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M ([info]girl_friday) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2012-12-30 09:00:00


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Current mood:Impish
Entry tags:ao3, comics, fanfic, reviews

Delicious AO3 Comment wank
(Thank you to a mousey at [info]wank_report! I have c/p your commentary verbatim, only adding links.)

Ten days ago, author FelicityGS posted "There's Nothing There" a Loki/Steve Rogers fic, and lo, there was squee...for three comments. [ETA: Added correct link, because I'm apparently a dumbass before coffee.]

Until, that is, the following mild concrit is posted by "J":

"Almost all of the parenthesis and several commas were unnecessary. If a sentence goes on for more than two lines, it should probably be broken up into two or more sentences. You might want to get a beta who is really good with grammar/punctuation. Otherwise, great story. Very cute and well thought out. (:"

Felicity GS does Not Take It Well, and in a series of comments compares her work to that great author "Nabakov", and claims her "style" trumps such things as "proper grammar" and "readability", closing with this flourish:

But do me a fucking favour:

don't fucking tell me I need a fucking goddamn beta who knows grammar really fucking well and that I could get rid of all those fucking parens and had too many fucking commas because I did not use any of those fucking lightly and you are a fucking douche.

Because if the above didn't give it away?

I know fucking grammar. I know style. I am comfortable in my style, I have given thought to my style, and I know the difference between grammar and style. I write fanfiction as a labour of love and to share stories, to hone my craft and to practice what I have been doing since I could hold a pen.

Fuck.

You.

<3


Her commenters are rather boggled, except for an anon who immediately starts rending garments in response to someone leaving a critique on - GASP! - a Yuletide fic:

But you're probably also someone who tells their granny the Christmas socks scratch and the cookies are dusty instead of doing the right thing. What a miserable bunch of hypocrites and nasty bitches claimed Yuletide this year!

Unfortunately, the fic has nothing whatsoever to do with Yuletide, and fellow anons take him/her/zie/them to task for the mistake:

Gift exchange? Yuletide? Also, the author was the one reacting with hostility to a helpful comment-- vile, abusive hostility. WITH AN EPIC NOVEL OF OVERLY DEFENSIVE BABBLE.

I don't even-- what is with your comment? Are you trying to paint me as some sort of hands-rubbing, world-domination-wanting Grinch? Where are you going with this absurd reading into things that aren't there at all?


FelicityGS deflects blame by claiming she was "stressed" and wrote the fic to ease said mental strain. She also complains about the meanness of the author who dared leave her concrit, up to and including misrepresenting the content of the feedback:

"No. It was not helpful nor constructive. It said "this sucks, this sucks, do better, oh and the idea was nice."

That is not useful."


Still active and ongoing, as FelicityGS's comments have hit both Yuletide Coal and Fail Fandom Anon, where, unsurprisingly, is hilarity at FelicityGS's overreaction.

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

FelicityGS has taken the wank to her own tumblr (all stylistic choices original):

I.

Love.

Parentheses.

And you can pry them away from me and my style over my cold, dead body.


(fuck you)

(no seriously)

(but not you guys that actually explain why you don’t like parens, you guys are cool)

Commas? Okay, yeah, there are some comma splices in the story. No big. Whatever. I literally typed it up and posted it, and there are some spots I wouldn’t mind smoothing a bit. And I am willing to bet most the commas that you think are ‘unnecessary’ are, in fact, doing things. Like separating lists, or clauses, or, you know, THINGS THAT COMMAS DO.

I actually feel delightfully, refreshingly vindicated and good for breaking down that comment and addressing it in that manner, because I can look at it and see that, no, no, I’m not fucking crazy.


You may not be crazy, sweetie, but you are certainly a wanker.



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[info]beejium
2012-12-30 07:16 pm UTC (link)
"You compared yourself to Nabokov. That's pretty self-congratulatory."

"I reached for the first book I had at hand. I apologize it wasn't low brow enough for you."


*swoon*

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[info]kookaburra
2012-12-30 08:29 pm UTC (link)
If your excuse is, "Well, it was what I had handy," I think that kind of shoots holes through your "MY PARENTHESIS ARE A CONSCIOUS STYLISTIC CHOICE IN THE STYLE OF [famous book/author]!" defense.

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[info]subluxate
2012-12-30 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Exactly why I didn't bother replying to it. She would've just gone on and on and ON. Again.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-12-30 08:45 pm UTC (link)
If my style was like that of an author whose book I have closest to hand, it would be like that of Patricia McKillip, Lois McMaster Bujold, Jim C. Hines, or Stephenie Meyer. (I'm attempting to read Twilight so I may criticize it properly. It's taking a really really long time.)

Now I'm tempted to try to write a story that's a mishmash of those four styles. I think I would have to get both drunk and high first. Then maybe hit myself in the head a few times.

