rann
2003-09-09 08:57 pm UTC (link)

Well, to be fair, I bet the fans of Nascar who AREN'T hillbillies or slack-jawed rednecks or whatnot do get a little tired of being told that they are just because of the entertainment they enjoy, just like anime fans get tired of being told they're pathetic sad-sacks who still watch "cartoons", or comic fans get tired of being told they're wasting money buying "kid's reading".

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	coyotegirl 2003-09-09 09:57 pm UTC (link)
	Well, the guy who made the comment was making fun of himself. The person who got outraged missed the point entirely; and then some others decided to wank at him. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-09-09 09:58 pm UTC (link)
	Ahhhh. Mayhaps, indeed. (Reply to this)(Parent)

virago
2003-09-09 10:13 pm UTC (link)

The original poster summed it up greatly, I think, at the end of his comment midway down the thread.

I LOVE this comment, though. One of my favorite typos ever.

>>That's just ignorant. Plane and simple.>>

*facepalm*

And is it just me, or is that the, uh, trying not to look like a snob here, the colloquial usage of "ignorant"? I thought only people around here said "ignorant" (pronounced: "ignernt") to mean "rude." If it's nationwide I'm going to need a drink. And I don't drink.

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	parlance 2003-09-10 01:08 am UTC (link)
	Definitely nation-wide. In fact, I thought it was solely a Black thing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	virago 2003-09-10 01:56 am UTC (link)
	whimpers 'Round here it's part of the general lexicon, connected to a local accent spoken by all ethnic groups. Nnnnot all sociological groups, though. And I'll stop before I start getting My Fair Ladyish all over the place. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-10 02:10 am UTC (link)
	I forgot to add - we sometimes pronounce it "ignant" and basically gets applied to any uncouth behavior. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	darkrose 2003-09-10 06:20 am UTC (link)
	Apropos of nothing...you're not from Chicago, are you? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-10 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	LOL - is it a Chicago thing? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	darkrose 2003-09-10 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	Naw--I'm just wondering if I know you from somewhere. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	shoiryu 2003-09-09 10:17 pm UTC (link)
	Nascar IS a bunch of hillbillies driving in circles. I'm allowed to say that because I'm related to the late Dale Earnhardt. And also, because it's true. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Public drunkeness unnamed 2003-09-09 11:14 pm UTC (link)
	I have an off-topic question. Do people get as piss-drunk at Nascar races as they do at horse races? So far as that, I can't really tell the difference, aside from the stereotypes (Nascar = hillbillies, horses = gamblers and rich folk). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Public drunkeness (Anonymous) 2003-09-09 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	yes they do! i dont go to nascar races, but i do go to NHRA races every once in a while and i hear stories about them all the time from my stepdad, who's a hotrodder. people get veeeerrry drunk at races. it's like a convention for sci-fi/fantasy/anime/whatever fans... just another excuse to get drunk with lots of people who share interests. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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puipui
2003-09-10 07:33 am UTC (link)

Except that I've been to a lot of sci-fi/fantasy/anime/gaming/etc. cons over the past 12 years or so, and I've never seen a whole lot of drinking at any of them. A lot of sugar, yes, and a whole lot of caffiene, but never a lot of drinking. (Except for a couple of the Celebrity Guests at the comic cons in NYC, who were known for being easier to find at one of the local bars than at their own tables. Some of them even gave autographs there, IIRC.)

Maybe I was just hanging out in the wrong places, though? Because, oh, what I wouldn't give to see the drunken brawling that could happen between rabid Star Trek and rabid Star Wars fen! That would rock!

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Re: Public drunkeness

phosfate
2003-09-10 04:59 pm UTC (link)

I've wondered about this myself. The heavy drinkers at cons I've been to have always been the guests (hello, every British actor ever!). There's booze at MediaWest, but I've never seen anybody totally assdrunk because, dammit, you can't read, write, draw, or shop if you're tanked. Worse, you can't work the VCR.

