Log In

Home
    - Create Journal
    - Update
    - Download

LiveJournal
    - News
    - Paid Accounts
    - Contributors

Customize
    - Customize Journal
    - Create Style
    - Edit Style

Find Users
    - Random!
    - By Region
    - By Interest
    - Search

Edit ...
    - Personal Info &
      Settings
    - Your Friends
    - Old Entries
    - Your Pictures
    - Your Password

Developer Area

Need Help?
    - Lost Password?
    - Freq. Asked
      Questions
    - Support Area



Icz ([info]iczer6) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2003-08-25 21:44:00


Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
Current mood:rejected

Potential RPS wank the Return of Ginmar!
Sigh this isn't a wank yet but I'll eat my keyboard if it doesn't turn into one in a little while.

A member of Fanficrants asks for thoughts on RPS. Which is never a good question.

Enjoy!

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/89531.html



(Post a new comment)


[info]eljuno
2003-08-26 05:01 am UTC (link)
We need to make a list of things that are wanky by definition/wank waiting to happen. Thus far I've got...

1. Harry Potter fandom
2. Music fanboards
3. Domlijah
4. Buffy fandom
5. Pairing wars
6. The never-ending RPS debate

Anyone want to add?

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]diamonde
2003-08-26 05:05 am UTC (link)

7. The ongoing FPS debate, AKA 'but it doesn't explicity say they're gay in canon!!'
8. Fanfic awards.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-26 05:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 05:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 05:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 05:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 05:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 05:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 05:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 05:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 06:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 05:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 05:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 06:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]soy_latte, 2003-08-26 06:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]heyoka, 2003-08-26 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 06:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]heyoka, 2003-08-26 09:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]soy_latte, 2003-08-26 07:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]candy, 2003-08-26 09:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 12:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soy_latte, 2003-08-26 06:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 06:34 am UTC

[info]terminal_frost
2003-08-26 05:21 am UTC (link)
Sex?

Sooner or later, anything involving sex will produce wank.

Nature of the beast I guess...

Or furry-dom?

Oh wait; I'm not so sure about that one... *crosses it out*

How 'bout Mary Sues/Marty Stus? An almost-guarantee that...

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]ipomoea
2003-08-26 05:10 am UTC (link)
9. BNF's

(Reply to this)


[info]lulinda
2003-08-26 05:21 am UTC (link)
Oh boy! Ginmar is over there!

*makes popcorn*

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]iczer6
2003-08-26 05:47 am UTC (link)
I know F_W isn't for axe-grinding and I really don't know Ginmar, but after talking to her for five minutes I want to beat her with a blunt object.

Is that wrong?

And speaking of obessesions I'm wondering since when was she a member of FanficRants? I mean is there some sort of tracking device for RPS rants?

Icz

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2003-08-26 05:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ipomoea, 2003-08-26 06:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amatia, 2003-08-26 07:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 06:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradaloz, 2003-08-26 03:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2003-08-26 03:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-27 12:04 am UTC
Re: - [info]delfeus, 2003-08-27 12:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2003-08-26 04:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerry_ds_girl, 2003-08-27 01:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]faultypremise, 2003-08-27 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-27 12:51 am UTC
Re: - [info]faultypremise, 2003-08-27 12:55 am UTC

[info]lulinda
2003-08-26 05:50 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/89531.html?thread=849595#t849595

Absence of resistance does not equal consent. Interesting attitude, though; it used to be common in rape cases to claim that becuase the victim had no injuries she didn't resist enough.

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]lulinda
2003-08-26 06:04 am UTC (link)
Oopseh, I dun SNAFUd the link:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/89531.html?thread=849595#t849595

(Reply to this)(Parent)


[info]eljuno
2003-08-26 06:04 am UTC (link)
There should be some Godwin's/Snacky's Law type thing about how if you compare whatever your opponant is doing to rape, you've lost the argument. Is there anything like that?

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-26 06:13 am UTC
Addendum to Ginmar's Law: - [info]kimera, 2003-08-26 10:06 am UTC
Re: Addendum to Ginmar's Law: - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-26 10:23 am UTC
Re: Addendum to Ginmar's Law: - [info]mpoetess, 2003-08-26 08:20 pm UTC

[info]lulinda
2003-08-26 06:37 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/89531.html?thread=853691#t853691

As gehayi pointed out, there's a general tendency to say, "Oh, they couldn't write that if it wasn't true, could they? It must be true."

*falls off sofa laughing*

(Reply to this)(Thread)


[info]eljuno
2003-08-26 06:41 am UTC (link)
Oh, yeah, I know the first time I came across stories of Robert and Simon from the Cure having hot hot seks, I immediately went to google to make sure Robert Smith hadn't divorced Mary or anything. Because no one would write it if it wasn't true, right?

Hey, and the first time I came across X-Files slash, I went RIGHT to the official FOX website, because I thought Mulder and Krycek must have hooked up, 'cause no one would write it if it wasn't true, right?

Oh, and when I bought my first Dragonlance novel, I sat on top of my roof with a sharpened broomstick, ready to slay any red dragons who wanted to destroy my house, because no one would let them write it if it wasn't true, right?

