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themadscientist ([info]themadscientist) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2014-02-02 04:11:00


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Entry tags:all hail the new troll king, at least no one's knotting, authors, bitter so bitter, books/authors, burn baby burn, but what are your thoughts on otps?, canon fodder, community: oh no they didn't, fan rage, fan theories, fandom: harry potter, harmonians, jkr doesn't know harry potter like i do, my dream wedding destroyed, person: jkr, potter fandom will not be outwanked!, she admitted it!, this is the wank that never ends, too many fucking tags, troll

These things really do go in cycles...
c/p'd from Mousie's hard work:

Emma Watson is guest editing a British magazine that comes out on Thursday.

In it, supposedly JK Rowling shares her regret for making a certain pairing canon over another one.

Nowadays she admits she got it wrong - she should have shipped Harry / Hermione.



ONTD jumps on the bandwagon first with predictable splooge. 2600+ comments and gong. Wank_report anonymouse captured their favorites:


Ron's an asshole! No, Hermione's abusive!
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993729787#t14993729787

"harry's long fat DADA dick BELONGED in hermione's BEAUTIFUL GENIUS MUGGLEBORN COOCH AND THE FANFIC PROVES IT"
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993646843#t14993646843

When people don't like ron it's because he's too poor and working class!
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993204731#t14993204731

Someone mentions Hermione/Draco, spawning a thread about whether Draco is an irredeemable racist. Bonus: passive-aggressive use of "gurl". I guess it's the new "sweetie"? http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993142779#t14993142779

In response to the same Dramione thread, Godwin's Law is invoked! http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993602043#t14993602043

I'm...not even sure what's happening in this thread. But I know I can't look away.
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/85367803.html?thread=14993803259#t14993803259

That's just from the first few pages.

Meanwhile, on Tumblr...

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FU****IN KIDDING ME JK ROWLING YOU REGRET THE THING I BASE MY LIFE ON LIKE JESUS CHRIST YOU MIGHT AS WELL TELL ME THAT I AM ADOPTED
http://ronaldweasley-is-a-father.tumblr.com/post/75318975049/you-have-got-to-be-fu-in-kidding-me-jk-rowling

Dear J. Rowling, If you ever dare to say that Ron wasn’t good enough for anybody I’d be so done.
http://nightinglock.tumblr.com/post/75318100681/dear-j-rowling-if-you-ever-dare-to-say-that

I DON’T WANT TO BASH ANYONE’S SHIP OR ANYTHING, BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I’M CAPABLE OF TAKING.
http://dragonprincessofkeys.tumblr.com/post/75317489747/im-sorry-but-im-not-having-none-of-j-k

reasons why im sad and confused by this bombshell
http://coldnessoflove.tumblr.com/post/75315357947/reasons-why-im-sad-and-confused-by-this-bombshell

For fun nostalgia points, Heidi's excited too:
http://heidi8.livejournal.com/1307412.html?style=mine#comments

And for unfunny nostalgia points, so's Andy Blake (who would like to tell you all about his own magnum opus):
http://andythanfiction.tumblr.com/post/75346872233/your-post-about-ron-and-hermiones-relationship-made-me


The actual article is slated to come out on Thursday. Prepare yourselves for the Second Coming...



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[info]_morrigan_
2014-02-03 07:38 am UTC (link)
Yep! (Alway happy when I see other Harry/Luna shippers).

And Ginny should have ended up with Neville IMO.

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[info]squeakytoy
2014-02-03 11:21 am UTC (link)
OHAITHAR! Someone else who wanted to see Harry/Luna, Neville/Ginny! :D

I did rather like Ron/Hermione, though.

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[info]ladyvyola
2014-02-03 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Those were three pairings I canonically shipped, too!

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[info]squeakytoy
2014-02-04 02:08 am UTC (link)
Go team whatever-it-is-we-are! *waves pompoms somewhat lazily*

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[info]_morrigan_
2014-02-04 02:11 am UTC (link)
I'm fine with Ron/Hermione, even if I don't ship it. So I really don't have any problem with them being together.

But even though I knew Harry/Ginny was probably going to happen, Harry/Luna and Ginny/Neville just felt way more organic and interesting to me than the idea of Harry/Ginny ever did.

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[info]squeakytoy
2014-02-04 02:16 am UTC (link)
Oh, H/G was like the Captain Obvious of the Good Ship I Can't Believe It's Not Obvious.

