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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2012-03-28 19:45:00


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Entry tags:books/authors, elitism

Stand back and watch a professional at work
Author Christopher Priest (perhaps best known for The Prestige) is not happy with the Arthur C. Clarke Award shortlist. He is not happy at all. In a single blog post, he declares that:

1) a Mr. Mark Billingham, author of "plodding, laddish" police procedurals, was not fit to share a panel stage with him, but unfortunately did so anyway;

2) 2011 was a terrible year for sci-fi, including the books that actually made the shortlist, but here are the three he thinks should have been on it (one "makes an eccentric choice in its plot, in casting the actor Clark Gable as a private eye," and the other features "Osama bin Laden is the central character in a string of pulp novels allegedly written by one Mike Longschott," and Priest may not be doing them any favors right now);

3) none of the five books shortlisted should have been, and he will now tell you exactly why, book by book;

4) okay, one of the finalists kinda-sorta deserved the shortlist, maybe, but BY GOD China Miéville should not be on it, and let him spend six (6) paragraphs telling you why;

5) other finalists, including Charles Stross and Sheri S. Tepper, are also bad and should feel bad;

6) "the present panel of judges should be fired, or forced to resign, immediately... These people have proved themselves incompetent as judges, and should not be allowed to have any more say about or influence on the Arthur C. Clarke Award";

7) the 2012 ceremony should be canceled;

8) this is not about the fact that his own book, The Islanders, was left off the shortlist.



NOTABLY QUOTABLE

"[Billingham] is a writer firmly embedded in that particular genre and digging deeper with every passing day, while I have spent the last forty years or so trying to understand and make sense of the orthodoxies that clearly define a genre but also dangerously undermine it."

"Miéville has already won the Clarke Award three times – which is not his fault, and one assumes not his intention. No doubt he is pleased to have done so."

"It is indefensible that a novel like Charles Stross’s Rule 34 (Orbit) should be given apparent credibility by an appearance in the Clarke shortlist. Stross writes like an internet puppy: energetically, egotistically, sometimes amusingly, sometimes affectingly, but always irritatingly, and goes on being energetic and egotistical and amusing for far too long. You wait nervously for the unattractive exhaustion which will lead to a piss-soaked carpet."

"To think for even one moment that this appalling and incapable piece of juvenile work might actually be chosen as winner brings on a cold sweat of fear."

"For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’."

"Of Greg Bear’s Hull Zero Three (Gollancz) there is little to say, except that it is capable in its own way, and hard in the way that some people want SF to be hard, and it keeps alive the great tradition of the SF of the 1940s and 1950s where people get in spaceships to go somewhere to do something. In this case, the unlikely story begins as the interstellar spaceship arrives somewhere. The paragraphs are short, to suit the expected attention-span of the reader. The important words are in italics. Have we lived and fought in vain?"


I don't know, but I plan on shaking my fists and demanding this of the heavens as often as humanly possible.

ETA: John Scalzi weighs in ("So for connoisseurs of the form, this is top-shelf stuff, much better than the usual entitled bleating of the tendentiously aggrieved"); Charles "Internet Puppy" Stross is making t-shirts.

WHAT I WANT TO SEE MORE OF: @notveryalice: um so i made a #ChristopherPriest gif.

ETA: I GUESS I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF AROUND HERE




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[info]rosehiptea
2012-03-29 12:28 pm UTC (link)
But with Sir Arthur now gone to the great communications satellite in the sky, the remaining collective motive must be to make some kind of statement to the larger world about the condition of science fiction writing in the present day.

Yes, because the "larger world" pays so much attention to who wins science fiction book awards.

(I know things aren't as pigeonholed as they used to be, in terms of fandom or genre, and that's good. But honestly, no one is going to ruin the reputation of science fiction by winning with a book about *gasp* spaceships.)

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[info]cleolinda
2012-03-29 04:02 pm UTC (link)
I admit, "it keeps alive the great tradition of the SF of the 1940s and 1950s where people get in spaceships to go somewhere to do something" made me laugh, because I tend to not dig hard spaceship sci-fi a whole lot unless it involves xenomorphs. I mean, sure, I love Ray Bradbury, but his short stories aren't ever really ABOUT the spaceships.

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[info]phosfate
2012-03-29 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Mark Billingham's site and stack of titles looks like it was designed by Garth Marenghi. Awesome.

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[info]cleolinda
2012-03-29 02:36 pm UTC (link)
I just keep wondering how Christopher Priest treated him in person. I feel like the word "PEON!" was used at least once.

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(no subject) - [info]nursewretched, 2012-03-29 05:47 pm UTC
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[info]dragonsong12
2012-03-29 02:58 pm UTC (link)
Is the tl;dr of this "stop having fun, guys"? Because that's all I hear.
...or maybe it's "stop having fun...without me ;_;"

On the note of that Rule 34 book, though, I have to say that I would expect a book titled that to be written like an "internet puppy", and would probably be dissapointed if it wasn't. Like it or not, dude, the internet affects the world, and so it affects art.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to hunt down that talking horse book.

