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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-04-28 15:08:00


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Entry tags:godwin alert, person: anne rice

Decoupaging the text from the wrong perspective?
A blogger buys a used, beat-up copy of Anne Rice's Pandora, ends up not liking it, and decides to get crafty with it. (Well, she also says, "Don’t be mad at me, even if Pandora really is one of the worst Anne Rice novels then it’s still better written than Twilight. Just not by as much as you think.")

Anne Rice finds out.

Anne Rice links to the blog on her Facebook.

You know what happens next.


HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE SHITTY ASS STEPHANIE MEYER TO THE QUALITY WORK THAT IS ANNE RICE HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

INSANE. To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do. An opinion is an opinion, but to do that… loved the rich descriptive narrative and historical context and character development (the other reason I read them).

Disgraceful.

This review is garbage. If you get this emotional then you are not reviewing a book, you are having a mental breakdown. I am left wondering not what is not right about the novel by Anne Rice, but what is mentally wrong with the
  [next comment] Person who wrote this tripe of a review.

“I couldn’t simply write my opinion I had to be a destructive little shit aren’t i awesome?”


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED - GODWIN'S LAW:

"Jose": My dear: Even if you dont like a book i dont get why you have to destroy it, Nazi memories perhaps?

Miss Articulate, the OP: The book was dying anyway, it would have been thrown away if I’d given it to a charity shop and I clearly underestimated the offense people would take. Relating it to Nazi’s is incredibly disrespectful to what people went through during WW2, including my own family so please don’t throw that around. Thanks for the comment.

Jose: It’s merely stating that destroying books is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal? I respected your apology for offence caused, but that is yet another petty, attention-seeking remark. Did anyone refer to the other horrors the Nazis did? No. Therefore your response is irrelevant.


And there's so much more where that came from.

ETA from sandglass: "The Facebook link itself is worth looking at, too. Rice is replying to comments as well."




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[info]cinnamonical
2013-04-28 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Therefore your response is irrelevant.

Iiiii'm pretty sure you had the OP beat to "irrelevant Nazi references", Jose.

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 12:10 am UTC (link)
... I really can't get behind the OP doing that to a book. I hate Twilight, and I wouldn't do that to it... so.. yeah, no.

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[info]sandglass
2013-04-29 12:35 am UTC (link)
The Facebook link itself is worth looking at, too. Rice is replying to comments as well.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-04-29 01:09 am UTC (link)
I can only go "what" at Jose. WHAT.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2013-04-29 01:25 am UTC (link)
Good grief.

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[info]the__ivorytower
2013-04-29 01:26 am UTC (link)
I want to know more about her paper crafts.

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[info]amaresu
2013-04-29 01:37 am UTC (link)
I'm a bit jealous of her nice edges on the box. I tried doing an Alice (from Batwoman) box of similar design once and the edges just never looked very nice.

I don't know why I'm surprised by Anne Rice's behavior anymore.

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[info]themadscientist
2013-04-29 02:38 am UTC (link)
Oh I missed Anne Rice wank <3

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[info]spacelogic
2013-04-29 03:43 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one who was expecting the crafting project to be a bit more... dramatic? I don't know, it was almost a letdown for me to see that functional-looking object to which its previous book life was so obviously irrelevant.

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-04-29 04:09 am UTC (link)
Anne Rice is interrogating this crafting project from the wrong perspective.

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[info]bobafeis
2013-04-29 04:23 am UTC (link)
Considering that most mass-market paperbacks will eventually make their way to the recycle bin/landfill (when they fall apart, if they're lucky; when the bookstore needs more shelf space if they're not), I'd actually be kinda honored if I wrote a book and someone preserved parts of it like this.

I wonder what would happen if I were to (theoretically, mind; I'm not about to troll the wank) tell these people what happens to all those books in the bookstore that no one buys? And point out that many bookstores will order more copies of books from popular authors than they are likely to sell, just so they will be sure to always have some in stock?

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[info]hosta
2013-04-29 05:41 am UTC (link)
I'm merely stating that eating cheese is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal?

I'm merely stating that using toilets is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal?


It probably makes me a terrible person that I'm having so much fun with this offensively oblivious statement, but....man. Man.

