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it looks like redcoats, but it isn't ([info]redcoast) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-01-16 09:58:00


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Entry tags:fandom: supernatural, rps is not for real guys!, shipping is very serious business

The new thing in the SPN fandom is dragging babies into shipping wars
A fierce and long-time battle has raged between the Wincest (Sam/Dean) and Destiel (Dean/Castiel) shippers in the Supernatural fandom. What's that? Ships that don't involve Dean? Ha, ha!

Of course, Wincest fans have to constantly put up with harrassment because the guys are brothers so they get a lot of "Ew, that's sick!" and "Do you want to have sex with your brother?!" But mostly the wank comes from Wincest fans who are dedicated Castiel/Misha Collins haters, and Destiel fans who are Sam/Jared Padalecki haters, and despite these being a decided minority there being many prominent except to these stereotypes, each side continues to paint the other with the same brush.

Lately some shippers decided that it would be appropriate to bring an actor's two-year-old son into the debate, because that's always classy.

The tumblr blog "Things Better Than Destiel," which has listed such things as genocide, miscarriage, and, charmingly, rape, created a post that reads "Things That Are Better Than Destiel: ABORTION" and then tagged it with "West Collins," who is Misha Collin's two-year-old son. Katie (tumblr URL: kickitintheslash), writes:

Despite their claims that “THIS BLOG ISN’T POKING FUN AT ATROCITIES The only thing being mocked here is destiel,” I think this post alone makes the true intentions of this blog quite clear. West Collins is a CHILD. He has nothing to do with Destiel nor is he even aware of its existence. Tagging him - with the obviously implication that Misha and Vicki should have had him aborted - crosses a serious line. Rape jokes are horrible enough on their own… but this is almost ominously threatening. Even if you hate a ship, character, or actor… tagging innocent children in your hate posts (especially posts implying the child shouldn’t be alive) is too far. Wishing a child weren’t alive… that’s not comedy. That’s sick and too deplorable for words. Same with jokes about rape.
and,
What next? A hate blog against Wincest tagging Thomas or “Baby Ackles” in abortion posts?
Oh, it's already happened, but it wasn't anti-Wincest.

But come on, you say, surely nobody is trying to defend Things Better Than Destiel! Prepare to have your faith in humanity crushed once again, because people are. Writes anon,
I follow things-better-than-destiel and I really love it, since the Destiel shippers were really asking for such hate: they left hate everywhere, disrespected other ships and acted like assholes. I'm sick and tired of this part of the fandom and I'll support this blog no matter what. Because at the end the Destiels get that they deserve.
("the Destiels"?) The owner of the blog Things Better Than Destiel is unlikely to remove the West Collins post, seeing as how s/he wouldn't remove the "rape" post despite getting, by their own description, over a hundred messages asking them to do so. Because FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BABY!

A different tumblr user, whose URL is wincest-heaven, because of course it is, has apparently had it up to here with West Collins, and makes someecards graphics to express their feelings, seemingly in response to this video of West and Misha cooking a meal together. The first:
"Thank you for teaching me how amazing it is to be born into white privilege, Dad!
Now the world knows what a wasteful spoiled brat I am.
Let's send our video to the black kids in Haiti. Bet their bellies will hurt, when they see all the food I've wasted!"
"Oh bug, next time you go shopping be careful not to wonder into traffic and get squashed!"
The second:
"Being born into white privilege is fun. I can be a spoiled, wasteful brat and people still think it's adorable."
The third might tumble into meta commentary:
"Hey look, dad! They're talking about me on tumblr. Does that make me famous? Being white sure is nice!"
Not for nothing, but do you know who is also white? The Winchester brothers.

