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	ingrid 2003-08-15 06:16 pm UTC (link)
	Hee! BTW, I don't really like "The O.C." -- I just wanted to bitch-rag on Lana. Really. It's sad the blackout took a lot of the oomph out of this wank. Just as it was heating up ... (Reply to this)(Thread)

misswindy
2003-08-15 06:32 pm UTC (link)

I don't really like "The O.C." -- I just wanted to bitch-rag on Lana. Really.

Yeah, I only got into "The O.C." for the sole purpose of being able to bag on SV even more every week. Hee!

Although, as I was tellin a friend last night, I can understand the "conservative" side here. If I were a big Matisse fan and loved to talk about Matisse with other Matisse fans, and suddenly there's this gallery opening and suddenly all anyone can talk about is Picasso, Picasso, Picasso, and a couple of folks are all about how Picasso uses color better and is way more handy at that whole cubism thing than Matisse will EVER be, and blah blah blah... I'd soon be feeling all "You know what? Fuck Picasso AND the horse he rode in on." Ya know?

By the same token... when someone posts declaring "I am here to say I don't like this fandom", at my most generous, I think "That's... niiiiiiiice", and keep reading. At my least generous I think "!@!@(%^$#*&%*)(&#$STFUASSHATNOBODYFUCKINGCARES!!!!" So, there's that, too.

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ingrid
2003-08-15 06:41 pm UTC (link)

I were a big Matisse fan and loved to talk about Matisse with other Matisse fans ...

To be serious for a second (and then it's back to the pointing and laughing) I don't know why people get the idea that anything outside of a community on LJ is or should be devoted to any single topic. It's all about the person who owns the LJ, not about any particular fandom. Sure, people friend you for sharing various interests, but um, the power is yours to change that relationship at any time you feel you've diverged to the point of pain, ya know?

Eh, whatever. *points and laughs at self* Damn, I'm wanky!

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deeablo
2003-08-15 06:18 pm UTC (link)

Actually, Miss W, The O.C. premiered on August 5, which makes this fandom only ten days old. Although one of the links you listed actually is actually dated August 11, which means that after only one episode and less than a week, knickers were already in a twist.

Fastest kerfuffle ever?

Ah, Smallville. I can always count on your silly-ass flame wars to keep my evil bones warm. Mmmmmmm . . . evil bones . . .

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	snacky 2003-08-15 06:58 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I love when misswindy brings wank from SV. And it's been so long without a SV wank, I was starting to worry. I particularly liked this little OT exchange in the comments. Hee! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2003-08-15 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	Gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! DEATHTOWOOBIES!!!!!!!!!! Ahem. Carry on. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	snacky 2003-08-15 07:18 pm UTC (link)
	This was the bit that killed me: Hmm, I never thought of it that way What? WHAT? You just said you wanted to cuddle them and give them cookies and you never thought of it that way? And a "woobie" is what all the kids in my family call their blankies. It just cracks me up to see the infantilization of all these men. g (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	deeablo 2003-08-15 07:25 pm UTC (link)
	::points to icon, made by misswindy:: Never thought of it that way, my ass. I hate the Woobie Brigade with the heat of a million suns. I, too, called blankets "woobies" (from Mr. Mom, yeah?) and now that word is forever ruined for me because certain people choose to infantilize grown men at every freaking opportunity. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	harukami 2003-08-15 07:37 pm UTC (link)
	Y'know, I never heard the word until some of my friends got into Smallville. I thought it sounded like... WAFFy, which was the utterly wrong track to take. It wasn't until said Smallville friend was watching the Due South pilot with me and went "Woobie!" at Fraser angsting over his father's death that I realized what it meant. o_O (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	darthhellokitty 2003-08-15 08:26 pm UTC (link)
	I remember somebody realized the woobie thing had got out of hand when they were watching "Brimstone" and found themselves thinking "Aww, Satan's a woobie." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	In defense of the woobie. smit 2003-08-15 08:23 pm UTC (link)
	What about the infantilization of teenage boys who act like spoiled brats, rotten children and/or big whiny babies (see Everwood, re: Ephram Brown)? I'm a big fan of the word "woobie", but I also enjoy perving on the minors. (Dude. Thanks for the code Windy.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: In defense of the woobie.

misswindy
2003-08-15 09:16 pm UTC (link)

Well, you can't really make infants out of... characters that are already little more than infants themselves. Most of the characters on Everwood bring out my maternal instinct. I don't actually want to seduce any of them*, so much as I want to bake them cookies and listen sympathetically.

* With the exception of Bright Abbott, who is not a woobie. ISNOTISNOTINFINITY.

And for the record, any character ever played by John Glover anywhere will nevah evah need a hug. EVAH! Good Lord, SV Fen and their sexual hangups. "I cannot deal with a grown man whose sexuality I find threatening and intimidating. MUST! MAKE! HIM! A! BABY!"

I hate, like, everything right now.

