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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-04-28 15:08:00


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Entry tags:godwin alert, person: anne rice

Decoupaging the text from the wrong perspective?
A blogger buys a used, beat-up copy of Anne Rice's Pandora, ends up not liking it, and decides to get crafty with it. (Well, she also says, "Don’t be mad at me, even if Pandora really is one of the worst Anne Rice novels then it’s still better written than Twilight. Just not by as much as you think.")

Anne Rice finds out.

Anne Rice links to the blog on her Facebook.

You know what happens next.


HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE SHITTY ASS STEPHANIE MEYER TO THE QUALITY WORK THAT IS ANNE RICE HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

INSANE. To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do. An opinion is an opinion, but to do that… loved the rich descriptive narrative and historical context and character development (the other reason I read them).

Disgraceful.

This review is garbage. If you get this emotional then you are not reviewing a book, you are having a mental breakdown. I am left wondering not what is not right about the novel by Anne Rice, but what is mentally wrong with the
  [next comment] Person who wrote this tripe of a review.

“I couldn’t simply write my opinion I had to be a destructive little shit aren’t i awesome?”


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED - GODWIN'S LAW:

"Jose": My dear: Even if you dont like a book i dont get why you have to destroy it, Nazi memories perhaps?

Miss Articulate, the OP: The book was dying anyway, it would have been thrown away if I’d given it to a charity shop and I clearly underestimated the offense people would take. Relating it to Nazi’s is incredibly disrespectful to what people went through during WW2, including my own family so please don’t throw that around. Thanks for the comment.

Jose: It’s merely stating that destroying books is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal? I respected your apology for offence caused, but that is yet another petty, attention-seeking remark. Did anyone refer to the other horrors the Nazis did? No. Therefore your response is irrelevant.


And there's so much more where that came from.

ETA from sandglass: "The Facebook link itself is worth looking at, too. Rice is replying to comments as well."



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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 12:10 am UTC (link)
... I really can't get behind the OP doing that to a book. I hate Twilight, and I wouldn't do that to it... so.. yeah, no.

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[info]bienegold
2013-04-29 12:15 am UTC (link)
I've seen some truly amazing and beautiful book art, but there's always this niggling horror no matter how great it is.

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[info]cleolinda
2013-04-29 12:26 am UTC (link)
I get kind of itchy when it's a vintage book and there's no telling how few of them there are left. The rest of the time, I have that irrational sense of unease too, but yeah, mass-produced books.

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 02:13 am UTC (link)
This. I know it's mass produced, I know I shouldn't feel bad but... it just happens. Let's call it an irrational reaction and leave it at that.

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2013-04-29 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lied_ohne_worte, 2013-04-29 10:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2013-04-29 02:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2013-04-29 05:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_tean, 2013-04-30 06:37 am UTC

[info]tunxeh
2013-04-29 09:26 am UTC (link)
Now I'm tempted to turn Use Of Weapons into a chair for a double dose of horror. Good thing I know nothing of furniture craft, I suppose.

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(no subject) - [info]visp, 2013-05-02 06:53 am UTC
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[info]sandglass
2013-04-29 12:24 am UTC (link)
I don't get this response for mass produced books. You can get it on Amazon for $7 ($3 for the Kindle version!), it's not like she's preventing anyone from reading it.

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 02:15 am UTC (link)
I admit it's totally irrational on my part. It's the same for any book, even the ones I don't like. I just don't like to see books getting destroyed, even if they're a dime a dozen and absolute crap.

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[info]major_dallas
2013-04-29 03:45 pm UTC (link)
"in the pursuit of art, the only thing that is forbidden is not pursuing it"...at least that's what one of my more artistic friends told me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in High School, seemed legit...

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(no subject) - [info]visp, 2013-05-02 06:56 am UTC

[info]perletwo
2013-04-29 11:52 pm UTC (link)
One Christmas my sister was horrified to discover my mom had spraypainted a hardback book gold and tied a ribbon around it for a decoration.

'It's a Reader's Digest Condensed Book,' mom defended herself.

'Oh! It's not a real book. That's okay then.' :D

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(no subject) - [info]ellensmithee, 2013-04-30 10:36 am UTC

[info]keri
2013-04-29 01:10 am UTC (link)
In that case you really don't want to know what happens to books that don't get sold at many (most?) bookstores, or what libraries do to books that have to be removed from the shelves.

I used to get uneasy about it, but then I started working in a contemporary art museum and attended a few semesters of library school. Also, I dabble in book art myself now. :P

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 02:17 am UTC (link)
No, I don't want to know.

