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themadscientist ([info]themadscientist) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-08-27 21:12:00
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Entry tags:fandom: mortal instruments, person: cassie clare, reviews

Cassandra Clare and the Panned Picture
When we last left out heroine she was leafing some thorny mahogany pickle to her partner-in-crime to go to her big movie premiere.

Well the first of the Mortal Instrument movies is out, ladies and gents!

While not doing terribly bad (Sony had nothing to lose apparently), it didn't exactly shine either taking in only $9 million through the weekend and $14 million at the moment.

So Cassie Claire, er, Clare, has had to do a wee bit of backpedaling.
Covered here but the important tweets are at the bottom.

You see, she didn't really have any control over the film and so if it bombs, it's the movie producer's fault. Nope, zero input on the whole dealio.

Will there be a sequel, given the budget versus the income? Will it matter? Who knows. Expect to see the Mortal Instruments t-shirts next month at your local Hot Topic and see Cassie Clare in her next adventure, Dancing With Wool!

(It could be wood again. Or Woof? Woozie? Dancing With Who?)


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[info]life_on_mars
2013-08-28 09:16 am UTC (link)
Isn't it pretty standard crappy-author behaviour? "If you loved it, it's because I'm a great author; if you hated it, it's because it was ruined by the editors." It would be nice to see someone taking responsibility for their own failures once in a while.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2013-08-28 03:12 pm UTC (link)
"If you loved it, it's because I'm a great author; if you hated it, it's because it was ruined by the editors."

Which reminds me of this (Warning: TV Tropes link), and in particular, this quote from Mike Nelson:

"I contend that making a film that's only part satire is hedging your bet, in a sense saying 'if you like it and think it's good, then it's a good movie. If you think it stinks, then I meant it to be funny.' It's the coward's way to make a movie."

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[info]soc_puppet
2013-08-28 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Woo-hoo! I managed to only click one link from the main article! I can eat breakfast and make it to class on time!

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[info]the__ivorytower
2013-08-28 04:12 pm UTC (link)
...the Tommy Wiseau approach, I see.

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[info]argylespy
2013-08-28 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Two words: Stephen King.

Everything I've heard and read about him, he's never really that upset over people disliking his movie adaptations and understands that some of his work isn't great -- or even necessarily good -- and that some of it is really hard to adapt to the screen anyway.

Also, despite it's commercial success and heralding as one of the best adaptations to date, he loathed Kubrick's "The Shining" so much that a couple of decades later he hired a director who had worked on adaptations of his books that King liked and remade The Shining into a miniseries.

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[info]luxshine
2013-08-28 11:28 pm UTC (link)
This.

Also, when he took control of a book adaptation on his own, the horrible movie Maximum Overdrive, he took responsibility for the movie's failure and never directed again.

The only time when he has said that the movie is horrible and has no resemblance to his own word was with the Lawnmower man. And to be honest, the only parts of his short story that appear in the novel could have been deleted and not affect the whole movie at all.

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[info]argylespy
2013-08-29 06:54 am UTC (link)
Oh man, I am so glad to hear both of those things, but mostly about Lawnmower Man because I just watched that for the first time not long ago (I haven't read it) and I think that was one of the most awful -- both hilariously and horrifyingly -- King adaptation I've ever seen.

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[info]vorpal_blade
2013-08-28 11:46 pm UTC (link)
When you're as prolific as King and so many of your books or stories have been filmed, there are bound to be both hits and misses. Shawshank Redemption, Misery, Stand by Me, Carrie, The Green Mile--all very well-regarded. I couldn't believe the mind-boggling stupidity of the miniseries "It", though. For me, whether a film is supposed to be good or not is more important to me than who wrote the book, who's directing, who's starring, and all that. Loads of people whose work I like have done crap projects I don't want to waste my time on. Not every film or book can be a home run.

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[info]nevadafighter
2013-08-29 04:37 am UTC (link)
Considering how cosmic the end of that novel is, back in 1989/1990 a TV miniseries budget just didn't have the resources to do it right, hence the cheesy mechanical spider. But you have to admit Tim Curry was fucking scary--he gave me nightmares after that.

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2013-08-30 11:24 pm UTC
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[info]argylespy
2013-08-29 07:06 am UTC (link)
"It" was awesome for me because I got to see Martha Kent save Talia Al Ghul from Nigel Thornberry.

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[info]ninwhore
2013-08-29 05:32 am UTC (link)
My dad told me that when The Shining was in theaters he actually took off of work to go see it and was super excited about it.

He left the theater about 15 minutes in. Telling me this story he ranted for about 10 minutes about what they got wrong. So I guess I can see how King wouldn't like it.

