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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-04-28 15:08:00


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Entry tags:godwin alert, person: anne rice

Decoupaging the text from the wrong perspective?
A blogger buys a used, beat-up copy of Anne Rice's Pandora, ends up not liking it, and decides to get crafty with it. (Well, she also says, "Don’t be mad at me, even if Pandora really is one of the worst Anne Rice novels then it’s still better written than Twilight. Just not by as much as you think.")

Anne Rice finds out.

Anne Rice links to the blog on her Facebook.

You know what happens next.


HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE SHITTY ASS STEPHANIE MEYER TO THE QUALITY WORK THAT IS ANNE RICE HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

INSANE. To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do. An opinion is an opinion, but to do that… loved the rich descriptive narrative and historical context and character development (the other reason I read them).

Disgraceful.

This review is garbage. If you get this emotional then you are not reviewing a book, you are having a mental breakdown. I am left wondering not what is not right about the novel by Anne Rice, but what is mentally wrong with the
  [next comment] Person who wrote this tripe of a review.

“I couldn’t simply write my opinion I had to be a destructive little shit aren’t i awesome?”


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED - GODWIN'S LAW:

"Jose": My dear: Even if you dont like a book i dont get why you have to destroy it, Nazi memories perhaps?

Miss Articulate, the OP: The book was dying anyway, it would have been thrown away if I’d given it to a charity shop and I clearly underestimated the offense people would take. Relating it to Nazi’s is incredibly disrespectful to what people went through during WW2, including my own family so please don’t throw that around. Thanks for the comment.

Jose: It’s merely stating that destroying books is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal? I respected your apology for offence caused, but that is yet another petty, attention-seeking remark. Did anyone refer to the other horrors the Nazis did? No. Therefore your response is irrelevant.


And there's so much more where that came from.

ETA from sandglass: "The Facebook link itself is worth looking at, too. Rice is replying to comments as well."




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[info]varethane
2013-04-30 05:03 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, the blogger's reply to her first comment is great. XD

[...] I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

Hi, are you real? Or are you a troll? Thanks for the comment :D


I know at that point there woulda been genuine uncertainty as to where the frothing ragemachine had come from, but it's a great response anyway. XD

Although, considering that it WAS the very first comment on the entry.... how quickly did Rice find it after it went up? o_O Has she been obsessively tracking all references to her name via Google Alerts or something, and pounced on the blog the second it went up? It looks like none of Ms. Articulate's own followers got a chance to chime in first XD;;

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[info]lissibith
2013-04-30 07:18 pm UTC (link)
...

*Puts on tl;dr rantypants*

Would you read breaking dawn and not read the first books of the Twilight Series first? And if you read the book would it stand on its own the same way it would if you read the series in order. If you don’t like reading things in order, why would you read a book that is clearly part of a series of books, that requires the reader to read other books in order to fully appreciate the story being told. You are a silly woman for writing a blog like this and not expecting critique.

...

YES! Yes, if I were inclined to read Twilight and Breaking Dawn were the only book available at the library or on my friends' throwing away pile or whatever, I'd totally read it first.

I read the second Harry Potter book first. The THIRD Dark Tower book first. I not only didn't start at book 1 in Discworld, I didn't even start with the first book of the particular series I was reading in (the Night's Watch). And they've all become major favorite books of mine. Circle of Magic? The Princess series from Hines? McGuire's Toby Daye books? I think I start fewer series with book 1 than I do in other places.

I've also started with book 3 of True Blood, and book 11 (heaven help me) of the Mary Russel books. And while these books didn't grab me, they were still understandable as complete works which explained within their covers everything I might need to know to understand that particular volume.

I just... I don't get this idea that a book should not be expected to stand more or less on its own.

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-04-30 07:24 pm UTC (link)
I didn't think this book was even in a trilogy or something. The person yelling is doing the equivalent of getting angry that someone read Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express before The Mysterious Affair at Styles.

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2013-04-30 09:30 pm UTC
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[info]varethane
2013-04-30 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Honestly if I'd started reading the Dresden Files from book 1, I doubt I'd have bothered with the others-- or I might have read up to book 2 or 3 but then gotten tired of how repetitive they were (relative to each other) and dropped the series.

...But, I started with Dead Beat (which I think is book... 5? Or so? too lazy to google), and it grabbed me enough to make me want to read ALL of the others. Giving me the patience to get through the first three, which I still found tedious, just so I could find out how things had gotten to the point they were at in the first one I'd read.

(I still think Dead Beat is the high point of that series. I mean, zombie t-rex</a>. ZOMBIE T-REX.)

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(no subject) - [info]cinnamonical, 2013-04-30 10:25 pm UTC
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[info]herdivineshadow
2013-04-30 10:16 pm UTC (link)
I wonder what order they would read the Narnia books in.

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[info]sandglass
2013-05-01 05:03 am UTC (link)
High five reading the second Harry Potter book first! Somehow I didn't know it was the second book, though, and found it confusing.

There are some series that need to be read in order, and that's a valid choice because hey, I could do without books feeling like they need to recap all the time, but I'm really guessing that Anne Rice isn't one of them. And if it is one of those series and you're not stamping it with big numbers to let people know, the fail is on you.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-05-01 07:15 am UTC (link)
When it came time for me to read the Pern series (as research, back when Pern was The In Thing for MUSHes), I pushed all the fantasy romances aside and started with Dragonsdawn, the entirely science-fictional account of the colonization and first Threadfall.

