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fandom: supernatural, rps is not for real guys!, shipping is very serious business

The new thing in the SPN fandom is dragging babies into shipping wars
A fierce and long-time battle has raged between the Wincest (Sam/Dean) and Destiel (Dean/Castiel) shippers in the Supernatural fandom. What's that? Ships that don't involve Dean? Ha, ha!

Of course, Wincest fans have to constantly put up with harrassment because the guys are brothers so they get a lot of "Ew, that's sick!" and "Do you want to have sex with your brother?!" But mostly the wank comes from Wincest fans who are dedicated Castiel/Misha Collins haters, and Destiel fans who are Sam/Jared Padalecki haters, and despite these being a decided minority there being many prominent except to these stereotypes, each side continues to paint the other with the same brush.

Lately some shippers decided that it would be appropriate to bring an actor's two-year-old son into the debate, because that's always classy.

The tumblr blog "Things Better Than Destiel," which has listed such things as genocide, miscarriage, and, charmingly, rape, created a post that reads "Things That Are Better Than Destiel: ABORTION" and then tagged it with "West Collins," who is Misha Collin's two-year-old son. Katie (tumblr URL: kickitintheslash), writes:

Despite their claims that “THIS BLOG ISN’T POKING FUN AT ATROCITIES The only thing being mocked here is destiel,” I think this post alone makes the true intentions of this blog quite clear. West Collins is a CHILD. He has nothing to do with Destiel nor is he even aware of its existence. Tagging him - with the obviously implication that Misha and Vicki should have had him aborted - crosses a serious line. Rape jokes are horrible enough on their own… but this is almost ominously threatening. Even if you hate a ship, character, or actor… tagging innocent children in your hate posts (especially posts implying the child shouldn’t be alive) is too far. Wishing a child weren’t alive… that’s not comedy. That’s sick and too deplorable for words. Same with jokes about rape.

and,

What next? A hate blog against Wincest tagging Thomas or “Baby Ackles” in abortion posts?

Oh, it's already happened, but it wasn't anti-Wincest.

But come on, you say, surely nobody is trying to defend Things Better Than Destiel! Prepare to have your faith in humanity crushed once again, because people are. Writes anon,

I follow things-better-than-destiel and I really love it, since the Destiel shippers were really asking for such hate: they left hate everywhere, disrespected other ships and acted like assholes. I'm sick and tired of this part of the fandom and I'll support this blog no matter what. Because at the end the Destiels get that they deserve.

("the Destiels"?) The owner of the blog Things Better Than Destiel is unlikely to remove the West Collins post, seeing as how s/he wouldn't remove the "rape" post despite getting, by their own description, over a hundred messages asking them to do so. Because FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BABY!

A different tumblr user, whose URL is wincest-heaven, because of course it is, has apparently had it up to here with West Collins, and makes someecards graphics to express their feelings, seemingly in response to this video of West and Misha cooking a meal together. The first:

"Thank you for teaching me how amazing it is to be born into white privilege, Dad!
Now the world knows what a wasteful spoiled brat I am.
Let's send our video to the black kids in Haiti. Bet their bellies will hurt, when they see all the food I've wasted!"
"Oh bug, next time you go shopping be careful not to wonder into traffic and get squashed!"

The second:

"Being born into white privilege is fun. I can be a spoiled, wasteful brat and people still think it's adorable."

The third might tumble into meta commentary:

"Hey look, dad! They're talking about me on tumblr. Does that make me famous? Being white sure is nice!"

Not for nothing, but do you know who is also white? The Winchester brothers.

Surprisingly, this move does not endear Wincest shippers to Destiel shippers:

The thing that annoys me the most about (some) Wincest shippers (besides the fact that they ship Wincest) is that not only they hate Cas for no reason (he only dragged both of the brothers out of Hell and saved their lives three million times, nbd), but that they project that hatred onto Misha, and now West. WTF I WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE, HE IS TWO YEARS OLD! ARE YOU NUTS?! He is not a “spoiled brat”, he ain’t privileged (even if he is, that’s none of your concern), he is a kid with two loving parents who let him learn stuff by doing. I’m sorry that your mama didn’t hug you enough and your papa hit you with a stick every time you didn’t finish your food, but stop spreading your hatred, you fucking dickheads.

I'm sure West, who has two wealthy parents, isn't privileged at all.

For more reasoned discourse, watch Supernatural, Season ... they're considering a spin-off?! God, this show won't die!

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	karmyn75 2013-01-17 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	When I first saw this I thought it was about people shipping West, Maison, Thomas, and Baby Ackles in various ways. As for the actual topic, that is just wrong. I wish the sane part of fandom was a vocal as the crazy bits. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	redcoast 2013-01-17 04:01 pm UTC (link)
	Oh my god, I just realized the possibility of West/Maison porn existing. NOOOOOOOOO...! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ashes 2013-01-17 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	Well, now that you've said it, it can't be stopped. T_T (Reply to this)(Parent)

	janegraddell 2013-01-18 06:11 pm UTC (link)
	That's still better than the spn_blindfold fiasco. :( (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	redcoast 2013-01-18 08:54 pm UTC (link)
	what fiasco? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

janegraddell
2013-01-19 02:44 am UTC (link)

Warning: Pedophilia, underage sexual assault, and other icky stuff

(Forgive me if I've gotten any of this mixed up. It was a while back, and I'm not keen to dig back in for details. Anyone who recalls more clearly, please feel free to correct this.)

Blindfold_spn had a pretty open "anything goes" policy for a long time. The mods were really dedicated to making the meme safe for kinkiness, and wouldn't let prompts be shamed for their kinks. It all went fairly well until two prompts happened: First, someone posted a prompt asking for an underage RPF story based on the Jerry Sandusky scandal, wanting one of the SPN actors to have been the victim of a similar crime. Second, a prompt was made asking for a story where Misha was "grooming" West sexually.

A lot of memers were, understandably, really upset, and felt that the prompt crossed the line from YKINMKATOK to "Your kink is hurting me and we should draw the line here." Initially the mods said that the Sandusky prompt, which came first, was okay, standing by the idea that the meme was a place to explore kinks without getting yelled at.

It was somewhere at this point that the West prompt was posted. It's not clear if it was a troll prompt, trying to make a point about what the rules would allow if they stood, or an actual prompt inspired by the Sandusky prompt.

The mods pretty soon changed their minds about the underage prompts, and put in a rule that disallowed underage RPF prompts. But the discussion really divided the meme. Posters kept posting more and more outrageous prompts that adhered to the letter of the rules while being as offensive as possible, or posted prompts that were simply offensive and hurtful. (It's possible that this was when the West prompt showed up, instead of earlier.) When the round ended, the mods decided it wasn't worth keeping the meme open for any more rounds.

So, in short, even if the prompt was trolling, someone decided that using someone's infant in a horrible prompt was okay in order to score points.

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	alcesx2 2013-01-17 04:09 pm UTC (link)
	That's what I was expecting, too. I wanted come in here and brag that I called it in the last SPN post. That being said, anyone who hates on a two year old based on who his dad is a vile human being and should be launched into the sun. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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