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[info]argylespy
2013-08-29 06:37 am UTC (link)
I liked it the first time I saw it. But then I saw it again and thought about it a little more and read about the kind of shit that Kubrick pulled on set and read the book.

And yeah. I can see exactly why he hated that movie.

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[info]sandglass
2013-08-29 06:22 am UTC (link)
Stephen King sounds like such a class act. I really wish I could get into his books.

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[info]argylespy
2013-08-29 06:50 am UTC (link)
Man, I totally understand why you can't. My biggest issue with his writing is how long it takes him to actually get into the story, though I think he's gotten better at that more recently.

My go-to recommendation for people who don't go in for the usual King stuff, though, is the Dark Tower series, if you haven't checked it out already. It's epic fantasy (translated through Stephen King) with four main characters, one of whom is a disabled woman of color who kicks everyone's ass, with a backstory that's Post-Apocalyptic King Arthur And The Cowboys Of The Round Table. There's seven novels (plus a bonus one that's just kind of eh), but if you want to get a little taste without that kind of commitment, there's also a bunch of prequel comics that Marvel's still working with King to put out.

/SHAMELESS PLUGGING
/MORE DARK TOWER FANS
/MOOOORE

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(no subject) - [info]franzen, 2013-08-29 09:10 am UTC
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[info]khym_chanur
2013-08-29 07:42 am UTC (link)
Have you tried reading The Gunslinger series? The first book isn't that long, and the first three books are really good. In my opinion, the books after the first three aren't nearly as good, though.

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[info]dunmurderin
2013-08-31 04:41 am UTC (link)
I'd also recommend his short-story collections, especially Night Shift and Skeleton Crew. The story "The Boogeyman" gave me the screaming heebie-jeebies and "The Mist" still makes me more than a little nervous on foggy days.

As far as novels, I recommend Carrie and Eyes of the Dragon, which was a fantasy novel he wrote for his daughter (iirc). These are also shorter works and when King is writing shorter pieces, he seems to have better focus on the story than he does in some of his longer works (though, that said, the expanded version of The Stand really did add something to the story).

I'm also pretty fond of Christine and Talisman

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(no subject) - [info]rhiannonmr, 2013-08-31 08:20 am UTC

[info]jedi_miki
2013-08-29 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Stephen King is such an awesome guy. My Mom's a big fan, and I wish I was. The only book of his that I've ever read was Carrie. I want to attempt the Mist, though I know my reason for it is completely ass backwards (I loved the ending of the movie, which I know isn't the same in the book, but I'd still love to give the book a read).

My Mom got to see him on his promotional run for 11/22/63, where he read a couple of chapters. Wish I could've gone, they had this fun little event where you payed your admission by buying the book, and while doing so you had a chance of getting an autographed copy when you went to pick it up.

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[info]argylespy
2013-08-29 07:18 pm UTC (link)
For what it's worth, King apparently liked the movie ending better.

Also that's completely awesome and I'm really jealous of your mom!

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[info]quantumreality
2013-08-30 12:03 am UTC (link)
I've read The Stand and it's the only King book I've read; that said, holy bejeebers *shudders* Nightmare Fuel in that thing! But for all that it's a doorstopper of a book it does manage to hold my attention when I re-read it occasionally.

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[info]feenix
2013-08-29 03:48 am UTC (link)
I'm surprised she didn't blame the failure of the movie on Joss Whedon. (You know, since he wrote most of Draco'sJace's dialogue.)

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[info]cinnamonical
2013-08-29 03:58 am UTC (link)
Yeah, but that would require that she actually admit that she stole/lifted/borrowed from elsewhere, instead of it springing fully-formed from her head like some sort of patchwork Athena.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2013-08-29 07:16 am UTC (link)
and now I'm imagining, essentially, Sally from Nightmare Before Christmas costumed as Pallas Athene - toga, helm-cap, spear, etc etc.

It's an oddly appealing image.

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(no subject) - [info]cinnamonical, 2013-08-29 08:32 am UTC

[info]paladin
2013-08-29 08:33 am UTC (link)
Don't be silly. Joss Whedon isn't to blame for anything.

Throwing the studio under the bus is frankly just another way she's plagiarizing him.

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[info]franzen
2013-08-29 09:12 am UTC (link)
+10000

Am I the only one who thinks they deserve each other? With their powers combined, they could make an epic, totally failtastic series full of sexism, racism, cliched plots, dialogue that's meant to be funny but tries too hard... they'd be perfect for each other.

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[info]mcity
2013-09-23 07:15 pm UTC (link)
Do I make a joke about politics, America, or American politics?

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