The single Worldcon I attended had a lot of alcohol available, but I was watching my roommate try not to die of influenza ("Wake me for the Midnight auction...*hak*...I want that Howling presskit...*kek*"). It also had condoms. This was the place I learned that one should not try to inflate a spermalubed condom, because it just goes flying across the room.

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	(Anonymous) 2003-09-09 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	nascar was started by the boys during (and after) the prohibition...they souped up their cars to be fast enough to run from the law, but after prohibition ended they ended up driving in actual races to make money. though... most of them still ran moonshine. nascar stays true to its roots! XD drunken hillbillies. -kkscatnip (school... sucks...) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	teratologist 2003-09-10 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	See, that's the first cool thing I've ever heard about Nascar. Ever. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jfpbookworm 2003-09-09 10:17 pm UTC (link)
	To make a long story short 'How dare you insinuate Nascar is a bunch of hillbillys driving in circles!!!" Everybody knows it's an oval. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sagralisse 2003-09-09 10:50 pm UTC (link)
	snerk Congratulations! You just passed 12th grade geometry! Just drop by any Alabama high school to pick up your equivalency certificate. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2003-09-10 12:47 am UTC (link)
	The maddest my daddy ever got at me was when I said, "I don't see what the big deal about NASCAR is - it's the same five rednecks who win all the time anyway." My daddy IS a redneck, mind. (Reply to this)

	allen 2003-09-10 02:01 am UTC (link)
	Randomly -- your icon! Tabitha in Fallen Angels! I love. =) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	lots42 2003-09-11 03:22 am UTC (link)
	Tabitha is very cool. I wonder where she is now. (Reply to this)(Parent)

guinevere33
2003-09-10 04:59 am UTC (link)

I'm from Alabama (no longer, thank god), and I can say with a great deal of authority that NASCAR is definitely just an excuse for rednecks to turn left for several hours. (My dad once said after a bike crash that he KNEW he had a concussion when he managed to watch an entire race start to finish on TV.)

The frightening thing is really the fans. I once drove by the Talledega Super Speedway during a race - there was a field filled with RV's, and at least half of them were flying the Confederate battle flag.

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	*facepalms* fandom_bitch 2003-09-10 10:45 am UTC (link)
	I happen to have grown up in California, with a father who not only started taking me to NASCAR races when I was in the fucking womb... I knew someone would bring up mpreg in there somewhere... But really, that was some feat of daddy's there. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: facepalms darthfi 2003-09-10 02:49 pm UTC (link)
	No, no, you've got it wrong. Mummy had a detachable womb, which Daddy took to the races, because Mummy didn't want to go. Or maybe he just knocked Mummy out and dragged her there against her will... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: facepalms fandom_bitch 2003-09-15 05:32 am UTC (link)
	Heh...detachable womb. Now wouldn't that be something to see. A man and his womb. How darling! I bet all the little old ladies went "awwwwwww" and tried to coo at it. >. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oxydosic 2003-09-10 03:23 pm UTC (link)
	Hahaha! I do love that group, for so many reasons. NASCAR is pretty popular in this area. I personally don't see the draw, to me it's boring as hell watching cars go round and round for hours, but eh, if someone else likes it.. (Reply to this)

	oxydosic 2003-09-10 05:46 pm UTC (link)
	Sorry to post two in a row, but..More NASCAR wank from the comm. Well, more like a wanket. I think freakachu420 needs to chill a little. (Reply to this)

	msmanna 2003-09-10 11:13 pm UTC (link)
	Given that I know there is World Rally slash, I wonder if there is also NASCAR slash, somewhere? I'm too scared to look for it, though. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	oxydosic 2003-09-11 01:07 am UTC (link)
	cough And that's just the first result in a google search using 'nascar slash' as the keywords. Enjoy..or despair, as the case may be. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-09-12 06:34 am UTC (link)
	another cough (http://www.fanficspeedway.com/). Probably the main archive out there for it. Used it for a brief time when I was interested in and writing Nascar fic. Something's telling me that I must be the only black chick from Jersey that's interested in this... Azure (Reply to this)(Parent)