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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2012-03-28 19:45:00


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Entry tags:books/authors, elitism

Stand back and watch a professional at work
Author Christopher Priest (perhaps best known for The Prestige) is not happy with the Arthur C. Clarke Award shortlist. He is not happy at all. In a single blog post, he declares that:

1) a Mr. Mark Billingham, author of "plodding, laddish" police procedurals, was not fit to share a panel stage with him, but unfortunately did so anyway;

2) 2011 was a terrible year for sci-fi, including the books that actually made the shortlist, but here are the three he thinks should have been on it (one "makes an eccentric choice in its plot, in casting the actor Clark Gable as a private eye," and the other features "Osama bin Laden is the central character in a string of pulp novels allegedly written by one Mike Longschott," and Priest may not be doing them any favors right now);

3) none of the five books shortlisted should have been, and he will now tell you exactly why, book by book;

4) okay, one of the finalists kinda-sorta deserved the shortlist, maybe, but BY GOD China Miéville should not be on it, and let him spend six (6) paragraphs telling you why;

5) other finalists, including Charles Stross and Sheri S. Tepper, are also bad and should feel bad;

6) "the present panel of judges should be fired, or forced to resign, immediately... These people have proved themselves incompetent as judges, and should not be allowed to have any more say about or influence on the Arthur C. Clarke Award";

7) the 2012 ceremony should be canceled;

8) this is not about the fact that his own book, The Islanders, was left off the shortlist.



NOTABLY QUOTABLE

"[Billingham] is a writer firmly embedded in that particular genre and digging deeper with every passing day, while I have spent the last forty years or so trying to understand and make sense of the orthodoxies that clearly define a genre but also dangerously undermine it."

"Miéville has already won the Clarke Award three times – which is not his fault, and one assumes not his intention. No doubt he is pleased to have done so."

"It is indefensible that a novel like Charles Stross’s Rule 34 (Orbit) should be given apparent credibility by an appearance in the Clarke shortlist. Stross writes like an internet puppy: energetically, egotistically, sometimes amusingly, sometimes affectingly, but always irritatingly, and goes on being energetic and egotistical and amusing for far too long. You wait nervously for the unattractive exhaustion which will lead to a piss-soaked carpet."

"To think for even one moment that this appalling and incapable piece of juvenile work might actually be chosen as winner brings on a cold sweat of fear."

"For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’."

"Of Greg Bear’s Hull Zero Three (Gollancz) there is little to say, except that it is capable in its own way, and hard in the way that some people want SF to be hard, and it keeps alive the great tradition of the SF of the 1940s and 1950s where people get in spaceships to go somewhere to do something. In this case, the unlikely story begins as the interstellar spaceship arrives somewhere. The paragraphs are short, to suit the expected attention-span of the reader. The important words are in italics. Have we lived and fought in vain?"


I don't know, but I plan on shaking my fists and demanding this of the heavens as often as humanly possible.

ETA: John Scalzi weighs in ("So for connoisseurs of the form, this is top-shelf stuff, much better than the usual entitled bleating of the tendentiously aggrieved"); Charles "Internet Puppy" Stross is making t-shirts.

WHAT I WANT TO SEE MORE OF: @notveryalice: um so i made a #ChristopherPriest gif.

ETA: I GUESS I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF AROUND HERE




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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-03-29 03:11 am UTC (link)
8) Oh of course not!

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[info]librarianmouse
2012-03-29 03:38 am UTC (link)
Cleo, you deserve a batch of internets for actually reading that entire post. I couldn't make myself read the descriptions of each and every book he liked and loathed. But I jumped back in at the end where he says:

And just in case this modest suggestion of mine is taken up...

Modest? Going from zero to "FIRE EVERYONE! CANCEL THE AWARD! BURN DOWN AWARD HEADQUARTERS!" in no seconds flat is modest?

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2012-03-29 04:00 am UTC
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[info]come_love_sleep
2012-03-29 03:53 am UTC (link)
>_>

<_< Popcorn, anyone?

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(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2012-03-29 04:35 am UTC
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[info]the__ivorytower
2012-03-29 03:53 am UTC (link)
I tend to be as dismissive of people who humourlessly complain about the existence of puns as this guy is of everyone.

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[info]ancarett
2012-03-29 04:01 am UTC (link)
I can guess who's never going to be shortlisted for one of these awards in future. His initials are C and P and his ego is larger than can be contained in a commercial airport hangar.

*pops more popcorn*

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[info]miraba
2012-03-29 04:33 am UTC (link)
I love it when professional authors throw tantrums. /joins in the popcorn

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(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2012-03-29 04:44 am UTC
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[info]singe
2012-03-29 04:35 am UTC (link)
Fuck, I missed Dinosaur Train.

Oh, excuse me! I meant, uh, that I was sitting here contemplating the orthodoxies that clearly define the genre of internet writing so I could write them down on a scrap of paper, roll it up real tight, and jam it into this guy's eardrum.

And so to bed.

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2012-03-29 06:15 am UTC
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[info]oxfordcomma
2012-03-29 04:44 am UTC (link)
Oh my god, this is PERFECTION ITSELF, in that nothing is classier than declaring fellow authors to be incompetent hacks (and/or damning them with faint praise).

Oh, f_w, how I have missed you.

