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	amatia 2003-09-01 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Someone should report that to eBay. That's just crazy. (Reply to this)

	nekoneko 2003-09-01 04:55 am UTC (link)
	It seems that it started at $10.00... It's just that 49 bids made the price jump that high. @_@;;; Who would pay that much for a CD?! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	rowan 2003-09-01 04:56 am UTC (link)
	...... OMGWTFBBQ. And doesn't this defeat the whole 'fanfiction isn't for profit' idea? She could very easily get sued for that. In fact, I'd almost like to see that happen, just because of all the wank it'd create. I am a sad, bored little fan. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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rogue
2003-09-01 05:03 am UTC (link)

My first reaction was, "Who in their right mind would pay any amount of money for shit you can get free off the internet?"

Then I thought, "Well, if she's making some extra cash off of people's stupidity, then more power to her."

Which brought me thinking... okay, so she's going to make around $300 off of a shitload of fanfiction. If people are willing to PAY for this stuff, then she must be a damn good writer. WHY is she writing FANFICTION and not writing professionally? You could make SO much more money and get hundreds of times more acclaim writing ORIGINAL ideas and getting them published.

This is just ... insane.

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	musette 2003-09-01 05:04 am UTC (link)
	Oh please, please, PLEASE someone get that girl a cease and desist order from N'Sync's attorneys. She's making money off their image! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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banal_o_rama
2003-09-01 05:15 am UTC (link)

Hot damn, Martha, call the lawyers--there's profit bein' had!

This should be good. If I were them, I'd cover my ass like scalpers do with tickets and offer a copy of an N*sync album, with the fanfic as the "bonus"; it's a loophole, but it seems to work OK. As it is, this is pure profit--no question of time or copying expenses here like you would have with 'zines. The ~~hounds~~ lawyers will descend on this as soon as they're told, I reckon; we could finally have a court battle as to the legality of fanfic :D!

^___^ I'm sorry, but I get this indescribable glee at the possible misfortune of others; my schadenfreude is clairvoyant.

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	dawnswalker 2003-09-01 05:20 am UTC (link)
	One small step for a BNF's ego, one giant leap backwards for the legal status of fanfiction writers on the internet! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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limyaael
2003-09-01 05:26 am UTC (link)

From the statement announcing that she'd be taking the stories down:

I ask that you do NOT put my stories on your own personal sites. If you want to save them to your computer, that is fine. I would also like to remind everyone that my stories ARE copyrighted, therefore it is illegal to reproduce any of them without my permission. (That includes original characters.)

Uh... wouldn't the original characters and the particular arrangements of the words be the only things that she could possibly own? This sounds as if she's claiming the people she writes about, too.

It always amazes/amuses me that so many fanfic writers are concerned with the copyright of their original characters, and whine and squeal about it, when they're dancing on the edge of copyright in the first place.

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	phosfate 2003-09-01 05:37 am UTC (link)
	FictionLyn/Nsync - theirloveissoillegal! (Reply to this)

	amatia 2003-09-01 05:45 am UTC (link)
	Here's what other users on the eBay board had to say. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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munchkinott
2003-09-01 06:00 am UTC (link)

Technically I don't see much difference between that and this - technically. Still doesn't get her off the hook using a copyrighted name without permission (there's also the probable use of copyrighted images) while the sale is advertised as all profits are going to a person other than the copyright holder AND if any of those stories are into NC-17 territory it's a violation of eBay's anti-adult material TOS.

Oooh I see a BIG can of worms, with the lid off too! *munches popcorn*

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sorchar
2003-09-01 06:02 am UTC (link)

Jesus Hillbilly Christ, that is MESSED UP. I would love to smack the shit out of her.

Back in the day, I came up with a couple of soundtrack CDs (well, three) for a long story I was working on and dammit, I will finish someday. People expressed an interest in owning copies of said CD. I charged $4, which included the CD, jewel case, four-page booklet insert and nice label, and postage and mailing in a bubble-wrap-padded envelope. That covered all my costs, and if anyone wanted to make their own, I had all the track lists available and would send the MP3s to anyone who asked. I was so surprised and flattered that people even wanted their own copies, that I'd have burned the CDs and mailed them for free if I could've afforded it.

This shit seriously needs to be reported.

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	amatia 2003-09-01 06:31 am UTC (link)
	I went to report it only to discover that someone else had already done so, and that the seller had ended the item early in order to sell to the current high bidder. The whole thing makes me angry. Isn't one of the big points of fanfiction that we're not doing it to make money? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	trismegistus 2003-09-01 07:14 am UTC (link)
	Oh God, this is just--dude, how is this not blatantly illegal? Aren't we not supposed to be making any money at all off of our fannish creations? Isn't that the whole point? Isn't that the only defense we have against being shut down en masse? Just--argh, just--ARGH, I say, ARGH. [commences random acts of stabbery] (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	musicdiamond 2003-09-01 08:07 am UTC (link)
	You know, I remember a time in 'N Sync fandom when FictionLyn was a nobody, and then she started picking up popularity (inexplicably). Then her ego got swollen to the size of the damn moon and now this is what happens. Bah. We are not pleased. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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(Anonymous)
2003-09-01 08:14 am UTC (link)

I followed a link here from yet another rant about this and I have to say, WOW. As a fellow *Nsync Fanfic writer, I'm embarrassed. We are not all like her at all. In fact, I think the rest of us are probably just as appalled as all of you are... if not more. As much as we hate it, she's representing US.

