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anarchicq ([info]anarchicq) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2012-08-26 15:52:00


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Entry tags:comics, flouncing, liefeeeeeeld!, person: rob liefeld, twitter

Rob Liefeld vs. Scott Snyder, re: Batman
So...This happened:

Apparently Rob Liefeld and Scott Snyder are having an e-pissing contest on who's the better Batman.

Bleeding Cool brings the goods.

More details courtesy of [info]loopywafflehead. I've basically stolen all of this with her permission. Thank her for the diligent work, kids! (But just like Rob, I won't erase my mistakes I'LL JUST LEAVE THEM THERE BECAUSE PSHHHH!)


Rob Liefeld Insults Everyone
Part One: In which Rob Liefeld demonstrates how to thoroughly burn one’s bridges and also that he doesn’t know how to blog.

Leifeld announces via Twitter that he’s quitting DC Comics and is clearly unhappy with working conditions there: "This is the 4th time I quit in the last 4 months. This time it will stick" … "Massive indecision, last minute and I mean LAST minute changes that alter everything. Editor pissing contests… No thxnjs [sic]". Individual tweets are compiled into a post at Bleeding
Cool
.

He continues trashing DC Comics on Twitter and gets specific about editor Brian Smith. Marvel’s Tom Brevoort defends Smith and when he is asked whether Marvel would hire Liefeld, he replies:

"After that Twitter flame-out, I can’t say I’d be in a hurry to get onto that train."

And it’s on:

Rob: Someone told me that loser fat ass Brevoort was talking trash about me today. I dropped him awhile back. I gotta coach football games..out
- Sorry they passed you over for EIC Tommy B. Get over it and get back to mixing and matching Avengers and X-Men #doucher
- I know, Tommy B, why don’t u all tell Kirkman how “concerned” u are for his future post Marvel. That’s our funniest bit that we HOWL at.
Tom: You remain a sweetheart, Rob. Don’t go changing. Also, feel free to say any of this to my face, you feckless bully.
- Takes a big man to go postal publicly on a young editor like that. #kickspuppiestoo
Rob: happy to @TomBrevoort then u can bump me with your gut
- And FYI, I don’t drink. Haven’t touched liquor in 30 years. [But Liefeld is 44, so he hasn’t had alcohol since he was 14? I also don't know where the liquor part comes into it, unless he thinks that feckless means 'drunk'?]

All quotes are collected in a second
Bleeding Cool post
, which includes the best one of all: a now-deleted tweet in which ROB LIEFELD INSULTS SOMEONE ELSE'S ART:

- @Denhoff25: I’m not one to bash but I was reading Grifter in spite of Clark’s art. He just doesn’t do it for you..
- Rob: tell me about it @Denhoff25 I had to work with that crap


Liefeld keeps tweeting on and on and on about the situation. A collection can found in this
ONTD post
(warning: be prepared for lots of scrolling). A sample:

- Next time a DC editor wants to show me how big his little pecker is – oh, right that’s over for good

- And that little pecker belongs to @yourpalsmitty let’s give him a round of applause. He’s a big dick now!! [@yourpalsmitty is Brian Smith]

- So remember that time Don Draper walked out when Duck Phillips thought he had him pinned down? Yeah, that was me today. #imdon :)




Part Two: In which Rob Liefeld does not know how to screencap or stop talking

Scott Snyder, currently working on Batman, contacts Liefeld privately. Liefeld insults him and co-writer Greg Capullo, saying that their books only sell because of the title. Liefeld makes the messages public but he doesn’t know how to screencap, so he takes photos of his computer screen instead. The battle continues and Scott emerges as the clear winner, and not simply by virtue of not being Rob Liefeld.

(This is only a sample of their twitter war. See the links below for more hilarity.)

Rob: It's not you. It never has been. It's Batman.

Scott I can assure you batman doesn't sell the way it does because it's Batman. It sells that way because of me and Greg.
Rob: Get over yourself you pretentious prick

Scott: Nice! Your Twitter feeds the best thing you’ve written all year :-)

Rob: Of course, because its not edited

Scott: Aw, I’ll give you credit Rob! :) Batman might sell in spite of me and @GregCapullo as u say, but deathstroke & Hawkman failed because of you!

Credit where it’s due, brother :-) and that’s all I’ll say on that. Ah, comics.

Rob: my sales went up on those books @Ssnyder1835 sorry bud.

Scott: Lol. And you can put that in your pouch and keep it for later :-)


Comprehensive ONTD post here and Bleeding Cool’s post on this latest development here, both of which include the 'screencaps'. Complete collection of tweets here, which includes this gem:

@GregCapullo, @Ssnyder 1835: Please don’t waste your time on the feetless one. Do more comics.