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[info]seca
2013-04-29 05:59 am UTC (link)
Love that Anne Rice decided to take the blogger's profile summary and put it up on her Facebook in a comment, just so it can be mocked by sycophants. Such a classy lady. /sarcasm

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[info]seca
2013-04-29 06:33 am UTC (link)
Hate to double post but I saw this comment by Anne Rice on her FB felt it was worth sharing: Thanks, guys for a spirited discussion. I think reviews negative and positive are good food for discussion. And I hope Miss Articulate is pleased with the numbers who have discovered her blog.

So Anne is just helping people find her blog.

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[info]feenix
2013-04-29 07:04 am UTC (link)
So wait.

If a blogger says that she made art out of one of Anne Rice's books (and that she felt no shame whatsoever because it kind of sucked)...

...and Anne Rice herself got all huffy and posted it to her Facebook page with the implicit intent of siccing her fanpoodles on said blogger...

...does this mean that Anne Rice is interrogating the text (art) from the wrong perspective?

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[info]badger
2013-04-29 07:04 am UTC (link)
Is it bad that all I can think is it used to be that when Anne Rice put out a new book, you couldn't walk into a bookstore without being confronted with 8000 copies of it, But I've never even heard of this book till now? Of course, I'm not an Anne Rice fan either, but I spend a fair amount of time in bookstores, and this is the first time I've ever heard of it/seen it.

And I agree with the people who pointed out what happens to old/unsold books in libraries and bookstores. You want desecration, I once saw a box for sale on Etsy that the author had cut up a copy of 'The Diary of Anne Frank' and randomly pasted sentences in no particular order. Now THAT was upsetting.

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[info]sailorcoruscant
2013-04-29 07:42 am UTC (link)
I have a couple of battered Anne Rice books that I picked up for almost nothing secondhand (or maybe eighth-hand, given the condition of them). I feel an art project, or possibly a bonfire, coming on.

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[info]puipui
2013-04-29 07:56 am UTC (link)
YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

Herpes? Really? You have all the time in the world to come up with something good, and you come up with herpes?

That's just sad.

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[info]taterbird
2013-04-29 03:10 pm UTC (link)
Wait, is Pandora post "Anne Rice has no editor, Anne Rice needs no editor"? If that's the case, than Ms. Articulate didn't do anything to the novel that Anne Rice's editor wouldn't have done.

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[info]metal_dog5
2013-04-29 03:59 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Makes me glad I didn't have a blog when I tried to read Pandora. Or when I tried again a few years later after reading some brilliant fanfic based on the book. I can only imagine what would have happened if I mentioned the fanfic portrayal of the characters was far superior in every way than what's in the book.

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2013-04-29 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Anne Rice links to the blog on her Facebook.

I grinned when I read this. Oh Anne Rice, you beautiful wank fountain you.

I have to say, the OP did a good job of keeping her composure in the face of all those unexpected flames. And lol @ all the people freaking out about the OP creatively recycling a book that would have ended up in the landfill anyway.

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[info]staroverthebay
2013-04-29 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Man, I think I'd personally rather have text from a book I *LIKE* on the outside of something like that. Like, if one of my copies of Watership Down finally got too dogeared to read properly (or parts of it got torn out and went missing, making rereading the whole novel impossible due to pieces being missing) that'd be a fitting and preserving end for that particular copy of my favorite book. I can't quite see the sense in using something I didn't enjoy the first time around.

Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding the artistry of the craft, though. *shrug*

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[info]argylespy
2013-04-30 01:26 am UTC (link)
I love all the comments saying that she can't judge Anne Rice as an author based on her later books because apparently even her fans think they're terrible and she can only be judged on her early books because they're the GOOD books.

Or something?

(I dunno, I tried to read Interview and got bored and kinda skeeved out before Louis even got turned.)

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2013-05-01 06:00 pm UTC

[info]duraniedrama
2013-04-30 03:08 am UTC (link)
I gotta say, this gal is showing some amazing grace under pressure. I could only hope to be that gracious when confronted with a slavering horde of fanpoodles.

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[info]tehrin
2013-04-30 08:09 am UTC (link)
If you get this emotional then you are not reviewing a book, you are having a mental breakdown.

But getting this emotional over another reader's review you didn't like must mean you're having a brain aneurysm is perfectly normal and acceptable behavior.

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