What makes a TRUE fan?

dunc
2003-08-22 04:13 am UTC (link)

This arguement comes up in one form or another on every single fannish message board I've ever been on. It's stupid and ugly and annoying. THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES ONE A 'TRUE' OR 'REAL' ANYTHING. You like/do something enought to discuss it online? You are a Real Whatever. The End.

Arrgh. Sorry. I like, you, would usually kill a thread like this if it showed up on my board. But wank is fun!

Bad, naughty fandom_wank. You're ruining us mods. You need a spanking!

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	Re: What makes a TRUE fan? sagralisse 2003-08-22 04:26 pm UTC (link)
	::perk:: (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	As long as we're on a bondage theme... mariagoner 2003-08-22 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	...dibs on Draco's leather pants. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ladybirdsleeps 2003-08-22 05:04 am UTC (link)
	Only the owner of the community (or journal) and the person who made the comment are able to see the logged IP, just FYI. Man, this is funny. Who cares? It's not like being a cosplayer will get you into Harvard. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rogue 2003-08-22 05:09 am UTC (link)
	Someone said "It's not like we're curing cancer", and a couple people took offense because she was trivializing their beloved hobby. eyeroll (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladybirdsleeps 2003-08-22 05:41 am UTC (link)
	Someone should clue them in that it is trivial. (Reply to this)(Parent)

hakainokami
2003-08-22 07:17 am UTC (link)

And the first poster turned it around to "we should be curing cancer instead" The best part is when she calls herself silly, then says that the problem comes from all the silly people...

I love cosplaying! I love it even more now that it has an exceedingly silly person ranting about who should be labeled a "cosplayer". My friend is far more serious about it than this person seems to be and she found the entire thing highly amusing. Being elitist doesn't make you the elite.

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	phosfate 2003-08-22 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	They cure cancer for a hobby? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chash 2003-08-22 05:10 pm UTC (link)
	9:00 a.m - 10: a.m.: cure cancer. 10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.: plan newest cosplay costume. 12:00 p.m. - 12:30 p.m.: lunch. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	virago 2003-08-22 05:53 pm UTC (link)
	Only TWO hours planning the most important thing in the world?! Poser! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: chash 2003-08-22 06:15 pm UTC (link)
	I imagine more will come after lunch. (Reply to this)(Parent)

iczer6
2003-08-22 05:31 am UTC (link)

{Or have kids try to tell me something about an episode of Kenshin they watched on cartoon network, when I watched Kenshin on 4th generation Hecto fansubs copies back in the year of the flood.}

Wordy Mcword. I do remember those Hecto fansubs... Ahhh trying to figure out what the hell was going on because the picture was so bad...

I digress.

{I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm simply one who has a compulsion to set things straight, and do not back down.}

Yes and when we're not in BizzaroLand that's called 'arguing for the sake of arguing' as well as 'backpeddeling so fast you'll run into something.'

Icz

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	shoiryu 2003-08-22 07:05 am UTC (link)
	/I've/ got the Hecto fansubs, too, and damn, was I proud of them at the time... I think mine were fifth or sixth generation, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iris 2003-08-23 04:46 am UTC (link)
	Fifth or sixth gen? Were they even watchable? I only have a few fansubs (of Yu Yu Hakusho)...and I think mine are all first or second gen. Imagining the breakdown you'd get after that many copies makes me shudder. (Reply to this)(Parent)

rowan
2003-08-22 05:58 am UTC (link)

And then it turns into an IF YOU WATCH ONLY CARTOON NETWORK STUFF UR NOT A TROO ANIME FAN!!!!1111 wank in one of the threads.

Ah, my beloved anime fandom, you wank about the same things over and over and over again. Can we not have some variation in our wank, like the HP fandom?

... hmm, on second thought... nah.

(And to the original poster: Props on the normal operation of the community, by the way. I got some very much needed aid from it back when I was making my costume for Fanime and AX hall/masquerade this year.)

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	rogue 2003-08-22 07:40 am UTC (link)
	And to the original poster: Props on the normal operation of the community, by the way. I got some very much needed aid from it back when I was making my costume for Fanime and AX hall/masquerade this year. Thanks! I do try and make it a nice community that people aren't afraid to ask even the smallest questions in. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

virago
2003-08-22 06:12 am UTC (link)

I've sharpened this particular knife so often that it's worn down to a sliver. It can't take any more.