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[info]stardust_rain
2013-05-02 06:50 am UTC (link)
I started with Prisoner of Azkaban in the HP series. And if I started reading Discworld with Colour of Magic or The Light Fantastic I never would've given it another chance.

I read Moving Pictures first, but wasn't impressed, then Jingo first a few years later and was hooked. Then Men At Arms, then Feet of Clay, Night Watch, Thud!, Fifth Elephant and Snuff...in that order. STILL haven't finished Guards! Guards!, even though I started ages ago.

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[info]adverb
2013-05-02 09:33 am UTC (link)
The very first Diana Wynne Jones book I read was The Crown of Dalemark. Which happened to be the fourth book in a quartet (although, to be fair, the books were more in the same universe than directly following each other). I got lost on a few points (Hildy, mostly, and Ynen and all their backstory, that confused the crap outta me), but I followed the plot and enjoyed it too - I still like to reread it, and I'll admit I've never made it through Cart & Cwidder or the Spellcoats because I want them to have more Mitt (Moril and the Undying? Whatevs bro).

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(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2013-05-07 04:28 pm UTC

[info]perletwo
2013-05-04 03:08 am UTC (link)
You know, I think you probably could read just Breaking Dawn and get the gist of what you need to know to follow it at least by the end of the first half.

First book, Edward+Bella=4eva, established in wedding sequence, check; Cullens' relationships to each other, established in wedding sequence, check; some vamps have extra powers, covered throughout, check. Second book: werewolves vs. vamps 4eva, covered in pregnancy sequence, check; edward is wildly overprotective, covered in pregnancy sequence, check; Volturi really creepy mean Vampire Lawgivers, covered in wedding and trial sequences, check. Third book: newborn vamps super-strong, covered when Bella wakes up, check; Volturi really creepy mean etc., see above; vampires are lifetime pair-bonders, check.

All you really wind up losing is the James/Victoria stuff and the high school stuff, and really, does anyone need any of that?

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[info]annathepiper
2013-05-01 04:14 am UTC (link)
I'm stunned! The Mary Sue has picked up this story!

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[info]froggimus_rex
2013-05-01 09:34 am UTC (link)
I kind of adore how the main line of defence of Rice from the commenters there is that she's too stupid naive in the ways of the internets to possibly have realised what was going to happen when she posted the link, with a good dose of "I think you will find it is YOU who are the bullies!" to anyone who suggests otherwise.

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(no subject) - [info]shatfat, 2013-09-19 06:43 pm UTC

[info]jaseroque
2013-05-01 12:53 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, so many idiots in the comments. SO MANY.

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[info]eevee
2013-05-01 01:23 pm UTC (link)
And all her fans have the same self-absorbed, overly dramatic writing style as hers!
I'm sad that Disqus has apparently decided to start loading for me. All in all it made my life better for a few months when I wasn't able to read any comments on most sites I went to...

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2013-05-01 09:35 pm UTC

[info]darksumomo
2013-05-02 07:29 am UTC (link)
And the very first comment links back to Red Beans Anne Rice here in f_w. Ah, the streams are crossing!

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(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2013-05-03 02:00 am UTC

[info]msmanna
2013-05-01 04:52 am UTC (link)
Wow. I thought the poor blogger stayed very calm and classy (if somewhat baffled) in the face of extreme batshittery. Who knew decoupage could inspire such ragey rage?

On the plus side for Anne Rice, I foresee a big upsurge in her book sales caused by desperate attention-hungry bloggers.

"Look at me! I hand-crafted the Mayfair Witches series into toilet rolls! Buy two and get a bonus pack of Sleeping Beauty kitty litter!"

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[info]thebratqueen
2013-05-01 02:05 pm UTC (link)
I used to joke that the only acceptable way to interact with Anne's books, in Anne's mind, was to read them, never allow yourself to think your own thoughts about them, and put them right back on the shelf and never ever touch or otherwise interact with them ever again.

I never imagined she'd one day prove me right.

Bless the kids who think this is about Anne's integrity as an author or whatever. Five will get you ten that she's only pissed she didn't think of making decoupage items of her stuff first, so she could sell them at a 1000% markup from the going rate for such things.

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-05-01 06:00 pm UTC (link)
I wish I could believe Anne Rice was that motivated by money. Unfortunately, I think she is a walking ego in a black wig.

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[info]singe
2013-05-01 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I like to think that if my writing were to become famous that I wouldn't act like an frothing ego-ridden hysteric. Who else is having Oh, what a cool author I'D be! fantasies?

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[info]crapweasel
2013-05-01 09:49 pm UTC (link)
To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do.

Making decoupage out of a book is worse than genocide, guys. Don't do it.

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[info]redcoast
2013-05-02 03:53 am UTC (link)
I think I'd be honored if someone made art out of something I'd written.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2013-05-03 07:41 am UTC

[info]reeve
2013-05-02 06:48 am UTC (link)
Wow, so I come here for the first time in ages and ages, and there's so many familiar faces, and oh look, Anne Rice wank, right there at the top of the main page. It's like I never left o_o;

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[info]coffeebun
2013-05-02 05:48 pm UTC (link)
I feel like I've been thrown back to 2004 eeeee <3

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[info]tinybubbles
2013-05-05 12:26 am UTC (link)
To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do

I can think of worse fates for a book. What about the poor guy who wrote the phone book? How do you think he feels knowing how many of his books will end up in an outhouse?

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(no subject) - [info]mercutia, 2013-05-19 11:44 pm UTC

[info]icarusancalion
2013-06-28 07:55 am UTC (link)
I don't know why she's so upset. You can still read it on the decopage.

Sort of.

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