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(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2012-03-29 05:40 pm UTC

[info]shyofmirrors
2012-03-29 04:54 am UTC (link)
"Miéville has already won the Clarke Award three times – which is not his fault, and one assumes not his intention. No doubt he is pleased to have done so." [Bold mine]

Is it bad that I want the bold part of this quote to achieve meme status? It just seems to cry out for it

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2012-03-29 06:06 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2012-03-29 04:26 pm UTC
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[info]schrodingerscat
2012-03-29 05:02 am UTC (link)
Author tantrums are my favorite. Thank you for wading through that for us Cleo.

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[info]misachan
2012-03-29 05:13 am UTC (link)
I love really and truly love that he says "This isn’t the place to go into a long textual analysis" and then proceeds to go on and on doing just that. And a novel that he himself says is about language has made-up words that demonstrate linguistic drift? The hell you say!

Him summing up the last book as "For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’" made me put it on my to buy list.

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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2012-03-29 09:35 am UTC

[info]notjo
2012-03-29 05:21 am UTC (link)
It's unfortunate he doesn't allow comments because that could be fun!

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2012-03-29 05:29 am UTC (link)
Oh my god, it's fulla stars. And me with a day off work tomorrow, too.

*settles in with a bag of popcorn and a bottle of tequila*

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[info]platedlizard
2012-03-29 05:42 am UTC (link)
Wait, someone wrote a book about Rule 34???

I have GOT to read this. ASAP!

/is completely distracted

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[info]gerorin
2012-03-29 05:49 am UTC (link)
HOLY WALL OF TEXT, BATMAN!

Cleolinda, clearly you have better patience with temper tantrums and verbal diarrhea than I do.

If enough people seem to think that I have proposed this in my own interests, and that it is an attempt to have my own work made eligible once again, then I would withdraw my novel The Islanders from competition.

I wonder how many people he considers 'enough people' to withdraw?

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(no subject) - [info]sabaceanbabe, 2012-03-29 06:50 pm UTC

[info]innocentsmith
2012-03-29 05:50 am UTC (link)
I don't know which is more magnificently arrogant and condescending: all the paragraphs where he explains that he's only telling China Mieville he sucks for his (M's) own good, so he can improve as a writer and "write the great novels that many people say he is capable of," or...this:

In a sense, it does not matter which one of the six books is announced, because all of them are deficient in the ways I have described. (If this happens, I hope the winner is Jane Rogers, because the deficiencies in her novel are much less serious than those in the others.)

I'm sure Ms. Rogers is appropriately gratified. Wow. I hope the nominees get together for drinks during the awards and do dramatic readings from this post.

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(no subject) - [info]silmaril, 2012-03-29 05:47 pm UTC

[info]annathepiper
2012-03-29 05:59 am UTC (link)
OH MAN. Cleolinda, I follow you on Twitter and saw your link off to the post in question.

And now it's here. I've missed you, Fandom Wank! (heart) (heart)

Also: the instant he kicked in on China Mieville, I started looking for the flames to fall!

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-03-29 06:05 am UTC (link)
Did he accidentally set this to auto-post four days early?

Not a quest saga! Quest sagas don't belong in speculative fiction! Neither do talking horses! Or puns! Or anything that could be in any way fun!

He uses the word "laddish". Delightful.

Although Miéville is clearly talented, he does not work hard enough.

Unlike Christopher Priest, who not only works very, very hard, but also expects the reader to work very, very hard to slog through one of his blog posts. Priest knows that good writing must have adverbs in nearly every sentence!

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[info]puipui
2012-03-29 06:29 am UTC (link)
Have we lived and fought in vain?

I love this. I LOVE THIS OMG. I love it so much, I just want to hug it and pet it and shove it onto the end of everything I ever say ever again, ever. I love it so much that I feel a desperate need to overuse the word "ever". HAVE WE LIVED AND FOUGHT IN VAIN?

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[info]adverb
2012-03-29 07:16 am UTC (link)
Is it weird that the thing about his post I found most annoying was his hate for 'alright'? Language changes, and I bet you anything it'll be standard in a hundred years.

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[info]fern_on_fen
2012-03-29 08:07 am UTC (link)
Wow. This is a masterpiece rant/author meltdown right here. I want to steal several of the phrases he uses unironically and then irony them about.

I'm going to be working all day for a way to fit the phrase "internet puppy" into conversation....

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[info]tehrin
2012-03-29 09:16 am UTC (link)
For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’.

What a whinnier.

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(no subject) - [info]chez_moi, 2012-03-29 10:45 am UTC
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[info]deoridhe
2012-03-29 09:52 am UTC (link)
There are puns on the word ‘neigh’

Every wank needs puns on the word 'neigh'.

Or, more properly, "That's what yo mama said last night!"

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[info]bobafeis
2012-03-29 10:13 am UTC (link)
Have we lived and fought in vain?

Yes, most likely.

Wait, what are we fighting against anyway?

The paragraphs are short, to suit the expected attention-span of the reader.

Ah, yes. I'll admit that he and his writing most definitely waged war against my attention-span.

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(no subject) - [info]evanwaters, 2012-04-14 01:13 am UTC

[info]chez_moi
2012-03-29 10:41 am UTC (link)
"For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’."

This is where I imagine the emotional breakdown really kicks in. I can almost hear his voice wobbilng on the word 'puns'. "Puns! Puns!" *incoherent sobbing*

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