And no Rob Liefeld mention would be complete without these two posts:
The
40 Worst Rob Leifeld Drawings

40
More of the Worst Rob Liefeld Drawings



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[info]puipui
2012-08-27 01:06 am UTC (link)
I don't know anything about Scott Snyder offhand, but this:

Nice! Your Twitter feeds the best thing you’ve written all year :-)

And this:

And you can put that in your pouch and keep it for later :-)

Kind of make me want to love him. Also, I'd even venture to say that Rob Liefeld's Twitter feed might be the best thing he's drawn all year, because there's no drawing involved.

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[info]airawyn
2012-08-27 02:49 am UTC (link)
Snyder's one of the best writers DC has currently and a genuinely nice guy. I had some issues with how mental illness was presented in one of his stories and we got into a conversation on Twitter. He did defend his story, but he did it politely and seemed to really listen to what I was saying.

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(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2012-08-27 08:50 pm UTC

[info]pauraque
2012-08-27 02:50 am UTC (link)
Also, I'd even venture to say that Rob Liefeld's Twitter feed might be the best thing he's drawn all year, because there's no drawing involved.

I was going to say because the letters that make up his Twitter posts are shaped like actual normal letters and aren't malformed, scribbled, or grotesque in any way.

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(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2012-08-27 03:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2012-08-27 03:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]braisinhussy, 2012-08-27 06:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2012-08-27 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2012-08-27 08:43 pm UTC

[info]bienegold
2012-08-27 01:17 am UTC (link)
Yay! I was hoping someone would post this here.

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[info]misachan
2012-08-27 04:56 am UTC (link)
And it goes so much deep than just the kerfuffle over Batman - I can't find it anymore, but he actually sent a tweet bagging on the artist for Grifter. Rob Liefeld complaining about someone else's art!

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[info]airawyn
2012-08-27 05:10 am UTC (link)
Liefeld is throwing a full-on hissy fit. He started out criticizing DC for extremely last minute editorial changes, then attacked his editor by name, then attacked other people at DC, then attacked Marvel and has pretty much pissed off everyone in the business.

Rob Liefeld Walks Off 3 DC Titles: “Last week my editor said ‘Early on we had a lot of indie talent that weren’t used to re-writes and changes..made it hard’….Uh, no, it’s you.”

The Grifter comment was deleted, but Bleeding Cool screencapped it for all of us, at the end of the article about how Liefeld, apparently tired of attacking DC, went after Marvel editors as well: "Someone told me that loser fat ass Brevoort was talking trash about me today. I dropped him awhile back . I gotta coach football games..out"

Pete Woods chimes in, defends the DC New 52 and says, "I hate continuity. Despise it. You want to talk about interfering with a creator’s vision? There’s nothing worse than continuity. "

Bryan Q. Miller tweeted this in reference to the whole mess:
"The bigger question is, did Twitter just turn into the bar at the Anaheim Hyatt… or has it ALWAYS been the bar at the Anaheim Hyatt?"

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(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2012-08-27 02:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misachan, 2012-08-27 03:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2012-09-01 03:27 am UTC

[info]airborne_rodent
2012-08-27 05:27 am UTC (link)
I love that he doesn't know how to screencap, either.

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(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2012-08-27 03:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]airborne_rodent, 2012-08-28 03:16 am UTC

[info]roachspit
2012-08-27 08:46 am UTC (link)
Initial response: Liefeld versus some guy I'm not familiar with. Unless the other guy is a Nazi or a pedophile or something else truly heinous like that, I'm automatically on his side. Because, come on, Liefeld.

After reading: Yep. Fuck Rob Liefeld.

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-08-27 05:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2012-08-28 08:54 am UTC

[info]staroverthebay
2012-08-27 11:22 am UTC (link)
The Batman franchise is older than either of these guys, right?

So, uh, why are either of them claiming to be the reason it's so popular?

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(no subject) - [info]airawyn, 2012-08-27 02:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gerorin, 2012-08-27 03:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]airawyn, 2012-08-27 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gerorin, 2012-08-27 04:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]airawyn, 2012-08-27 04:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gerorin, 2012-08-27 04:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-08-27 07:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ghostmaster, 2012-08-27 08:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-08-28 01:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2012-09-05 06:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2012-08-27 10:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2012-08-28 08:56 am UTC

[info]loopywafflehead
2012-08-27 12:09 pm UTC (link)
There's so much gloriousness but if I had to choose, my favourite is Liefeld insulting someone else's art:

- @Denhoff25: I’m not one to bash but I was reading Grifter in spite of Clark’s art. He just doesn’t do it for you..

