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forevagreeneart ([info]forevagreeneart) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2013-12-31 13:55:00


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Entry tags:cons, fandom: supernatural, person: victoria bitter

Victoria Bitter: The Embittering
Oh, how nice, someone's creating a little convention for the Supernatural fandom, and they're looking for staff members. Looks like the position of Event Director has already been filled, though, by one...

Andrew Blake. AKA thanfiction. AKA Victoria Bitter.

The event hasn't received much attention thus far, but everyone who's responded to the original post looks enthusiastic and willing to throw money at the idea.

Unsurprisingly, people from other corners of the fandom have begun to speak up, sharing stories of past exploits and linking to the book written by a previous VB/AB/TF victim.

Andy, aware of his reputation in fandom, has made several posts on his most recent Tumblr in the past few months, saying that the past is behind him and refuting the claims of people who are preemptively warning the SPN fandom about his exploits.

Only time will tell if he has really changed his ways, but all signs point to no.

One final note: misgendering is not cool. There are about 10 million reasons to mock Andrew Blake, but his gender identity is not one of them.

ETA: Now matured from "having just finished his 20s" to "30 with a lot of job experience", our hero has posted more details about the application process, explaining that everything might go wrong and that's just the way that cons work, and that pretty much all of the cool stuff mentioned thus far might be too expensive if they don't get enough participants. (thanks luxshine!)



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[info]argylespy
2014-01-13 10:47 pm UTC (link)
[ ... ] but he's over it!

I think that's what really gets me every single time. Every time he pulls something like this again, there's always inevitably a post somewhere where someone brings up his past and his response is always "I'm past that!" or some other variation, the wording of which always inevitably implies that he was passively involved in his own fucked up actions.

Which isn't helped by the fact that, at least in the tumblr post linked to, his response is laughable in its transparent attempt to pretend that he's never been an abusive asshole.

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[info]themadscientist
2014-01-13 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah like
And what continues to get me is a lot of the people who are calling him out are saying "It doesn't mean we aren't willing to give him a chance but do not wholeheartedly trust him because he has a history" and for Andy's supporters that's clearly an ATTACK and IRRATIONAL and MEEEN (and may not even be him even though he's openly referenced his past exploits)

Even now the Cult of Personality is there, albeit small. Scary stuff.

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[info]luxshine
2014-01-14 04:39 am UTC (link)
the first person who blew the whistle about thanfiction in the fandom had to put down the original post and beg that it wasn't reblogged anymore because she got so many notes attacking her. And I still don't get why no one in the new inner circle starts wondering 'why the hell everyone says that Andy is insane?' I mean, they can't be THAT blind, can they?

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[info]tez
2014-01-14 04:51 am UTC (link)
the first person who blew the whistle about thanfiction in the fandom had to put down the original post and beg that it wasn't reblogged anymore because she got so many notes attacking her

That is...so unbelievably fucked up.

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[info]argylespy
2014-01-15 04:13 am UTC (link)
Ditto the above about the user who made the original tumblr post, like holy shit.

I mean, they can't be THAT blind, can they?

Honestly? After reading through the entirety of kumquatwriter's blog entries about her experiences with him? I'm not convinced that it's willfull blindness.

It's not the same sort of situation, but I grew up in a household with an emotionally abusive mother and I recognized a lot of the tactics Andy used on kumquatwriter as one's my mother used on me and my brothers. Manipulators and emotional abusers are very good at spinning the truth to what suits them and spouting it with such conviction that you have no choice but to believe it.

Now that I'm out of that house, I can easily see the lies my mother would tell me, but at the time while I was still living there, it was simple to just listen to her say things and believe her wholeheartedly, despite evidence to the contrary staring me right in the face.

Hell, about two months after I moved out, the second or third time I'd seen her since, we got to talking about an arena that had recently opened in the neighborhood I was living in. I mentioned that I was within walking distance of it and she immediately got on my case about it, how I couldn't possibly be that close to it, there was just no way, and just generally trying to convince me that she remembered the city she hadn't lived in in almost thirty years (long before the arena was ever even planned, and she was living in a different part of the city entirely anyway) better than I did having only just been there a little over an hour ago.

And she still had such an influence over me that when I was walking around my neighborhood in that direction a few days later, I had to confirm to myself that I was as close to the arena as I had thought, despite even having checked on Googlemaps during that conversation.

If these people have really read the history and accusations and are still defending him? I doubt it's just because they're sticking their fingers in their ears and going LALALA hoping to drown everyone else out. It's because Andy has probably already addressed them in such a way that they've been convinced that the rest of the internet is either lying, or unjustly attacking a man who's already ~*apologized*~ and has ~*moved on*~ and ~*changed*~.

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[info]luxshine
2014-01-15 08:33 pm UTC (link)
I should've been more clear.
I don't quite blame the people who are already in his inner circle for not seeing Andy as the lying snake he is. I also read kumquatwriter's blog and I can see how someone already sucked in would not see the manipulation going on without a huge shock.

But the people who are not in the inner circle, the people who haven't met him in person, and who are just discovering his blog and yelling that he is just misunderstood? That's the people I don't get.

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[info]themadscientist
2014-01-16 12:24 am UTC (link)
TBH as someone else said in one of those links - this time he's picked the perfect hunting ground.

Tumblr already is predisposed to support and rally around people who are openly confronting their mental health problems and also those who are non-cis. I don't know if he's talked about the latter but he posts often about the former. (Apparently he only got like, 25 hours of sleep all year.)

He also picked gold in supporting Destiel, where many of the fans already have a us versus them mentality. And the fact that he does artwork / writing doesn't hurt his case at all. And he still has his following from his massive HP fic.

In short - he's in the perfect place to work on a BNF following and the perfect platform wherein his flaws will be seen as a brave person sharing their struggles. And no one wants to think about what has been documented because OPEN MINDEDNESS AND FORGIVENESS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE.

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[info]rosehiptea
2014-01-16 01:18 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I really like tumblr and my non-cis son has found a lot of valuable support there. But people on there (and I include myself in this) generally are not big on fact-checking. And it gets even worse since Andy can spin this into being a situation without verifiable facts, even though it isn't.

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[info]argylespy
2014-01-16 04:32 am UTC (link)
I feel like Tumblr's gotten a little better at not immediately accepting everything they read outright (or at least my corner of it, I guess), but yeah. Of course it also seems like it's the younger set who are just starting to dip their toes into the social justice pool that don't quite have the tools to figure out when someone's legitimately seeking/offering help and when they're just out to use them.

Which, of course, isn't helped by an extremely talented and, by all accounts, charming and personable manipulator.

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2014-01-14 03:12 pm UTC (link)
The whole "I'm past that" thing also implies that because he says he's moved past it, so should the victims of his abuse. Which is utter bullshit and seems meant to minimize the effect of his actions and paint his detractors as whiny crybabies no one should listen to.

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[info]argylespy
2014-01-15 04:19 am UTC (link)
Thisthisthisthisthis! Thank you for putting it into words more completely!

It's like (or not like, because it just is) he's the only one who's important here and if anyone else hasn't gotten over then that's their problem and their burden to bear and, well, he's not responsible for seeing to their mental health, right?

Despite the fact that he is the direct reason that their mental health ain't so great to begin with. Despite the fact that, at least according to kumquatwriter, one of the ways in which he manipulated them into being emotionally dependent on him was through the use of BS psychology.

Ugh, it just makes me madder the more I learn and hear and think about it.

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[info]tez
2014-01-15 05:05 am UTC (link)
Honestly, Andy is like...the poster child for narcissism and self-absorption to staggering levels.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2014-01-15 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. *claps*

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