crevette
2003-09-11 04:48 am UTC (link)

You know, I used to be a Duranie (note: one "n" in Duranie) ages ago. I bought every single thing I could find on the band, be it print, video or recorded. I flew from Florida to Los Angeles in 2000 to go to San Juan Capistrano to some dive called "The Coachhouse" just to see John Taylor croak out some Duran songs and some of his really, really bad solo stuff. I used to write Duran fanfic *spits and makes holy warding off signs*. I still frequent Lizard King and TTP, although the only reason I'll read DD.com is for the frequent bouts of Duranie Drama (that I have just recently learned are called "Wank", and what a lovely word that is!)that just keep popping up over there on an almost daily basis.

That said, I can barely stand to hear anything of Duran's anymore, and I hold a special piece of loathing in my heart of hearts for "Save a Prayer", and I'd just like to share my feelings about that song and the Duranie contingent's reaction to it. *clears throat*

HELLO!!! DURANIE FREAKS!!! IT'S NOT A TOUCHING, SENSITIVE LOVE SONG!!! IT'S A SONG ABOUT A FUCKING ONE NIGHT STAND!!!! If Simon Lebon is singing this song to you, you need to hie thee to a clinic and get Penecillin shots **STAT**!!! If he's singing this song to you, then you've been touched by the disease ridden, oozing member of death! Your coochie will fester and rot and fall off within a week! That thing has seen the insides of more woman than the entire membership of the national board of Gynocologists! IT'S NOT A TENDER BALLAD, IT'S NOT A SACRED COW, IT'S THE 80'S VERSION OF "AFTERNOON DELIGHT"! GET OVER IT!

I feel so, so much better now. Thank you. I needed that.

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	parlance 2003-09-11 04:54 am UTC (link)
	You know, I used to be a Duranie (note: one "n" in Duranie) Well, there's a wank in and of itself. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	crevette 2003-09-11 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Oh yeah. They get ALL pissy about that. You have NO clue. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-11 05:02 am UTC (link)
	They get ALL pissy about that. You have NO* clue.* Believe me, I know. And it makes not one whit of a difference. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	necronomist 2003-09-11 04:55 am UTC (link)
	"If Simon Lebon is singing this song to you, you need to hie thee to a clinic and get Penecillin shots STAT!!!" Call me nasty, but why would anyone want to sleep with that guy is beyond me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-11 05:12 am UTC (link)
	CuZ SiMoN iZ tEh S3xxxY!!!!1111 (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	crevette 2003-09-11 05:31 am UTC (link)
	snort Yeah, in that kind of shrunken apple headed doll kind of way... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	tempslut 2003-09-11 05:58 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'd rather sleep with John Taylor, anyday. Besides, in the Duran Duran heyday, he was too busy attempting to die from coke to sleep around as much as Simon (not that he didn't sleep around himself, but you get the picture). Not that I actually would. I'm just saying. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-11 06:01 am UTC (link)
	I'd be wary of both of them. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	elfy 2003-09-11 07:46 am UTC (link)
	I think it's bloody hilarious how people sacred cow-ify songs that are about one night stands... giggle If you'bve heard Throw Your Arms Around Me by the Huntera & Collectors, this is apparently another example of it - which gets the little bopper kids who idolise a guy who did a cover if it really riled up. Tis verily amusing. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	terminal_frost 2003-09-11 08:55 am UTC (link)
	If he's singing this song to you, then you've been touched by the disease ridden, oozing member of death! Your coochie will fester and rot and fall off within a week! That thing has seen the insides of more woman than the entire membership of the national board of Gynocologists! *SNORT!!!* Hahahahahaha!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oxydosic 2003-09-11 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, so 'Save a Prayer' was the song i thought it was. Sacred? Give me a break. It's obviously about a one night stand, and one that should be considered a big mistake at that. How can it possibly be interpreted as romantic? And, now i'd like to hear Justin Timberlake do a version of it...honestly, i have this feeling it might be pretty good. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

parlance
2003-09-11 06:17 pm UTC (link)

Well, it's not a secret it's about a one-night stand. It's in the lyrics after all. :->

But I think musically it's a beautiful song, and I believe that's what most fans have responded to. And even though I think the Durannies on the board are being quite wanky on the subject, I'm not terribly thrilled even by the rumor that nasal Justin might try his hand at the song. I really think the person who wrote the article was pulling everyone's leg.

