spending the money on them if I end up liking them.

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(no subject) - [info]justira, 2011-11-04 02:33 pm UTC

[info]chienne
2011-11-03 04:42 pm UTC (link)
"The major games review sites seem unable to score any game below 7/10 unless it's catastrophically bad (we're talking the gaming equivalent of Manos: The Hands of Fate)."

Oh, you mean like Superman 64?

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[info]littleshebear
2011-11-03 08:16 pm UTC (link)
I always figured the worst game ever was the Atari ET game...or maybe that one where you play a cowboy with his wang hanging out (trigger warnings for racism and rape).

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-11-03 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Argh, didn't even have to click the link when I saw the title. I remember when it came out, and thinking "Who the hell thought this was a good idea," and people at school defending it, and... yeah, OK, I'm off-topic. *shudders*

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(no subject) - [info]chienne, 2011-11-03 09:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the__ivorytower, 2011-11-03 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2011-11-04 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2011-11-03 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chienne, 2011-11-03 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2011-11-03 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chienne, 2011-11-04 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-11-09 06:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2011-11-11 01:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2011-11-04 04:55 am UTC

[info]chienne
2011-11-03 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Oh God, Custer's Revenge. Yes, you're right. That game fails on every conceivable level. It's really something when you manage to beat out Resistance Records' crap games for sheer bad taste.

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[info]tofuknight
2011-11-09 06:13 pm UTC (link)
I keep trying to think that game is a modhack parody.

Maybe if I drink enough...

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[info]sparkthatbled
2011-11-09 02:27 am UTC (link)
I'd just like to mention Destructoid's Jim Sterling here. He seems to be getting a reputation for writing reviews that cause him to get flamed by fanboys, regardless of his actual opinion.

And then there was his review of Sonic Colours, which he gave a 4.5. The lowest rating on the game's Metacritic page. The only review marked negative.

He's also done this before, with Assassin's Creed 2 and Final Fantasy XIII.

And now he's being flamed because he gave Modern Warfare 3 a 9.5. Possibly by Battlefield 3 fanboys upset by his 7.5 score for that game, I don't know.

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