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it looks like redcoats, but it isn't ([info]redcoast) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-01-16 09:58:00


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Entry tags:fandom: supernatural, rps is not for real guys!, shipping is very serious business

The new thing in the SPN fandom is dragging babies into shipping wars
A fierce and long-time battle has raged between the Wincest (Sam/Dean) and Destiel (Dean/Castiel) shippers in the Supernatural fandom. What's that? Ships that don't involve Dean? Ha, ha!

Of course, Wincest fans have to constantly put up with harrassment because the guys are brothers so they get a lot of "Ew, that's sick!" and "Do you want to have sex with your brother?!" But mostly the wank comes from Wincest fans who are dedicated Castiel/Misha Collins haters, and Destiel fans who are Sam/Jared Padalecki haters, and despite these being a decided minority there being many prominent except to these stereotypes, each side continues to paint the other with the same brush.

Lately some shippers decided that it would be appropriate to bring an actor's two-year-old son into the debate, because that's always classy.

The tumblr blog "Things Better Than Destiel," which has listed such things as genocide, miscarriage, and, charmingly, rape, created a post that reads "Things That Are Better Than Destiel: ABORTION" and then tagged it with "West Collins," who is Misha Collin's two-year-old son. Katie (tumblr URL: kickitintheslash), writes:

Despite their claims that “THIS BLOG ISN’T POKING FUN AT ATROCITIES The only thing being mocked here is destiel,” I think this post alone makes the true intentions of this blog quite clear. West Collins is a CHILD. He has nothing to do with Destiel nor is he even aware of its existence. Tagging him - with the obviously implication that Misha and Vicki should have had him aborted - crosses a serious line. Rape jokes are horrible enough on their own… but this is almost ominously threatening. Even if you hate a ship, character, or actor… tagging innocent children in your hate posts (especially posts implying the child shouldn’t be alive) is too far. Wishing a child weren’t alive… that’s not comedy. That’s sick and too deplorable for words. Same with jokes about rape.
and,
What next? A hate blog against Wincest tagging Thomas or “Baby Ackles” in abortion posts?
Oh, it's already happened, but it wasn't anti-Wincest.

But come on, you say, surely nobody is trying to defend Things Better Than Destiel! Prepare to have your faith in humanity crushed once again, because people are. Writes anon,
I follow things-better-than-destiel and I really love it, since the Destiel shippers were really asking for such hate: they left hate everywhere, disrespected other ships and acted like assholes. I'm sick and tired of this part of the fandom and I'll support this blog no matter what. Because at the end the Destiels get that they deserve.
("the Destiels"?) The owner of the blog Things Better Than Destiel is unlikely to remove the West Collins post, seeing as how s/he wouldn't remove the "rape" post despite getting, by their own description, over a hundred messages asking them to do so. Because FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BABY!

A different tumblr user, whose URL is wincest-heaven, because of course it is, has apparently had it up to here with West Collins, and makes someecards graphics to express their feelings, seemingly in response to this video of West and Misha cooking a meal together. The first:
"Thank you for teaching me how amazing it is to be born into white privilege, Dad!
Now the world knows what a wasteful spoiled brat I am.
Let's send our video to the black kids in Haiti. Bet their bellies will hurt, when they see all the food I've wasted!"
"Oh bug, next time you go shopping be careful not to wonder into traffic and get squashed!"
The second:
"Being born into white privilege is fun. I can be a spoiled, wasteful brat and people still think it's adorable."
The third might tumble into meta commentary:
"Hey look, dad! They're talking about me on tumblr. Does that make me famous? Being white sure is nice!"
Not for nothing, but do you know who is also white? The Winchester brothers.

Surprisingly, this move does not endear Wincest shippers to Destiel shippers:
The thing that annoys me the most about (some) Wincest shippers (besides the fact that they ship Wincest) is that not only they hate Cas for no reason (he only dragged both of the brothers out of Hell and saved their lives three million times, nbd), but that they project that hatred onto Misha, and now West. WTF I WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, HE IS TWO YEARS OLD! ARE YOU NUTS?! He is not a “spoiled brat”, he ain’t privileged (even if he is, that’s none of your concern), he is a kid with two loving parents who let him learn stuff by doing. I’m sorry that your mama didn’t hug you enough and your papa hit you with a stick every time you didn’t finish your food, but stop spreading your hatred, you fucking dickheads.
I'm sure West, who has two wealthy parents, isn't privileged at all.

For more reasoned discourse, watch Supernatural, Season ... they're considering a spin-off?! God, this show won't die!


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[info]skarrow
2013-01-17 06:18 am UTC (link)
Amazing one-two punch of SJFail there, what with the 'decrying white privilege' right next to 'assuming all foreign brown people are starving and waiting for handouts'.

Yep, I can tell you really care about Haitians, guys.

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-01-17 09:04 pm UTC (link)
And assuming all white people have more than enough to eat right alongside it, but then SJWs like to pretend all white people around the whole world are rich.

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[info]skarrow
2013-01-17 09:19 pm UTC (link)
In this case? Yeah, the kid has food. And? This is not a race issue. This isn't even a class issue. Toddlers don't have good table manners? News at fucking eleven, stop co-opting other people's issues for your shipwar. Groce.

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Re: Reposted for HTML fail
[info]ekaterinv
2013-01-17 09:33 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. Wanting to imagine hot men fucking is perfectly acceptable. Why can it not end there? Why must there be some Greater Cause to it? Said Greater Cause being achieving assholery on levels visible from the Andromeda Galaxy.

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[info]janegraddell
2013-01-18 06:08 pm UTC (link)
I don't even know where that crap came from. Please excuse me while I rant in a tl;dr fashion.

Here's what I saw:

A dad teaching his kid that it's okay to stop and look and explore, that not everything has to be to the clock. A dad being incredibly patient, and gently directing his kid towards appropriate behavior, and not discouraging him from looking and touching so long as he wasn't being disruptive or destructive. I saw parents spending a whole day with their son, going out and being together and talking and cooking and having fun. I saw that going to the store in the bike and messing around in the kitchen was familiar territory, that this was a dad who clearly spent a lot of time with his son.

So, apparently they're teaching their kid that his parents are willing to spend time with him, that what he wants to do is important enough for the adults to do it, too, and how he can make choices and participate in the family.

Which, by the way, is the kind of stuff that tends to reinforce that silly notion in kids that their parents love them.

How horrible.

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[info]indis_earfalas
2013-01-28 01:51 pm UTC (link)
All of the above. I also saw a toddler eating green stuff and fruit on purpose. Well done parents!

(Yes, this comment is way late!)

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