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it looks like redcoats, but it isn't ([info]redcoast) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-05-05 16:34:00


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Entry tags:accuracy is for tools, at least no one's knotting, burn baby burn, cons, fandom: supernatural, homophobia, i hate you and i hate you, i swear i will turn this comm around, lost the lulz, mod has a headache, oh hurrah the daily dot, passive-aggression with tags, person: jensen ackles, sex police, still not funny, this is not funny, troll or dumbass?, tumblr is witchcraft, wanking inside the house, what the shit is this?

What happened to SPN's bi pride?
Jensen Ackles is rather famous for being uncomfortable discussing the homoerotic subtext of Supernatural, despite that this subtext is actually text. I mean, there was an episode where Dean and Sam went to a Supernatural fan convention with a panel called "The Homoerotic Subtext of Supernatural." (Yeah, that really happened. It's a weird show.) Also, he's been doing this for nine years, so come on, man.

Anyway ... hee. Sorry, I rewatched that video and I'm laughing at how accurate it is, except that the fans should be about 95% female.

Anyway, most of the notable cast members (Misha Collins, Jim Beaver, Mark Shepard, etc.) have proven to be open about discussing gay stuff, but Ackles is allergic to it or something and usually refuses to talk about it, perhaps because when he does talk about it, he's pretty much a dick.

At today's Creation Entertainment's Supernatural convention in New Jersey, a fan, first in line at the joint Jarpad/Jackles panel, asked a question that began, "I love your character becoming more comfortable with himself over the season. I'm bisexual and -- " at which point she was drowned out by boos and groans from the crowd. You can watch the exchange here:

Jensen replied, "I'm really confused. Really? The first question?" then something about the East Coast, then, "Don't ruin it for everybody, now." The fan replied, "I didn't mean it as disrespectful at all." Jensen: "I still don't know what the question was. I'm gonna pretend I don't know what the question was. So I'm gonna take my cue and move on."

The fan who recorded it writes:

I’m really upset about this. My response to the girl’s question was of exasperation which you can hear (I say “Aye Dios Mio.”) She DOES start asking about the subtext in the show. When I heard the crowd collectively booing though, I got really uncomfortable with my own response and also theirs. When I heard Jensen’s response, I was stunned into silence and didn’t record, take pics, or really even hear the questions for a bit.

You cannot see this in the video, but I was on the side the girl was on, very close. As soon as everyone starts booing, Clif [Jensen's bodyguard], who was standing right near her, goes up to her and began having a conversation with her. She stood to the side for a bit after she stepped away from the mic (which was right after she said “I meant no disrespect”) and I thought perhaps Clif had heard all of her question and was going to let her ask or she was going to ask a new question, but after a bit she walked away.

On the way out of the panel, my friend said she saw the girl in the ballroom, wiping at her face. I didn’t see her myself, but I don’t think you need to be a genius to guess she was upset.
Fans are shocked, both at the booing immediately following someone saying they're gay bi, and Jensen's response. There's some rather depressing replies like this (warning, autoplay music): "I feel like my heart is breaking. Being Bi was never something I thought I would dislike about myself, but this is just really uncomfortable for me. I just… I wish I didn’t read/watch this. I’d rather not know."

Not everyone is mad at Jensen. Some fans defend him, like this guy, who says she deserved it because she was told not to ask a shipping question and she asked a shipping question. And someone else said she should be slapped. Cue sarcasm:
OH NO. A STRAIGHT CIS MALE WAS MADE UNCOMFORTABLE AT THE PROSPECT THAT HIS CHARACTER MIGHT BE—GASP—A HOMOSEXUAL? Clearly we should dogpile and humiliate a young bisexual teenage girl. Because she obviously doesn’t know how hard it is to be a privileged white man in this day and age and will never know the discomfort of being mistaken for a dirty homoseuxal.
Calico-kat has some really interesting analysis of how Creation runs cons and asks why the show is can talk about Wincest fanfic during episodes but the fans are not allowed to ask about it? Or as she puts it, "Y U MAEK SHO U NO LET US TALK ABT SHO?"