I love making costumes and I love wearing them, but goddamn if I don't hate the community at large with the fire of a thousand suns. (Not yours, I mean the "scene" overall.) Like anything it's 90% crud, but in this case... I'm sorry, but this hobby is built around calling attention to yourself. You are GOING to get a bunch of freaking drama queens. Combine that with the anime fandom's penchant for trivial shibboleths (well, Iiiiiiiii saw the series before it was even maaaaaaade so there, you poser!!!!) and you have one gi-freaking-gantic wank souffle.

Thank god some of - many of - the people in that thread actually have their heads screwed on straight. It's a hobby. It's an immensely silly hobby dedicated to doing immensely silly things. It is also fun as hell, but let's be honest, it's silly. This does not preclude its being fun.

People need to stop basing their damn self-esteem on their hobbies. That's all. I'm done. < /statingtheobvious >

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	mireille 2003-08-22 06:35 am UTC (link)
	one gi-freaking-gantic wank souffle That is a beautiful phrase. [/awe] (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	redmenace 2003-08-22 09:04 am UTC (link)
	Mmm... wankalicious. Would the souffle look anything like this? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rikoshi 2003-08-22 01:15 pm UTC (link)
	Congratulations! Thou hast made me slackjawed! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rikoshi 2003-08-22 01:01 pm UTC (link)
	...anime fandom's penchant for trivial shibboleths... set status(virago) = myHero (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	virago 2003-08-22 05:52 pm UTC (link)
	I was on a big-word kick yesterday for some reason. But it's true. ;) Thanks. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	conchoidal 2003-08-22 08:54 am UTC (link)
	this has got to be the stupidest argument ever... ok maybe not.. but damn when I go to a con and see someone dressed up I refer to them as a cosplayer... why? CAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING COSPLAYING!!!! sorry.. just had to get that out. I'm calm, I'm cool. (Reply to this)

	rikoshi 2003-08-22 01:26 pm UTC (link)
	UR R NOT LEET! J00 R N0T TEH_OLDSK00L OMG!!!1111 >.< A winnar is not yuo. introduces face to doorknob, repeatedly (Reply to this)

nolifeking
2003-08-22 02:20 pm UTC (link)

Why is

ureshiialucard going eliteest whilst chanting 'Hellsing! Pokemon! Digimon 02!!'?

But seriously. Going "uh, you're debating this and need to get a life!" when you are the other side of the debate? Participating in the row with two different aliases, that apparently no one else there know are the same person? I guess we all need things to do in our free time.

Mmm, everytime I hear from the scene I'm so happy I'm not into cosplay...

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	rikoshi 2003-08-22 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	Mmm, everytime I hear from the scene I'm so happy I'm not into cosplay... Every time I read new wank, I'm so happy to not be a fucking idiot. grins perkily (Reply to this)(Parent)

rogue
2003-08-22 10:46 pm UTC (link)

Most of the regulars know that cosplay_admin = phantasmrose (it's not like I have conversations with myself, or deny my identity if people ask).

The "get a life" thing was definately a low point. That kid, tho, drives me up a wall. He asked for opinions on his Hellsing/Chobits crossover doujinshi, and I said I didn't like it. He's seen me as a LJ arch-nemesis ever since, and will start an argument over any damn thing if I'm around. I usually ignore him.. *shrug*

Cosplay can be really fun - it's just best to stay away from all online functions. >_< The cosplay LJ was up before the "cosplay boom" hit the internet.. and now it's just... yeesh.

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	OT loki 2003-08-22 11:20 pm UTC (link)
	...is that a 'Brotherhood of the Wolf' icon? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: OT rogue 2003-08-23 10:38 pm UTC (link)
	why, yes it is! (Reply to this)(Parent)

nolifeking
2003-08-23 12:56 am UTC (link)

That does seem more reasonable, I got quite a different impression from your original post.

I know individual cosplayers, and they seem to have fun enough, it's just that when cosplayers get in groups I see them turn into spectacular backbiting orgies. Is there any one thing you can do without getting your own group of hecklers somewhere?

Hellsing/Chobits crossover, I will refrain from commenting on.

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	greekhoop 2003-08-23 02:10 am UTC (link)
	For the record, that's the third icon of yours that has made me giggle with childish glee. Hooray for Frenchies! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sagralisse 2003-08-22 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	W00t! I learned a new word (asstacular) and it only cost me 12 brain cells! (Reply to this)