Surprisingly, this move does not endear Wincest shippers to Destiel shippers:
The thing that annoys me the most about (some) Wincest shippers (besides the fact that they ship Wincest) is that not only they hate Cas for no reason (he only dragged both of the brothers out of Hell and saved their lives three million times, nbd), but that they project that hatred onto Misha, and now West. WTF I WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, HE IS TWO YEARS OLD! ARE YOU NUTS?! He is not a “spoiled brat”, he ain’t privileged (even if he is, that’s none of your concern), he is a kid with two loving parents who let him learn stuff by doing. I’m sorry that your mama didn’t hug you enough and your papa hit you with a stick every time you didn’t finish your food, but stop spreading your hatred, you fucking dickheads.
I'm sure West, who has two wealthy parents, isn't privileged at all.

For more reasoned discourse, watch Supernatural, Season ... they're considering a spin-off?! God, this show won't die!


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[info]lil_miss_stfu
2013-01-17 05:45 am UTC (link)
Incredibly tempted to report that 'Things better than Destiel' tumblr for being an offensive pile of shit.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-01-17 06:47 am UTC (link)
*enables*
or *encourages*
(one of those two.)

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[info]kittenmommy
2013-01-17 11:52 am UTC (link)

I think you should!

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(no subject) - [info]alcesx2, 2013-01-17 04:02 pm UTC
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[info]white_tean
2013-01-17 05:54 am UTC (link)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Misha Collins actually big into charity?

Oh, wait, I'm trying to interject any sense of logic into this mass of blithering hatred. Nevermind.

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(no subject) - [info]eevee, 2013-01-17 09:51 am UTC
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[info]puipui
2013-01-17 05:58 am UTC (link)
I’m sorry that your mama didn’t hug you enough and your papa hit you with a stick every time you didn’t finish your food, but stop spreading your hatred, you fucking dickheads.

I'm with this one. "Fucking dickheads" pretty much describes it, yeah.

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2013-01-17 08:58 pm UTC

[info]skarrow
2013-01-17 06:18 am UTC (link)
Amazing one-two punch of SJFail there, what with the 'decrying white privilege' right next to 'assuming all foreign brown people are starving and waiting for handouts'.

Yep, I can tell you really care about Haitians, guys.

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Re: Reposted for HTML fail - [info]ekaterinv, 2013-01-17 09:04 pm UTC
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[info]rosehiptea
2013-01-17 06:30 am UTC (link)
All that for a damn ship war? Why? I mean... they're fictional and, and, ... it just doesn't make any sense.

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(no subject) - [info]white_tean, 2013-01-17 10:52 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2013-01-17 09:21 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]white_tean, 2013-01-18 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dejla, 2013-01-24 10:18 pm UTC

[info]ashes
2013-01-17 06:39 am UTC (link)
I...

Um...

Nope. I have nothing but utter confusion.

While I think Tumblr's obsession with West Collins is strange (don't get me wrong: he's adorable, and I watched that whole video while going, "Yup, that's a toddler."), it never occurred to me that there would be a violent and ugly backlash to that.

I mean, this is some downright appalling behavior. It's a ship. On a show that, frankly, somehow survived longer than it should have. (I love it, but seriously.)

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[info]iczer6
2013-01-17 06:43 am UTC (link)
I..I almost miss the J2 fans now.

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(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2013-01-17 07:48 am UTC
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[info]misachan
2013-01-17 07:02 am UTC (link)
Can we just talk about how darling that kid is instead? When he wiped his hands off on Misha's shirt I laughed so loud it woke the cat.

(He voluntarily sort of eats brussel sprouts! And broccoli!)

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[info]uldihaa
2013-01-17 08:46 am UTC (link)
Okay, some people desperately need to take a break from the internet and fandom. This level of distortion is frankly a bit frightening. What train of thought lead to using a real toddler in SHIPPING WARS about PEOPLE THAT DON'T EXIST!?


Fargghblarmghpthflarmgha!!!

