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platedlizard ([info]platedlizard) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2011-12-27 18:11:00


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Penny Arcade Vs. Ocean Marketing
Everyone and their sister has probably read this already, but I didn't see a post so here we go!


Someone needs to go back to PR101, and it isn't Gabe.

I'll let PA explain.

I got an incredible email today from a Penny Arcade reader. Dave shared with me an email chain between him and Ocean Marketing (the folks behind the Avenger controller) Trust me when I tell you that this is one wild ride. I’m serious, Mr. Toad would look at this ride and just give a slow clap while shaking his head. I have tried to arrange this as best I can in chronological order. I’ve also removed email addresses and other private information. So let’s just jump right in, here is Dave’s first mail to Ocean Marketing:




And a sample of the emails:

From: Ocean Marketing
To: Mike Krahulik
Dec 26, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Your spamming me you’re not on a mailing list you idiot ! You sent me an email remember . Make sure you stir up a lot of controversy about us the more the better we needed some drama gets good blood flow going about the new product launch . Your sites amateur at best my son could put together a better site than yours and you run PAX ?? Wow , Ill put my marketing team on a smear campaign of you and your site and your emails , I have about 125 dedicated people to run PR , Blogs , Articles , Videos you have no clue who I am . Thanks again



Kind thanks to the wank reporters at FARK.

EDIT: Kotaku link.


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[info]the__ivorytower
2011-12-28 04:14 am UTC (link)
My boyfriend told me about this earlier today!

This reminds me of that guy who ran the teaching supplies site.

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[info]garnethope
2011-12-28 04:56 am UTC (link)
What's truly remarkable about this wank, IMO, is the incredible breadth of its dissemination online. I've been sent links to it from a number of people, all of who, first read about it on wildly different sites or twitter feeds. It's EVERYWHERE.

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[info]quantumreality
2011-12-28 12:06 pm UTC (link)
You're right! This seemed so *familiar* somehow and I couldn't quite place it.

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[info]qem_chibati
2011-12-28 04:18 am UTC (link)
*snerk* There is supposedly one guy who used bad publicity to up his reputation on google, but that was with people badmouthing his company, but googling for the brandname items that he sold.

In this case it's the items and the company that's being badmouthed and specifically to the target audience.

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[info]nounbeast
2011-12-28 04:24 am UTC (link)
I have been laughing about this all damned day.

I'm loving that he changed Twitter account names from OceanMarketting to OceanStratagy (cool spelling bro), so someone else snapped the first name up and is using it to promote indie games.

That smear campaign is really working out, I see.

Though I'd still love to find out how I too can wwebsite as on the internet before it was the internet.

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[info]lainey
2011-12-28 05:17 am UTC (link)
Damn, I'm amazed that even with 125 dedicated people the smear campaign still didn't work out. o: Also, that "apology" definitely reads more like 'I'm sorry I got caught'.

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[info]honorh
2011-12-28 05:49 am UTC (link)
Hell's bells. Yeah, if I were a company and found out the people (person?) handling my marketing was behaving that unprofessionally, you can bet I'd dump them like a load of manure.

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2011-12-30 11:54 pm UTC

[info]gerorin
2011-12-28 04:38 am UTC (link)
Ill put my marketing team on a smear campaign of you and your site

...Penny Arcade needs help smearing their own reputation? Penny Arcade?

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[info]darksumomo
2011-12-28 05:30 am UTC (link)
Guy doesn't know his opponent, does he?

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[info]brennalarose
2011-12-28 06:00 am UTC (link)
Classic wank in the making.

"You'll never have a booth at PAX ever again."

"...well...We never liked your stupid expo anyway! We're gonna have our own con! With blackjack! And hookers! In fact, forget the blackjack!"

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2011-12-28 06:41 am UTC
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[info]eilisliana
2011-12-28 06:59 am UTC (link)
Holy shit, I recently had a problem with a company over an internet order and I am so glad it didn't go down like this saga.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-12-28 07:51 am UTC (link)
There is no way any PA thing is every going to be anything but unfunny to me. I looked at the post and went, yay, new fandomwank. Then I saw who it was, and my stomach lurched.

PA defenders threatened to rape and murder my friends during the Dickwolves thing, and the PA guys did not say one word against it. I hope that's not happening this time, but it looks like some people have already started messaging this guy's wife.