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	Re: In defense of the woobie. smit 2003-08-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	Meh. Yeah, with Smallville I usually want to give everyone on the show a good stiff smack in the head, not bake them cookies. This may be why I repeatedly kill them in fic. I refuse to discuss Bright with you in this venue. It could get ugly. Woobie. Sexuality? Frightening? NEVER. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: In defense of the woobie. misswindy 2003-08-15 09:22 pm UTC (link)
	Also (Dude. Thanks for the code Windy.) You're very welcome. :) :) :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	moonjaguar 2003-08-15 08:30 pm UTC (link)
	"Woobie"? Oh deelightful. Another word to add to my ever growing list of Annoying Fandom Jargon. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Heh barbana 2003-08-15 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	I thought that word was from this quaint old 80's movie...Mr. Mom. It was the kids blanket wasn't it? living in left field (Reply to this)(Parent)

shannenb
2003-08-15 07:48 pm UTC (link)

Miss Windy gave me a code (thanks!) so I can come over here and wank myself!

I did delete my comment on the whole thing, but mainly because it was a waste of space. I basically just said "Hey, I was overly sensitive because when I started watching Smallville, my Roswell fandom friends basically refused to speak to me anymore, so when I saw The OC comments, I was expecting a repeat of that whole scenario."

So yeah--I was wanky. I should have realized that SV fandom can in no way get as wanky as Roswell fandom (I mean, posting the exec producer's home phone number on a message board and encouraging people to call and harass him because your fave couple isn't getting enough screentime? Now *that's* wanky!) and I was overreacting in my wankiness.

But hey--the whole thing caused more people to ask "What's The OC?" than the original posts, and that amuses me quite a bit.

So anyway, yeah I was somewhat wanky. I'll own it.

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	mariagoner 2003-08-15 08:33 pm UTC (link)
	That's it. Embrace the wank. Integrate yourself into the community. Look forward to the wank of others. Soon, all sorrow shall pass and you shall become yet another industrious part of the hive vagina. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2003-08-15 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	::points at your icon and squees like a complete tool:: (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-08-15 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	Hee...! Thanks. Setsuna let me borrow it. Ain't it cute anyhow? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	misswindy 2003-08-15 09:18 pm UTC (link)
	hugs I feel like we've bonded somehow. That took guts, even if your now-deleted post was the absolute least wanky thing posted up there, including mine. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shannenb 2003-08-15 09:56 pm UTC (link)
	Hee! Thanks! I still stand by my side in the kerfluffle, it's just stepping away and getting some perspective made me agree I was being a bit wanky. And slodwick said everything I wanted to say and said it a lot better anyway. Being able to laugh at your own wankiness makes enjoying the wank of others a lot more fun, I guess. So bring on the Harry Potter wank! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smit 2003-08-15 11:22 pm UTC (link)
	I advise against progressing immediately from a fuzzy bunnies and cute kittens wank like SV to the flaming bitchmonster with very sharp pointy teeth wank of HP. Or at the very least, wait an hour after eating. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ingrid 2003-08-15 11:27 pm UTC (link)
	So bring on the Harry Potter wank! That's serious, hardcore wank. Are you sure you're ready for that? You might want to try some on-line comics or pointy-stick wank first. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	coyotegirl 2003-08-16 12:32 am UTC (link)
	I recommend Keenspot webcomics for mid-level get-your-feet-wet learn-to-swallow type wank. All the bigger ones just generate wank daily, including personal vendettas and "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAID SO" and exchanges of insults, but they're not HP-fandom level wank. nods in a pseudowise sort of way (Reply to this)(Parent)

kimera
2003-08-15 08:05 pm UTC (link)

I don't really consider SV to be a teen show...

Damnit! It IS a teen show! It's got *teenagers* in *high school*! Why do people have such a problem admitting that they like something not necessarily intended for their age group, whatever that may be? I still watch Power Rangers, and I'm not ashamed of the fact. I don't try and justify it with "Oh it's not a kids show, really." It has space aliens, giant robots, and people in spandex.

Blah!

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	phosfate 2003-08-15 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	I watch Courage the Cowardly Dog and The Powerpuff Girls, but it's not like they're kids' shows. And I like Tremors and Buffy but it's not like they're big dopey horror shows or something. And I read Mars and Peach Girl but they're not romance comics, goddammit! So shut up! LA LA LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	setsunastar 2003-08-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	What does O.C. stand for? Cos I'm thinking "Original Character", and the mind just boggles... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	shannenb 2003-08-15 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	It stands for Orange County. That's where the show takes place. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dana 2003-08-16 02:18 am UTC (link)
	All I want to know is how I can find out more about this show? A friend was blathering about it the other day. Now I'm curious. Links! Links! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	shannenb 2003-08-16 02:33 am UTC (link)
	Here's a couple of sites: Fox's OC site OC Central The show airs Tuesday night at 9PM Eastern, and then Fox reairs that episode on Friday nights at 9PM and then again Monday nights at 8PM. So you can actually catch the second ep tonight if you're interested. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	guildenstern 2003-08-17 10:03 pm UTC (link)
	Good God! O.C. Wank? ALREADY?! ....I was hoping that The Beast wouldn't wake for a few weeks, at least. ;-; Christ. ....I should've known Lana was behind all this. Bitch. XD (Reply to this)