Creation Con announces that there will be NO MORE SHIPPING QUESTIONS and anyone who defies this rule will be tackled by ninjas. Shipping is ruined now. YOU RUINED SHIPPING.

Turns out, the fan wasn't even asking about shipping. She wanted to ask Jensen if he would participate in the It Gets Better project. So that's depressing.

Edit: The consensus was that this wasn't funny. Sorry about that. I obviously made an error in judgment yesterday. Also, some people said this was triggering/upsetting with regards to bi/homophobia, so be warned.

Edit 2: holy shit. That's a nice painting.


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The great tradition.
[info]stardust_rain
2013-05-06 11:00 am UTC (link)
RECIPES PEOPLE, RECIPES. GIMME THE BEST COMFORT FOOD YOU GOT.

I've been on a health food kick recently but after a thoroughly shit day I am simply craving for the Peanut butter-banana-bacon sandwich. Heart attack on a plate but hnnggg, so good.


Also, thanks for giving me another reason to stay away from this clusterfuck of a show.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]lil_miss_stfu
2013-05-06 11:27 am UTC (link)
I was with you until you said bacon :(

Sub in some chocolate chips, though, and I'm right there. Maybe a sprinkling of brown sugar.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]stardust_rain
2013-05-06 11:35 am UTC (link)
For health reasons or taste reasons? I was highly doubtful about it at first as well, but it's surprisingly delicious. The salty/sweet taste is just right. But the oils and fat, sheesh...only once in a while.

Otherwise, when I DO want to be healthy, it's PB, strawberries, honey and cinnamon.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]jadeleopard
2013-05-06 10:04 pm UTC (link)
peanut butter, banana, and apricot preserves is my go to PB combo. Something about the apricot flavor really ties it together for me.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]shinysandals
2013-05-06 05:55 pm UTC (link)
New England Clam Chowder

(Note: This is altered a bit from a Top Secret Recipes clone of Red Lobster's chowder. I make this dairy-free because there are people in my house with really bad milk allergies -- just use half-and-half in place of the Silk creamer; I can never taste the difference.)

2 1/2 cups water
3 6.5-ounce cans minced clams (plus liquid)
1/2 cup all-purpose flour, or more if you like your chowder really thick
1 teaspoon dried parsley
1/2 teaspoon salt (or more to taste)
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 bay leaf
Dash dried thyme
2 white or red potatoes, peeled and diced
1 cup half-and-half or Silk creamer

1. Combine water and liquid drained from all 3 cans of clams in a large saucepan. Whisk in flour, parsley, salt, pepper, bay leaf, and thyme. Turn to medium heat.

2. When water begins to bubble, add the potatoes and simmer for 5 minutes. Stir often to keep the potatoes from sticking to the bottom of the pan.

3. Add the clams to the saucepan and simmer for 10 minutes, stirring often.

4. Add the creamer (or half-and-half) and simmer for an additional 5 minutes. Watch the pan carefully to be sure the chowder doesn’t bubble over. Turn down the heat if the soup begins to erupt.

I like to serve mine with a nice crusty bread.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]cyndra_falin
2013-05-06 08:10 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't call this comfort food but it does calm my mood sometimes. I call it a junk sandwich.

Take two pieces of bread. Slather both sides with mustard. Add two slices of cheese and then cover them with dill relish. Cut in half and eat!

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]jadeleopard
2013-05-06 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Ham Potato Casserole (I don't really measure)

a ham steak (pre-cooked, or follow standard microwave cooking instructions) (those 1/2 - 1 inch slices of ham, about 1 to 2 pounds)
a bag of frozen potatoes o' brien
shredded cheddar cheese, about 3 loose handfuls
a can of condensed cream of whatever soup (mushroom, chicken, broccoli, and potato have all been tried, none tasted any better or worse than the others)
sour cream, smallish container

Mix it all up and bake at 350 for about an hour. Reheats rather well, and is not even the tiniest bit good for you.

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Re: The great tradition.
[info]ghostmaster
2013-05-09 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Since we're on the topic in here, can I request some gluten free recipes? Recently found out my girlfriend has celiac disease and can't eat anything that was even within a couple feet of wheat, corn, or rice.

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