Maybe, as I type answers to everyone about this, is that, at least for me, getting certain books is very hard and involve international shipping. And that when I was younger, I was raised from a very young age to take care of books. So yes, it's irrational, and I'm sure there's a lot of wonderful book art and great things done with books that other wise would be trashed... but I still have this uneasy, irrational feeling that makes me feel horrible that a book was destroyed.

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[info]meagenimage
2013-04-29 12:03 pm UTC (link)
In that case you really don't want to know what happens to books that don't get sold at many (most?) bookstores, or what libraries do to books that have to be removed from the shelves.

They go to a nice comfortable farm personal library with a kindly old man who takes good care of them, right...?

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(no subject) - [info]roachspit, 2013-04-29 07:51 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2013-04-29 02:34 pm UTC (link)
I used to know a bookseller who returned the stripped covers, as you do, then donated the stripped books to the local prison. I like to think he also took a tax deduction on them.

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(no subject) - [info]keri, 2013-04-30 02:43 am UTC
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[info]librarianmouse
2013-04-30 04:39 am UTC (link)
Or, in fact, what libraries do with some of the books people donate. (Really? Travel guides and computer manuals from the early 90s? What am I supposed to do with those?!)

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-04-29 01:40 am UTC (link)
Why? It's just a bunch of paper, and it's far from a rare book. She's using it for something rather than it becoming landfill.

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 02:18 am UTC (link)
Absolute irrational response to the idea of destroying books. My fault, not the OP or the girl who did it.

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[info]ereshkigal
2013-04-29 01:41 am UTC (link)
At least she's recycling it instead of burning it.

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[info]luxshine
2013-04-29 02:19 am UTC (link)
Oh, absolutely!

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[info]taterbird
2013-04-29 03:05 pm UTC (link)
In all fairness, it's kinder than the regular wear-and-tear my students put on their textbooks. (And we're stuck with those for sixteen years. I started teaching last year, and this is year thirteen. They're being held together by the will of God and book tape now. Possibly also blood sacrifice on the part of the school librarian.) Let's not even get into what they do to the paperback practice workbooks that were also supposed to magically last for sixteen years.

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[info]themadscientist
2013-04-29 03:38 pm UTC (link)
I break out in hives at even the thought of highlightting or marking in textbooks so~oo~oo

That said - it bugs me less now that we are moving digital. I just wouldn't ever do such to my books.

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2013-04-29 09:23 pm UTC (link)
I'd feel that way if she'd burned it or thrown it away (I can't imagine destroying any book, even one I hated), but since she gave it new life as an art project, I can't bring myself to mind. Hey, the book arts folks have to get their materials from somewhere.

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[info]dejla
2013-04-30 01:24 am UTC (link)
It's a mass market paperback. It's going to be pulped if it doesn't sell. It's going to make its way down the used book tree and get more and more battered.

It's not the American Flag. It's not the Koran. It's not the Gutenberg Bible.

Recycling it actually saved the book. Its words are still out there, protected by glue.

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[info]duraniedrama
2013-05-01 01:40 am UTC (link)
I get the reluctance to destroy a book, but given it was already doing it to itself (there were pages falling out before she even got to it with the scalpel) I don't see the harm in recovering the pages to make use of them.

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[info]soc_puppet
2013-05-01 06:15 am UTC (link)
...Does it count if you're making the art for a library fundraiser? Because I may have done exactly that to a library discard copy of Twilight. (For those not squicked by the destruction and craftifying of books: I named her Mary-Sue; IIRC, she raised $50 USD for the library.)

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[info]luxshine
2013-05-01 07:45 pm UTC (link)
Nope, it's still icky for me. Again, as I said upthread. It's irrational. I don't want to call it a trigger, since that would've disrespectful for people with triggers, but it's very damn close to a phobia and I can't tell you how 'glad' I am that everyone in the thread decided to put me right and tell me about all those destroyed books daily.

Rationally, I understand everything you guys pro-book art are saying. But deep down? The only thing I can see is that in my country, my own president is functionally illiterate, people don't read more than 3 books a year average -which means a lot of people don't read, period- and that getting certain books is impossible down here. So yeah, even if it's a very old and battered mass produced book by an author I despise (Seriously, I can't stand Ann Rice's prose)... it makes me sick to my stomach.

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(no subject) - [info]atalantapendrag, 2013-05-01 08:42 pm UTC

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