Unfortunately, a stunt like this is not totally unexpected from her. Her ego needs to be constantly fed and this is just another way for her to do that. People have tried to rationalize that she started the bidding at $10 and that's not too outrageous. But, putting aside any legal issues, if she wanted only $10 for it she could have just sold it off her site.

I mean with a reported 10,000 readers out there (her own claim), did she really think it wouldn't get out of hand?

I'm disgusted that she would even ponder accepting money for something so many others do for pure enjoyment. I write for ME, not for money. Like someone else up there said, should anyone want my stories on a CD it'd cost them $3 to cover the price of the CD and shipping. $250?? That's disgusting. And you'll notice that she's taking the money to, guess what? MAKE MORE CDS.

A lesson needs to be learned here. Someone needs to smack her. And the bidder.

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	iczer6 2003-09-01 08:16 am UTC (link)
	I won't touch the copywrite issue and I really shouldn't say anything about the price considering how much I sometimes spend on doujinshi but... 300 bucks for a CD of FANFICTION? WTF? And to think I've been doing that free for years.... Icz (Reply to this)(Thread)

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(Anonymous)
2003-09-01 08:17 am UTC (link)

Ok i got the link to this whole big long thread from a livejournal on my friends page and i have to respectfully disagree with everyone on this page.

i stumbled on fictionlyn's stories probably a year and a half ago and was really impressed at how sucked in and addicted i got to reading "Sometimes I Wish". have any of you even read the stories? Forget whats going on right now, because none of that was going on until probably a month ago. That's the first anyone even heard of Lyn wanting to sell her stories on a CD.

Slowly, the completed stories came off of the website, much to the dismay of Lyn's readers, and there was a huge demand for somewhere to get them all. Really... if you go read the stories (Saga 2 is my personal favorite) and see what her readers see... you'd see why people would bid on something like this. Yeah, her stories are fanfiction around NSync but the original characters, Miranda, Lauren, Tom, Maitlyn, etc, dominate every story way more than any NSync member does...

I can see how a lot of you would think it was arrogant or conceited to think that someone would pay for this, but what else can you do when there's a HUGE demand for your stuff?

Illegal? Maybe. Why is it making all of you have a hissy fit when it really has nothing to do with you? Its fine to debate the legality of all this, but tattling? Maybe I don't really understand it. The way I see it, she does the same thing you all do... she writes about people who are already alive and defined in character but she had a demand for her completely creative ideas and took the next step.

Feel free to email me at daydream61083@hotmail.com if you wish...

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	(Anonymous) 2003-09-01 08:24 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, so this isn't exactly sitting well in the *NSYNC fan fiction community as well. Or the fact that it went up so high. The winning bidder sees NOTHING wrong with how much she spent, and thinks that it's GREAT. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	lulinda 2003-09-01 08:41 am UTC (link)
	Whoa.. Also, any related links, ppl? Share! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	cynical sporky 2003-09-01 10:48 am UTC (link)
	Anyone feeling a bit cynical about this? How do we know that the winner isn't a sockpuppet? The scary thing is, I'm inclined to doubt it, because emptypt@gt.rr.com has a history from 2001. S/he likes to buy cards, apparently. Our lucky(?) winner got in at about $42 dollars, and stayed until 265. And damn, $200+ would be expensive for published fiction. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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beckalina
2003-09-01 11:10 am UTC (link)

...you have got to be fucking kidding me. and just when i thought i'd finally gotten over my three years of extreme loathing of lyn.

she's not a great writer. she's not bad, but unless she's improved in spades since the last story i read (her third i think), she's not that great.

i have a history with her, in a way. she's the main reason i got out of nsync het after a friend of mine wrote up this thing on her website about how much lyn sucked. lyn's fans sent my friend death threats. it was fucking creepy. and it led to like, this het fandom war. and that's saying something, considering how vast and farflung that fandom is.

oy it was a mess.

anyway, this is fucking ridiculous. what's next? binding the stories together in a book and selling that on e-bay? or did i just give an vastly overfed ego a great new idea?

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	parlance 2003-09-01 12:20 pm UTC (link)
	Just noticed that rachelhatesbees has evoked Godwin's Law. And I just wish someone would mention that this matter is our business. A potential lawsuit on fanfic affects anyone who reads and writes it. RPF's reputation is bad enough without someone gunning to make it a legal issue. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	musette 2003-09-01 12:25 pm UTC (link)
	snerk Les Mis fans, anyone else entertaining the sick idea that this girl is Laura Kalpakian and Francois Cesara's love child? [/extremely geeky fangirlness] These are the days I am SO glad that Victor Hugo doesn't have lawyers to come and try and kick any fanficcer's asses. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	daijinryuu 2003-09-01 12:49 pm UTC (link)
	Dude, for $265 (apparently the price dropped for no reason?) she could at least include, like, a hard copy of the stories or something. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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