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]lulinda, 2003-08-26 06:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rowan, 2003-08-26 07:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]elfy, 2003-08-26 12:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna, 2003-08-26 01:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 03:26 pm UTC
Re: - [info]luna, 2003-08-26 03:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - guardian_writer, 2003-08-27 11:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminal_frost, 2003-08-26 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]electricchick, 2003-08-26 06:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2003-08-26 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2003-08-26 08:00 am UTC
Re: - [info]sorchar, 2003-08-26 08:02 am UTC
You too! - [info]amand_r, 2003-08-26 08:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rowan, 2003-08-26 05:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2003-08-27 09:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2003-08-26 08:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2003-08-27 09:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kimera, 2003-08-26 09:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2003-08-26 11:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2003-08-27 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]electricchick, 2003-08-26 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iris, 2003-08-26 08:17 pm UTC

[info]sorchar
2003-08-26 11:31 am UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure that nobody died and made you the guardian of Aaron Carter's textual virginity.

That needs to be an icon.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]chash, 2003-08-26 07:10 pm UTC
Re: - [info]sorchar, 2003-08-27 09:38 am UTC

[info]ipomoea
2003-08-26 07:05 am UTC (link)
*sigh* This woman is making me want to write an epic-length RPS fic, with lots of porny scenes, and dedicate it to her.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 07:11 am UTC
I'm all about the OT sidetracking today... - [info]luna, 2003-08-26 08:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2003-08-26 09:46 am UTC
And just because Ginmar brought it up
[info]parlance
2003-08-26 07:12 am UTC (link)
Does anyone know more about what happened with Forever Knight? It's referenced here:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/thisficklemob/26780.html

Given Ginmar's insistence on twisting reality to suit her arguments fact-checking skills, I would bet there's much more to this story than told.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]soleta, 2003-08-26 07:23 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-26 07:30 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 07:31 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 07:50 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]terminal_frost, 2003-08-26 08:28 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 07:43 am UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]phosfate, 2003-08-26 04:45 pm UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 05:11 pm UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]mythdefied, 2003-08-26 09:41 pm UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]phosfate, 2003-08-26 09:45 pm UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]phosfate, 2003-08-26 04:49 pm UTC
Re: And just because Ginmar brought it up - [info]parlance, 2003-08-26 07:40 am UTC

[info]morganya
2003-08-26 07:41 am UTC (link)
Y'know, coming as I do from a RPF fandom where there's a fair amount of gen fic/parody to be had, I find myself insulted by Ginmar's reasoning that RPF only applies to porn. I want in on the evil, dammit!

(Reply to this)


[info]diamonde
2003-08-26 07:53 am UTC (link)
Conflict makes me make icons. Anyone who wants, right-click and save.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]musette, 2003-08-26 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 09:07 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2003-08-26 10:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palingenesis, 2003-08-26 03:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2003-08-26 11:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]palingenesis, 2003-08-27 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-26 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-27 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-26 09:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thebratqueen, 2003-08-26 06:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2003-08-27 04:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thebratqueen, 2003-08-27 04:38 am UTC

[info]redpanda
2003-08-26 08:33 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I cringed when I saw that. May as well coat yourself in raw hamburger and throw yourself to the sharks.

(Reply to this)


[info]moonjaguar
2003-08-26 09:44 am UTC (link)
10. Ginmar!!!

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]jar, 2003-08-26 11:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna, 2003-08-26 01:24 pm UTC

[info]sexonastick
2003-08-26 11:31 am UTC (link)
Pardon my ignorance, of course, but does she have any complaints about the possible writing of RP het? I mean, if our major concern here is the poor celebrity and potential damage to their career, then I really think we ought to consider any possible repercussions to someone writing Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts.

Just think of how it would hurt Tom's image if people were to think he was straight.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]linlin, 2003-08-26 12:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2003-08-26 06:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iris, 2003-08-26 08:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soleta, 2003-08-26 08:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fxh, 2003-08-26 09:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2003-08-26 07:38 pm UTC

[info]snacky
2003-08-26 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Not from Ginmar, but I loved this comment:

I don't think fanfics based on real life people should be permitted and is an invasion of privacy.

Permitted? Watch out! RPS is NOT permitted! The Fandom Police can hit you with a hefty fine for writing it.

(Reply to this)


[info]parlance
2003-08-26 06:01 pm UTC (link)
This is my new favorite:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/fanficrants/89531.html?thread=866491#t866491

She's using the "playing God with someone's life" argument. I never knew I had such power.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]fxh, 2003-08-26 06:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2003-08-26 07:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2003-08-27 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-27 05:07 pm UTC

[info]veuki
2003-08-26 09:38 pm UTC (link)
how does your hat taste, bebe? :p

(Reply to this)


[info]pet
2003-08-27 02:25 am UTC (link)
Ginmar makes me want to rip my own arm off so I can beat some sense into her with it. Or is that her arm? So hard to say when my eyes are rolling as hard as they currently are.

She's repeating her same old non-arguments from the last kerfluffle. And she STILL makes no sense.

*headdesk*

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]parlance, 2003-08-27 06:41 am UTC

[info]limyaael
2003-08-27 02:46 am UTC (link)
Okay, I will admit that I find some RPF faintly creepy, particularly the ones that create a Mary Sue OFC for the celebrity to fall in love with, but can someone please tell me how writing any RPF story is the equivalent of:

1) controlling the celebrity's sex life
2) breaking down their door and raping them
3) denying them the ability to be whatever their true-life orientation is, regardless of what's said in fic?

Oh, wait. This has no answer, does it? If there were answers, people wouldn't still be asking the question.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]pradaloz, 2003-08-27 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-08-27 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]limyaael, 2003-08-27 04:30 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2003-09-06 08:29 am UTC (link)
If there is one thing I know for sure in this world, it's that Ginmar will use the word 'rape' in ANY arguement. IT'S THE SAME AS RAPE. MEN ARE EVIL.

(Reply to this)


 
   
Privacy Policy - COPPA
Legal Disclaimer - Site Map