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(no subject) - [info]argylespy, 2012-03-30 05:31 am UTC

[info]annathepiper
2012-03-29 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Bwahahah! This just in from Jim Hines' blog: Stross is apparently replying to Priest's pithy little commentary about him.

Behold! Internet Puppy t-shirts!

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[info]annathepiper
2012-03-29 04:05 pm UTC (link)
And also, John Scalzi proposes that Mr. Priest be on the jury for next year's Clarke Awards.

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[info]brennalarose
2012-03-29 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I actually tried to read that article and reached a point where I wasn't sure if the whimpering and mad barking I heard was the blog post or the dogs I'm watching. Christopher Priest is probably a decent writer, maybe even an okay guy, but he whines worse than a two-year-old in Toys-R-Us.

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[info]nursewretched
2012-03-29 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for reminding that I need to get around to reading some China Miéville, Mr. Priest. So thoughtful, that one.

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(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2012-04-02 05:08 pm UTC

[info]sabaceanbabe
2012-03-29 06:55 pm UTC (link)
I count anything that brings about adorable and snarky internet puppy t-shirts a clear win.

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[info]solar_boat
2012-03-29 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Not a fan of Will Shakespeare's, I take it?

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(no subject) - [info]icarusancalion, 2012-03-30 07:20 am UTC
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[info]grenadeofbees
2012-03-30 12:05 am UTC (link)
He's complaining about this when the Nebula went to Mormon space whale rape? Choose your battles, man.

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[info]eldritch
2012-03-30 12:17 am UTC (link)
Oh, this is lovely. The rage! The erudition! The fact that it's totally not about him being left out, guys, it really isn't!

HAVE WE LIVED AND FOUGHT IN VAIN?!

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[info]risha
2012-03-30 12:58 am UTC (link)
For the first few paragraphs I misread this as being Christopher Pike, which added charming surreality to it all.

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(no subject) - [info]jane_domo, 2012-03-31 09:56 am UTC

[info]sarkasm
2012-03-30 04:05 am UTC (link)
I see that Mr. Priest's Dickensean principles have been strained to the max.

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2012-03-30 06:10 am UTC (link)
I made some icons, featuring classic pulp sci-fi magazine covers:




I really felt the quote merited ALL CAPS.

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[info]jkefka
2012-03-30 02:39 pm UTC (link)
1. Icons
2. Puns
3. John Scalzi

Official "epic wank" criteria achieved.

And here I was just thinking that I needed some new sci-fi authors to read, having exhausted Alastair Reynold's current bibliography. Thanks for the pointers, Mr. Priest!

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[info]peonypavilion
2012-03-30 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Cherie Priest (she of the Clockwork Century series) felt the need to disclaimer herself, as apparently there are people unable to recognize that there's more than one C. Priest being published:
http://www.cheriepriest.com/2012/03/29/you-should-run-but-it-wont-do-any-good/
https://twitter.com/#!/cmpriest/status/185414696847949824

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(no subject) - [info]wallflower, 2012-03-30 10:33 pm UTC

[info]zing_och
2012-03-30 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Scalzi links back to f_w and includes the awesome graphic by cleolinda here.

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[info]mmanurere
2012-03-30 08:30 pm UTC (link)
It's Charles "Internet Puppy" Stross being snarky! Yay!

For those who don't know him, he wrote one of my favorite SF short stories, Rogue Farm, which he has been so kind as to make available free on the net.

This story includes two of my favorite lines of SF dialogue ever:

“Brains, fresh brains for baby Jesus,” and

“I’m a nine-legged semi-automatic groove machine!...I'm on my way to Jupiter on a mission for love! Won’t you buy my brains?”

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2012-03-31 10:12 pm UTC

[info]cleolinda
2012-03-30 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Had a request for an angrier macro:

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I pictured more of a Captain Kirk kind of vibe. - [info]puipui, 2012-03-31 07:44 am UTC
Re: I pictured more of a Captain Kirk kind of vibe. - [info]cleolinda, 2012-04-01 03:41 am UTC
Re: I pictured more of a Captain Kirk kind of vibe. - [info]teaqueenie, 2012-04-01 11:07 pm UTC

[info]staroverthebay
2012-03-30 10:36 pm UTC (link)
"For fuck’s sake, it is a quest saga and it has a talking horse. There are puns on the word ‘neigh’."
My attention has been grabbed. Because I'm too lazy (and intimidated by the vitriol from one person!) to look, what book would this description be applying to? It sounds kind of like something I might enjoy! (I certainly enjoyed Piers Anthony's "Mode" series, which had a "talking" horse in it after all)

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(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2012-03-31 09:37 pm UTC

[info]wednesday
2012-03-31 02:54 am UTC (link)
Here, have something for the talking horse. Late to the party as always, of course.

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[info]somamouse
2012-04-01 12:49 am UTC (link)
For a minute there I wondered why 'Fables' was being described as 'plodding', then I realised he was talking about Mark Billingham rather than Bill Willingham. Then I remembered that Mark Billingham used to be an actor in Maid Marian and her Merry Men and all was right with the world.

Plus, delicious wank.

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[info]teaqueenie
2012-04-01 11:06 pm UTC (link)
A talking horse is lame but his wife...a horse? That's award-worthy, that is.

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