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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-04-28 15:08:00
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Entry tags:godwin alert, person: anne rice

Decoupaging the text from the wrong perspective?
A blogger buys a used, beat-up copy of Anne Rice's Pandora, ends up not liking it, and decides to get crafty with it. (Well, she also says, "Don’t be mad at me, even if Pandora really is one of the worst Anne Rice novels then it’s still better written than Twilight. Just not by as much as you think.")

Anne Rice finds out.

Anne Rice links to the blog on her Facebook.

You know what happens next.


HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE SHITTY ASS STEPHANIE MEYER TO THE QUALITY WORK THAT IS ANNE RICE HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING HAG, I HOPE YOU GET HERPES

INSANE. To destroy a book like that is honestly the most disrespectful, idiotic thing anyone could ever do. An opinion is an opinion, but to do that… loved the rich descriptive narrative and historical context and character development (the other reason I read them).

Disgraceful.

This review is garbage. If you get this emotional then you are not reviewing a book, you are having a mental breakdown. I am left wondering not what is not right about the novel by Anne Rice, but what is mentally wrong with the  [next comment] Person who wrote this tripe of a review.

“I couldn’t simply write my opinion I had to be a destructive little shit aren’t i awesome?”


ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED - GODWIN'S LAW:

"Jose": My dear: Even if you dont like a book i dont get why you have to destroy it, Nazi memories perhaps?

Miss Articulate, the OP: The book was dying anyway, it would have been thrown away if I’d given it to a charity shop and I clearly underestimated the offense people would take. Relating it to Nazi’s is incredibly disrespectful to what people went through during WW2, including my own family so please don’t throw that around. Thanks for the comment.

Jose: It’s merely stating that destroying books is one of the things Nazis did, why get so personal? I respected your apology for offence caused, but that is yet another petty, attention-seeking remark. Did anyone refer to the other horrors the Nazis did? No. Therefore your response is irrelevant.


And there's so much more where that came from.

ETA from sandglass: "The Facebook link itself is worth looking at, too. Rice is replying to comments as well."


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[info]lissibith
2013-04-30 07:18 pm UTC (link)
...

*Puts on tl;dr rantypants*

Would you read breaking dawn and not read the first books of the Twilight Series first? And if you read the book would it stand on its own the same way it would if you read the series in order. If you don’t like reading things in order, why would you read a book that is clearly part of a series of books, that requires the reader to read other books in order to fully appreciate the story being told. You are a silly woman for writing a blog like this and not expecting critique.

...

YES! Yes, if I were inclined to read Twilight and Breaking Dawn were the only book available at the library or on my friends' throwing away pile or whatever, I'd totally read it first.

I read the second Harry Potter book first. The THIRD Dark Tower book first. I not only didn't start at book 1 in Discworld, I didn't even start with the first book of the particular series I was reading in (the Night's Watch). And they've all become major favorite books of mine. Circle of Magic? The Princess series from Hines? McGuire's Toby Daye books? I think I start fewer series with book 1 than I do in other places.

I've also started with book 3 of True Blood, and book 11 (heaven help me) of the Mary Russel books. And while these books didn't grab me, they were still understandable as complete works which explained within their covers everything I might need to know to understand that particular volume.

I just... I don't get this idea that a book should not be expected to stand more or less on its own.

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-04-30 07:24 pm UTC (link)
I didn't think this book was even in a trilogy or something. The person yelling is doing the equivalent of getting angry that someone read Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express before The Mysterious Affair at Styles.

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[info]puipui
2013-04-30 09:30 pm UTC (link)
Both of which are exponentially better books, which in turn would make for much better decoupage because who wants bunch of crap covered in really bad Anne Rice when they could have art covered in really good Agatha Christie?

(I'd prefer artwork made of The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, though, although not with the spoilery bits at the end that might give something away, because I like the look on people's faces when they get to who the murderer is.)

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[info]ekaterinv
2013-04-30 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Agatha Christie decoupage would rock. But the endings would always have to be left out. Of course, then I'd end up reading the items instead of doing anything else...

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[info]sepiamagpie
2013-04-30 10:37 pm UTC (link)
God, when I realized, it was like, OH MY GOD. Well-played, Madame Christie. Well-played.

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[info]singe
2013-05-01 06:10 pm UTC (link)
THAT WAS SPOILED ON A RECENT PBS DOCUMENTARY OF CHRISTIE AND THANK GOD I'D ALREADY READ IT! Spoiled at length, too, those bastards, to make a point about what a rebel Christie was. I almost got a nosebleed.

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[info]varethane
2013-04-30 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Honestly if I'd started reading the Dresden Files from book 1, I doubt I'd have bothered with the others-- or I might have read up to book 2 or 3 but then gotten tired of how repetitive they were (relative to each other) and dropped the series.

...But, I started with Dead Beat (which I think is book... 5? Or so? too lazy to google), and it grabbed me enough to make me want to read ALL of the others. Giving me the patience to get through the first three, which I still found tedious, just so I could find out how things had gotten to the point they were at in the first one I'd read.

(I still think Dead Beat is the high point of that series. I mean, zombie t-rex</a>. ZOMBIE T-REX.)

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[info]cinnamonical
2013-04-30 10:25 pm UTC (link)
Yep, I started with Dead Beat too, which is book 7. NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER. To date it's the only book of the series I've re-read, although I own up to Small Favor.

