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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
See, someone linked to the Wikipedia summary of this book, and I nearly fell outta my damn chair. (WARNING: 24/7 INCEST IS TOTALLY COOL.) Here's the best part--it came up in the context of THIS:

The Worst Thing That I Have Ever Witnessed Personally at a Convention: My friend Jenn and I went to a Teaching SF workshop the next day after the Hugos. During the day, during a break, Robert Heinlein came up and the people in attendance in our little group (who were 3 older men, Jenn and me who might be the youngest person in the room) talked about how badly they wished Heinlein was taught in schools. Jenn, who actually teaches 5th grade reading [ETA: Oops - She teaches Creative Writing as an Art] in a very difficult place, tried to mention that she would never bring Heinlein to her Hispanic and African girls in Red Hook, because not only would they not like it, but the message about women in Heinlein is not a good one. Jenn was literally ignored and steamrolled as if she was not there by the men, and I had to stop the conversation they were having and say, "Hey, actually, can you say that again, Jenn, because I think that's a really important point you just made and we should all hear what you just said and maybe talk about it."

There was actually a ton of discussion and controversy about WTF Are We Going to Do, WorldCon Is in the Death Grip of Sexist Old White Dudes Who Keep Chasing Off the Kids, You Guys, We Are Going to Be So Screwed Twenty Years From Now this past week. That's a little taste of why (with more in the post itself). Also:

"Sure, you have a nice big con now, and a nice big awards ceremony whose online streaming never seems to work. You have internecine debates about why the big fish didn’t get enough panels (please, somebody, get these folks a waahmbulance and World Fantasy registration). But you don’t have major comics creators as GOH. You don’t have voice actors. You don’t have manga-ka. You don’t have game companies. You don’t have play-testing, or LARPS, or teahouses, or fashion shows. You are offering a room full of vintage first-edition hardbacks to a group of people who read books on their phones." (http://madelineashby.com/?p=1502)

On a separate but related note, this also happened:

"At first, they were military science fiction novels of a higher order than most. But the romance elements creep in very early on. Bujold tips her hand in the eloquence of her language (normally a good thing) and the attention to detail that only women would find attractive: balls, courts, military dress, palace intrigues, gossiping, and whispering in the corridors."
(http://amazingstoriesmag.com/2013/09/science-fiction-science-fiction/)

So the SFF wank this week was a many-headed hydra. Don't even get me started on the latest flare-up of the GoodReads Bullies Omg feud.


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