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[info]eljuno
2012-12-30 09:06 pm UTC (link)
I grabbed the four books closest to my bed and, cutting the one that's sitting there because I'm totally going to read it one day, guys, honestly, we get Terry Pratchett, Mercedes Lackey and Yukio Mishima (who I actually don't remember that well)

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2012-12-30 09:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the__ivorytower, 2012-12-30 09:41 pm UTC

[info]seca
2012-12-30 09:48 pm UTC (link)
If I grab the closest four books on my desk I will end up with text books to learn Japanese. Somehow I don't see those working well as writing styles to emulate in fanfiction.

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2012-12-31 07:05 am UTC
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[info]beejium
2012-12-30 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Mine would be Amy Pennington, author of Apartment Gardening. IDK.

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[info]beccastareyes
2012-12-30 10:40 pm UTC (link)
I got N K Jemisin and the local newspaper.

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[info]anarchicq
2012-12-30 11:40 pm UTC (link)
If I grabbed the four closest books to me I'd have...comics. Probably from the 70's. I don't feel like opening my longbox to find out what's inside.

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(no subject) - [info]seca, 2013-01-01 10:52 am UTC
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[info]puipui
2012-12-31 07:04 am UTC (link)
Agatha Christie, Diana Wynne Jones, John Hodgman, and Stephen Colbert.

Honestly, truly, I have absolutely no idea what a mishmash of those four would be like at all, except that it would be fucking awesome.

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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2012-12-31 04:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2012-12-31 07:21 pm UTC

[info]the_sun_is_up
2012-12-31 11:21 am UTC (link)
*grabs nearby book* Beatrix Potter.

... I was writing TV Tropes pages. And feeling nostalgic.

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[info]sequinedlizard
2013-01-01 01:02 am UTC (link)
I don't have books on my desk, just two small rabbits. I don't think they're particularly concerned about grammar.

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[info]hopsandbarley
2013-01-01 01:10 am UTC (link)
...a trade paperback of the Adventure Time comic, and a Nadia G cookbook. So, I'd end up writing a comic about an Italian-Canadian chef who goes on trippy adventures in a magical land, while armed with lots and lots of maple syrup.

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(no subject) - [info]hopsandbarley, 2013-01-01 01:14 am UTC
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[info]schrodingerscat
2013-01-01 06:48 am UTC (link)
I have a book of Haida mythology and one on planetary atmospheres. A mashup of those two would be very odd.

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(no subject) - [info]taktuk, 2013-01-01 08:42 am UTC

[info]adverb
2013-01-01 01:09 pm UTC (link)
X-Factor comics, my linguistics textbook, and An Introduction to Old Norse. Disturbingly, that actually does describe my current fic in many ways.

brb rethinking life choices

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2013-01-02 12:04 am UTC
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[info]lanas_archive
2013-01-01 07:49 pm UTC (link)
I've got Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, Don Quixote, and Dracula's Guests - which is an anthology of Victorian stories. I don't even want to know what would come of that.

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[info]taterbird
2013-01-02 03:46 am UTC (link)
Hmmm... I have an Alison Weir, my old chem texts from college, and my teacher's editions. I think my fanfic would have little text boxes that said "Did You Know?", a long love poem to Avogadro, and take potshots at historians I disagree with. It sounds wanky as hell.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-01-02 04:02 am UTC (link)
Game books. Old game books. Traveller and AD&D (first edition).
Oh, that Gygaxian prose.

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[info]duraniedrama
2013-01-04 01:11 am UTC (link)
If I grabbed the four books closest to where I am now, I'd wind up with a Janet Evanovich novel I'd set aside to put on swap.com, a tattered paperback copy of the Merriam-Webster Dictionary from 1974 and two different translations of the I Ching. If you count the two copies of the I Ching as one book, you could go one book over and add in The Devil in the White City by Erik Larson.

I wouldn't even know where to start.

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[info]sorchar
2012-12-31 04:08 am UTC (link)
I'm on the couch, so car magazines that belong to my son. I'm SOL.

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[info]eevee
2013-01-01 04:22 pm UTC (link)
I better take this programming manual off my desk before it starts to
influence(myProse) {
/* Ahhh! Send help! */
}

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[info]duraniedrama
2013-01-04 01:12 am UTC (link)
And where would you like your internet delivered?

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2012-12-30 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Ooh well aren't we pretentious. "Yes, I read Nabokov." *hipster glasses* "You've probably never heard of him."

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[info]singe
2012-12-31 01:31 am UTC (link)
He's, like, that guy that inspired Sting.

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[info]subluxate
2012-12-31 08:37 am UTC (link)
I'd have Holmes, Philippa Gregory, and Italian textbooks.

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