(This recent interview with Butcher actually has him saying that Dead Beat was tied with another story as being his favorite book he's written so far.)

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[info]kita0610
2013-05-01 01:28 am UTC (link)
Yeah, Dead Beat is where Butcher found his voice and rhythm for sure.

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[info]sandglass
2013-05-01 05:05 am UTC (link)
Zombie t-rex? Okay, gonna go find a copy of that book and give Dresden Files another chance.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2013-05-02 03:44 am UTC (link)
Not just any T.rex either, but Sue!

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[info]rosehiptea
2013-05-01 07:40 pm UTC (link)
I read the first one and never made it through the second. (Or was it the first two and I never made it through the third?) But maybe I need to try Dead Beat too.

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[info]jaina
2013-05-02 05:07 pm UTC (link)
I started with Small Favor, not knowing it was #10 in the series, and when I went and read the first book I was like "WHERE IS EVERYBODY? And why is Murphy being so mean?"

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[info]perletwo
2013-05-04 03:00 am UTC (link)
Excuse me. Any old book can have a zombie T-rex. This one has a zombie T-rex powered by oompah drumming. It wins. Everything.

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[info]herdivineshadow
2013-04-30 10:16 pm UTC (link)
I wonder what order they would read the Narnia books in.

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[info]tofuknight
2013-05-01 01:18 am UTC (link)
I can hear Narnia-fen arguing as we speak. :D

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[info]cairea
2013-05-04 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Truefax: Narnia-fen come through my store and rearrange the books on the shelves according to their particular preferred order several times a day. It used to irritate me (I just fixed those like half an hour ago!). Now if I bother to do more than make sure all the like titles are together on the shelf I alphabetize them by title. It makes about as much sense as some people's preferred orders and is in line with company shelving guidelines.

Other series customers have unexpected Opinions about: Twilight, The Vampire Diaries, The Inheritance Cycle (which, according to customers, goes mostly in order only Eldest comes before Eragon) and The Dark is Rising sequence.

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[info]sandglass
2013-05-01 05:03 am UTC (link)
High five reading the second Harry Potter book first! Somehow I didn't know it was the second book, though, and found it confusing.

There are some series that need to be read in order, and that's a valid choice because hey, I could do without books feeling like they need to recap all the time, but I'm really guessing that Anne Rice isn't one of them. And if it is one of those series and you're not stamping it with big numbers to let people know, the fail is on you.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-05-01 07:15 am UTC (link)
When it came time for me to read the Pern series (as research, back when Pern was The In Thing for MUSHes), I pushed all the fantasy romances aside and started with Dragonsdawn, the entirely science-fictional account of the colonization and first Threadfall.

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[info]stardust_rain
2013-05-02 06:50 am UTC (link)
I started with Prisoner of Azkaban in the HP series. And if I started reading Discworld with Colour of Magic or The Light Fantastic I never would've given it another chance.

I read Moving Pictures first, but wasn't impressed, then Jingo first a few years later and was hooked. Then Men At Arms, then Feet of Clay, Night Watch, Thud!, Fifth Elephant and Snuff...in that order. STILL haven't finished Guards! Guards!, even though I started ages ago.

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[info]adverb
2013-05-02 09:26 am UTC (link)
So agreed on Discworld. I actually started with Colour of Magic, got about ten pages in and put it down (I still haven't read it). I liked the writing style, though, so I picked up Wyrd Sisters a while later. I enjoyed the witches books and started making my way slowly through them, interspersed with some of the stand-alones. And then I came across Men At Arms, and I read all the of the Night's Watch books that were out then in less than a week.

(I pretty much only reread Vimes books and Moist von Lipwig books now.)

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[info]beccastareyes
2013-05-04 05:58 am UTC (link)
Heck, when I was starting reading Discworld, most of the earlier books were not in print in the States, so I started with Interesting Times and just went with it.

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[info]adverb
2013-05-02 09:33 am UTC (link)
The very first Diana Wynne Jones book I read was The Crown of Dalemark. Which happened to be the fourth book in a quartet (although, to be fair, the books were more in the same universe than directly following each other). I got lost on a few points (Hildy, mostly, and Ynen and all their backstory, that confused the crap outta me), but I followed the plot and enjoyed it too - I still like to reread it, and I'll admit I've never made it through Cart & Cwidder or the Spellcoats because I want them to have more Mitt (Moril and the Undying? Whatevs bro).

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[info]tofuknight
2013-05-07 04:28 pm UTC (link)
I did that with Patricia C. Wrede's [Verb] With Dragons series, the first of which is Dealing With Dragons. I read the third first, and liked it, but was ver confused.

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[info]perletwo
2013-05-04 03:08 am UTC (link)
You know, I think you probably could read just Breaking Dawn and get the gist of what you need to know to follow it at least by the end of the first half.

First book, Edward+Bella=4eva, established in wedding sequence, check; Cullens' relationships to each other, established in wedding sequence, check; some vamps have extra powers, covered throughout, check. Second book: werewolves vs. vamps 4eva, covered in pregnancy sequence, check; edward is wildly overprotective, covered in pregnancy sequence, check; Volturi really creepy mean Vampire Lawgivers, covered in wedding and trial sequences, check. Third book: newborn vamps super-strong, covered when Bella wakes up, check; Volturi really creepy mean etc., see above; vampires are lifetime pair-bonders, check.

All you really wind up losing is the James/Victoria stuff and the high school stuff, and really, does anyone need any of that?

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