- Rob: tell me about it @Denhoff25 I had to work with that crap

I also loved this tweet someone sent to Scott and Greg: @GregCapullo, @Ssnyder 1835: Please don’t waste your time on the feetless one. Do more comics.

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(no subject) - [info]misachan, 2012-08-27 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2012-08-27 03:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cygnia, 2012-08-27 03:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loopywafflehead, 2012-08-27 04:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skypirate, 2012-08-27 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ninwhore, 2012-08-27 11:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the__ivorytower, 2012-08-27 05:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-08-27 08:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2012-09-01 03:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2012-09-05 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nonnyeve, 2012-08-28 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2012-08-28 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nonnyeve, 2012-08-28 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2012-08-28 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]come_love_sleep, 2012-08-28 07:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nonnyeve, 2012-08-28 08:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2012-09-05 06:43 am UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2012-08-27 02:33 pm UTC (link)
For a moment there, I thought this meant that Liefeld had done some writing/artwork for Batman, and promptly shuddered at the mental images (Though to be fair, Batman's belt does tend to have a lot of pouches already).

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[info]loopywafflehead
2012-08-27 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Sorry for spamming, OP, but you can't have a Rob Liefeld post without these two links:


The 40 Worst Rob Leifeld Drawings

40 More of the Worst Rob Liefeld Drawings

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(no subject) - [info]the__ivorytower, 2012-08-27 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-08-27 05:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cinnamonical, 2012-08-27 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2012-08-27 08:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beachlass, 2012-08-28 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2012-08-28 07:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2012-08-28 07:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2012-08-29 05:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2012-08-31 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2012-08-31 06:57 am UTC

[info]redcoast
2012-08-27 07:22 pm UTC (link)
From your description, I thought that they were dresses up in Batman costumes and then arguing about who looked better.

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[info]gabzillaz
2012-08-27 08:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm torn between secondhand embarrassment and amusement.

That said, this reboot sucks.

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(no subject) - [info]nonnyeve, 2012-08-28 05:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2012-08-28 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nonnyeve, 2012-08-28 08:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2012-08-28 09:23 pm UTC

[info]skypirate
2012-08-27 09:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad someone posted this! This was so entertaining I would've done it myself but I was swamped with work. I probably should be disappointed with everyone involved in this kerfluffle but it's just too funny.

My favourite part is Scott Snyder's liberal use of passive aggressive smileys. :-)

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2012-08-28 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]veleda_k, 2012-08-28 04:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2012-08-28 07:36 pm UTC

[info]iczer6
2012-08-27 11:05 pm UTC (link)
I'm a bit sad they aren't arguing over who was the better Batman in the movies. Michael Keaton vs Christian Bales.

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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2012-08-28 03:20 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2012-08-29 05:26 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2012-08-28 04:25 pm UTC

[info]ekaterinv
2012-08-27 11:07 pm UTC (link)
I don't suppose any of this will impair Rob Liefeld's incomprehensible ability to get work. I don't even read comics, but he pops up everywhere and I would like him to stop assailing my eyeballs and brain.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2012-08-28 08:49 am UTC

[info]theelusiven
2012-08-28 12:12 am UTC (link)
The intrepid mice of Wank_Report have assembled a compendium of LOL-worthy links.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2012-08-28 10:15 am UTC (link)
Comic book artists I like haven't given me as much joy as Rob Liefield. Shine on, you crazy footless diamond.

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[info]taktuk
2012-08-28 11:23 am UTC (link)
Didn't he do some really sexist statue of Mary Jane drying Spider-Man's laundry or something?

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(no subject) - [info]dragonsong12, 2012-08-28 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]taktuk, 2012-08-28 03:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonsong12, 2012-08-29 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2012-08-31 07:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabzillaz, 2012-08-28 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2012-08-31 05:36 am UTC

[info]dragonsong12
2012-08-28 03:01 pm UTC (link)
This is what I get for taking the weekend off, I miss the best wanks!

Seeing Liefeld meltdown like this may be one of the greatest things I've ever witnessed. And now he can't destroy promising books with his shitty, shitty art.

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[info]nonnyeve
2012-08-28 05:04 pm UTC (link)
I've been loving this whole saga. My only disappointment is that Gail Simone acted like an adult, I want all the comic creators I like to get ridiculous in this

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[info]sandglass
2012-09-01 03:43 am UTC (link)
I love that Leifeld opted to post screenpics of that private exchange, which makes Scott look pretty great and Leifeld like a gigantic asshat.

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[info]napalmnacey
2012-09-05 06:48 am UTC (link)
Wow. A ROBSPLOSION! *giggles like a nut*

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[info]annepackrat
2012-09-12 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Rob Liefeld cannot draw enough pouches to fill with all the fucks I have to give.

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