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it looks like redcoats, but it isn't ([info]redcoast) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-05-05 16:34:00

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What happened to SPN's bi pride?
Jensen Ackles is rather famous for being uncomfortable discussing the homoerotic subtext of Supernatural, despite that this subtext is actually text. I mean, there was an episode where Dean and Sam went to a Supernatural fan convention with a panel called "The Homoerotic Subtext of Supernatural." (Yeah, that really happened. It's a weird show.) Also, he's been doing this for nine years, so come on, man.

Anyway ... hee. Sorry, I rewatched that video and I'm laughing at how accurate it is, except that the fans should be about 95% female.

Anyway, most of the notable cast members (Misha Collins, Jim Beaver, Mark Shepard, etc.) have proven to be open about discussing gay stuff, but Ackles is allergic to it or something and usually refuses to talk about it, perhaps because when he does talk about it, he's pretty much a dick.

At today's Creation Entertainment's Supernatural convention in New Jersey, a fan, first in line at the joint Jarpad/Jackles panel, asked a question that began, "I love your character becoming more comfortable with himself over the season. I'm bisexual and -- " at which point she was drowned out by boos and groans from the crowd. You can watch the exchange here:

Jensen replied, "I'm really confused. Really? The first question?" then something about the East Coast, then, "Don't ruin it for everybody, now." The fan replied, "I didn't mean it as disrespectful at all." Jensen: "I still don't know what the question was. I'm gonna pretend I don't know what the question was. So I'm gonna take my cue and move on."

The fan who recorded it writes:
I’m really upset about this. My response to the girl’s question was of exasperation which you can hear (I say “Aye Dios Mio.”) She DOES start asking about the subtext in the show. When I heard the crowd collectively booing though, I got really uncomfortable with my own response and also theirs. When I heard Jensen’s response, I was stunned into silence and didn’t record, take pics, or really even hear the questions for a bit.

You cannot see this in the video, but I was on the side the girl was on, very close. As soon as everyone starts booing, Clif [Jensen's bodyguard], who was standing right near her, goes up to her and began having a conversation with her. She stood to the side for a bit after she stepped away from the mic (which was right after she said “I meant no disrespect”) and I thought perhaps Clif had heard all of her question and was going to let her ask or she was going to ask a new question, but after a bit she walked away.

On the way out of the panel, my friend said she saw the girl in the ballroom, wiping at her face. I didn’t see her myself, but I don’t think you need to be a genius to guess she was upset.
Fans are shocked, both at the booing immediately following someone saying they're gay bi, and Jensen's response. There's some rather depressing replies like this (warning, autoplay music): "I feel like my heart is breaking. Being Bi was never something I thought I would dislike about myself, but this is just really uncomfortable for me. I just… I wish I didn’t read/watch this. I’d rather not know."

Not everyone is mad at Jensen. Some fans defend him, like this guy, who says she deserved it because she was told not to ask a shipping question and she asked a shipping question. And someone else said she should be slapped. Cue sarcasm:
OH NO. A STRAIGHT CIS MALE WAS MADE UNCOMFORTABLE AT THE PROSPECT THAT HIS CHARACTER MIGHT BE—GASP—A HOMOSEXUAL? Clearly we should dogpile and humiliate a young bisexual teenage girl. Because she obviously doesn’t know how hard it is to be a privileged white man in this day and age and will never know the discomfort of being mistaken for a dirty homoseuxal.
Calico-kat has some really interesting analysis of how Creation runs cons and asks why the show is can talk about Wincest fanfic during episodes but the fans are not allowed to ask about it? Or as she puts it, "Y U MAEK SHO U NO LET US TALK ABT SHO?"

Creation Con announces that there will be NO MORE SHIPPING QUESTIONS and anyone who defies this rule will be tackled by ninjas. Shipping is ruined now. YOU RUINED SHIPPING.

Turns out, the fan wasn't even asking about shipping. She wanted to ask Jensen if he would participate in the It Gets Better project. So that's depressing.

Edit: The consensus was that this wasn't funny. Sorry about that. I obviously made an error in judgment yesterday. Also, some people said this was triggering/upsetting with regards to bi/homophobia, so be warned.

Edit 2: holy shit. That's a nice painting.


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