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-17 09:10 am UTC
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[info]eevee
2013-01-17 09:41 am UTC (link)

Are these people just looking for something... anything to hate? Such desperate determination in deluding oneself with bullshit reasons to insult other people reminds me of soccer hooligans.
Imagine if Supernatural was acted live in a stadium in front of 30,000 frothing fangirls. D:

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Re: Reposted for HTML fail - [info]uldihaa, 2013-01-17 02:25 pm UTC
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[info]kittenmommy
2013-01-17 11:51 am UTC (link)

OMG. Those people are seriously disturbed. D:

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[info]karmyn75
2013-01-17 01:16 pm UTC (link)
When I first saw this I thought it was about people shipping West, Maison, Thomas, and Baby Ackles in various ways.

As for the actual topic, that is just wrong. I wish the sane part of fandom was a vocal as the crazy bits.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-17 04:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashes, 2013-01-17 05:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2013-01-18 06:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-18 08:54 pm UTC
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[info]hopsandbarley
2013-01-17 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Look, I'm gonna ignore the awfulness of these fans here and just focus on the video.

Can I just say that this is the first toddler I've seen that will willingly eat raw green vegetables? When I was a kid, the only green veggie I liked were peas, and only if they were frozen sweet peas that had been cooked with just a little butter. Also, I see nothing unusual with tossing a few skinny noodles in a buttered skillet; that's how my family makes fried noodles on beef stew night!

Finally, I'd just like to note that this "toss random things together and see what happens" method of cooking is basically how I made most of my "fancier" meals during two years I lived in an on-campus apartment with an actual kitchen. "I'm hungry...what's in the kitchen...pancake mix, seasoned salt, potatoes, vegetable oil and tilapia? Yeah, I can make dinner out of this."

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(no subject) - [info]worstangel, 2013-01-17 08:15 pm UTC
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[info]ekaterinv
2013-01-17 08:59 pm UTC (link)
So SJWs are now saying that if a father teaches his son how to cook, that's white privilege.

That's it, I'm done.

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(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2013-01-17 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2013-01-17 09:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_sun_is_up, 2013-01-17 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-17 11:22 pm UTC
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[info]the_sun_is_up
2013-01-17 09:17 pm UTC (link)
I feel like there's some kind of Most Loathsome Fandom Ever contest going on that SPN fandom is desperately trying to win. Newsflash, SPN fandom: no one else is even close to competing with you in this regard! You win! You can fucking stop now!

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[info]coffee_mug
2013-01-17 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I seriously can't with these people. Both sides are horrible and acting horribly and saying horrible things. Ughhhh.

Ship wars - whoever "wins", we all lose.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-17 11:32 pm UTC

[info]tez
2013-01-17 11:22 pm UTC (link)
Every time I think these people can't get any lower...they get lower.

I'ma go over here and mess around with my new fountain pen and make myself happy again, k?

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(no subject) - [info]uldihaa, 2013-01-18 11:21 am UTC
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[info]nymeria
2013-01-17 11:44 pm UTC (link)
JFC, this right here is why I'm glad I got out of SPN fandom before Castiel was even introduced.

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[info]baranduyn
2013-01-18 05:59 am UTC (link)
The kid is two years old. I repeat, the kid is two years old.

I hope everyone one of those haters takes a bath in legos.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2013-01-18 07:03 pm UTC
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[info]darthtall
2013-01-18 07:45 am UTC (link)
That video is somehow simultaneously intensely adorable and also reminding me that I never want to have children.

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[info]khym_chanur
2013-01-18 11:16 am UTC (link)
"Destiel". It sounds like a cross between a prescription drug and a fuel.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-21 10:53 pm UTC

[info]justjenn
2013-01-19 04:04 am UTC (link)
Just when I think that SPN fandom can't sink lower, they do!

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[info]seanchaigirl
2013-01-20 12:44 am UTC (link)
You know, I want to be angry with these idiot toddler-haters but I stopped reading to watch the video of Misha with his son and now I'm mushier than the butter West was smooshing into his frying pan. Awwww.

Seriously, how does one go about hating that video? I can't even.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2013-01-31 03:44 pm UTC

 
   
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