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[info]arachnejericho
2011-12-28 08:25 am UTC (link)
Bonus plagiarism.

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(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2011-12-28 08:43 pm UTC

[info]teaqueenie
2011-12-28 08:44 am UTC (link)
I am sure that any serious rebuttal cannot contain so many errors in both grammar and mechanics. Ocean Marketing needs to hire a competent secretary!

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(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2011-12-28 11:31 pm UTC
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[info]duraniedrama
2011-12-28 05:01 pm UTC (link)
I believe this is another fine example of what John Scalzi terms "having the Internet dropped on one's head."

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-12-28 05:54 pm UTC (link)
And now there's a strip about it.

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(no subject) - [info]shadwing, 2011-12-28 08:26 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-12-29 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bacon_lover, 2011-12-29 04:09 am UTC
It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]sandglass, 2011-12-28 10:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-12-28 10:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-12-28 10:58 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-12-28 11:15 pm UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]tehrin, 2011-12-28 10:56 pm UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]sandglass, 2011-12-28 10:58 pm UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]tehrin, 2011-12-28 11:08 pm UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-12-29 12:05 am UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]garnethope, 2011-12-29 12:27 am UTC
Re: It's hi-fucking-larious, let me tell you! - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-12-29 12:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2011-12-28 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2011-12-29 12:33 am UTC

[info]vanessa
2011-12-28 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Gabe's latest comment on this does sort of mention to not go after the marketing douche's wife and kids. Though speaking of which, looks like she filed charges of domestic violence against him a couple of years ago.

So maybe this twit has been doing a fine job of destroying his own rep without the help of PA's fanbase. They just made it happen quicker.

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[info]gertie_flirty
2011-12-28 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I hate that in the guys apology he's all, "If I had known it was Penny Arcade, I wouldn't have acted that way"

But, dude. You were still an unprofessional, unhelpful dick to your customer. You should have treated that initial customer with respect, instead of repeatedly lying or blowing him off. That's what professionalism is--treating everyone with respect, not just people who have "connections."

And this guy sounds super jealous of PA's connections and fame which is . . . something.

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[info]arachnejericho
2011-12-28 10:12 pm UTC (link)
I have no idea what possessed the guy to agree to an interview with MSNBC, but... here it is.

http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/28/9770514-chastened-gaming-rep-responds-to-internet-infamy

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[info]queencallipygos
2011-12-28 10:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm having an unforeseen reaction to this: My parents are connected with Ocean Spray, so I keep on mis-reading all the references to "Ocean Marketing" and having an initial millisecond of "WAIT what the - oh." each time.

I need tea now.

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(no subject) - [info]neuronin, 2011-12-31 02:53 am UTC
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[info]visp
2011-12-29 12:48 am UTC (link)
Ill put my marketing team on a smear campaign of you and your site and your emails , I have about 125 dedicated people to run PR , Blogs , Articles , Videos you have no clue who I am .

I... I just can't get over this. It's just... so perfect. If it was anything else, I'd feel sorry for him, but threatening the Penny Arcade (yes, assholes that they are) with "I have 125 people! I'll trash you!" is such a very classic slapstick setup that the laws of narrative causality predict what must happen.

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-12-29 01:07 am UTC
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[info]demonbean
2011-12-29 03:20 am UTC (link)
Normally, when I don't know much about the two groups involved, I pick a side based on grammar usage.

...I'm still undecided.

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(no subject) - [info]nounbeast, 2011-12-29 07:48 am UTC
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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-12-30 10:24 pm UTC (link)
Another Kotaku piece, which seems to fit the general mood around here.

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[info]dizmo
2011-12-30 11:52 pm UTC (link)
Good God, this is the gift that keeps on giving.

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[info]sunhawk
2011-12-31 10:00 pm UTC (link)
I'm not really cool with the PA guys rushing to pat themselves on the back, they are still gross even if they managed to find someone else who is gross in other ways.

Still, found this exchange in one of the related articles, and hell's bells what awful, bizarre customer service!

http://www.natesnetwork.com/Poor-customer-service

Did this Paul guy learn his PR at some sort of clown college? Maybe he got his degree out of a crackerjack box? Sweet jebus what a maroon!

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