But, yeah, Harry/Luna seemed like a much better fit particularly since JKR drew such parallels between Harry and Luna in OotP, and gave them some lovely interactions in both OotP and HBP.

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[info]_morrigan_
2014-02-04 02:48 am UTC (link)
I always found it interesting that Luna was a character that JKR *hadn't* planned out from the start. She just came about organically (replacing, IIRC, a Weasley cousin who was supposed to be in book 4 and in Slytherin). And that the book where Luna was introduced was the book where Harry was really going through an emotional roller-coaster of trauma.

I know a lot of people complain about Crazy!Capslock!Harry! in OOtP, but come on. He watch someone be murdered in cold blood right in front of him, and then got tortured by the man who killed his parents. And he was just 14 years old. What 14 year old could really cope with all of that?

But Luna, because she had seen her own mother get killed right in front of her, could understand Harry on that level when no one else could. And she was the only one again able to reach him after what happened to Sirius.

JKR said the in this interview that after everything he'd been through Harry would, realistically, have needed extensive therapy. And I just always felt that Luna really was the only one who not only understood Harry on that level, but could deal with it and help him instinctively in the right ways in dealing with it all. (She was the one who knew he needed time to himself at the end of DH, and made a distraction so he could have some). And I think, in turn, Harry would have been able to ground her a bit more. Some people don't think he would have been able to put up with her spaciness, but IMO she was put into Ravenclaw for a reason. She may be whimsical, but she's not stupid. She just is able to think outside the box, and that's not a bad thing - she would sometimes just take it a bit more father out sometimes, hence just needing a bit more grounding which would come as she grew older. (And JKR pretty much confirmed happened after she grew up and left school anyway).

Sorry for all of this. But Luna is my second favorite character in the series (after Harry), and I've just always felt JKRs muse or subconscious or whatever was trying to tell her something in creating Luna, and making such emotional parallels between her and Harry in OOtP. She says Hermione went "wandering" during the writing of that book, but I have a feeling other characters probably did too, Harry being one of them. But in book six, everyone got yanked back to the set story she had for them when, IMO, she should have just been like "okay, let me just see where *they* take *me*" instead.

Hence why we got the obvious-but-still-very-underwritten Harry/Ginny hook-up.

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[info]squeakytoy
2014-02-04 02:57 am UTC (link)
Ooh, see, that part about how characters 'went wandering' in OotP makes a lot of sense, actually. Because that book really felt like a game-changer when I was reading it...and then HBP felt very rigidly constrained, like it was being thoroughly tied up and tamed.

And I just always felt that Luna really was the only one who not only understood Harry on that level, but could deal with it and help him instinctively in the right ways in dealing with it all.

Are we twins? Brain twins, separated in the pre-birth ether? Because, yeah, out of all the characters, Luna seemed like the one who best understood Harry and the nature of difference. Perhaps she wouldn't be able to give him 'normal', but I always felt a little like Harry would never achieve 'normal' at the end of all he'd been through.

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[info]_morrigan_
2014-02-04 03:22 am UTC (link)
Perhaps she wouldn't be able to give him 'normal', but I always felt a little like Harry would never achieve 'normal' at the end of all he'd been through.

Harry craved normal but, realistically - after everything he'd gone through - "normal" (as he imagined what normal was) would have never been something he could have completely had. Not the least of which being, yeah, he would have realistically needed extensive therapy after the war ended. And even with that, I don't think all the scars of that time would have gone away or been completely forgotten.

Maybe they wouldn't have been a picture-perfect image of "normal" together (like I think the image of him and Ginny present), but heck, Luna was able to have a husband - Rolf- and two kids with him and they are all happy from the little we know; so I'm pretty sure she and Harry could have done the same. And I think, deep down, a family is something Harry wanted - and would have been happy with - even more than some imagined ideal of "normal."

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[info]soc_puppet
2014-02-04 06:17 am UTC (link)
But in book six, everyone got yanked back to the set story she had for them when, IMO, she should have just been like "okay, let me just see where *they* take *me*" instead.

This is a very interesting insight, and, IMO, probably accurate at that.

I would now like a round trip ticket to the alternate universe in which JKR did decide to see where they took her, and appropriate clearance to bring back that universe's book six and seven (and any others that might hypothetically have come after).

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