I have thoughts about judgements being passed in this thread on what's deemed romantic and what isn't, but since I didn't post to start another wank myself, I'll keep those to myself.

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	ruby_falls 2003-09-11 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	It would give me chuckle to hear Mr. Uber-romance I don't do one-night stands Timberlake to sing this, though, because of the subject matter. although (hanging head in shame) I have to admit that just reading the first sentence of the post, my knee-jerk reaction was "oh, fuck no." I just don't care enough to take it to a message board. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-11 07:18 pm UTC (link)
	It would give me chuckle to hear Mr. Uber-romance I don't do one-night stands Timberlake to sing this, though, because of the subject matter. LOL, good point. Although I'm sure one could interpret some of his lyrics on a - shall we say, casual level? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mariagoner 2003-09-12 02:09 am UTC (link)
	No one night stands for Justin? Come on, what was Britney Spears but a one-night stand that went horribly, terribly wrong? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	luna 2003-09-12 03:48 am UTC (link)
	It's obviously about a one night stand, and one that should be considered a big mistake at that. How can it possibly be interpreted as romantic? See, when a song contains the lyrics "Some people call it a one night stand"... you know, there's not a lot of room for confusion. Unless you're fucking insane, as many of these people clearly are. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

luna
2003-09-12 03:45 am UTC (link)

Oh, how I love you all. Fandom Wank, you feel my pain.

That's actually my least favorite song off Rio. It's so overwrought, and Simons lyrics made even 14 year old Luna cry. (I should note that I'm from that much loathed "2nd generation" of Duranies, converted after The Wedding Albulm. I remember me and my friends giggling ourselves silly when we read the liner notes:

"Pretty looking road, I try to hold the rising floods that fill my skin...." Yes, Simon has rising floods filling his ~~fore~~skin. It's like the worst kind of 12 year old penned smutfic, put to soothing music.

::sobs::

And, oh! Can I tell Duranie wank stories from my time in that fandom. Most of them involved the "zines" and penpal type fanclubs, as this was waaaay back in 93-94 before the internet got big. We still managed to wank just fine without it. :)

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	parlance 2003-09-12 03:55 am UTC (link)
	And, oh! Can I tell Duranie wank stories from my time in that fandom. Do tell. :-> I didn't become a Durannie until '85 so I don't know if I'm 1st generation or 2nd generation. 1.5th? So I missed a lot of the initial hysteria. But any fan from Dead Tree Fandom will agree that true wank transcends all formats. :-> (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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luna
2003-09-12 04:11 am UTC (link)

Do tell. :->

Well, there's lots of little stories, like how many times I've gotten into arguements with people for *daring* to criticize "misunderstood" works like Liberty. (And dude, I did like one song, Serious, but come on! The albulm SUCKED.)

But the main thing? Okay, I met a lot of really cool people thru these "zines", newsletters, stuff like that. We'd share photos & articles, a lot of really rare stuff. That's how I accumulated a lot of my collection, thru other understanding fans. But there was this one girl, God, she just started going psycho on me. I would be like, "Yeah, I love Duran! But I love Nirvana & Pearl Jam too! Lets talk about other bands too!" And she would be like, "There ARE no other bands. All those other bands, they are EVIL and will lead you down a path of DESTRUCTION, sex and drugs and cutting school!" And I kept trying to back away slooooowly.. but then she started bringing in her friends to try to keep me away from the other "evil" bands... They kept writing me & calling my house and everything. (And we lived on opposite sides of the country, as well.)

GAH. I've met never, never met any fans of other bands that came close to that.

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	parlance 2003-09-12 04:16 am UTC (link)
	daring to criticize "misunderstood" works Ah, Stepford Durannies. Gotta love 'em. will lead you down a path of DESTRUCTION, sex and drugs and cutting school!" Because... Duran's all purity and light? Jeezus Murphy. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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luna
2003-09-12 04:28 am UTC (link)

Ah, Stepford Durannies. Gotta love 'em.

Bwah! Love them, or smack them upside the head?

Because... Duran's all purity and light?

Ya know?!? I mean, this was before the dawn of Behind the Music, and not everyone neccesarily knew that John was snorting enough coke to shame Stevie Nicks, but it's not like Duran's ever been portrayed as little innocents. Um... hello, Girls on Film video? Ice cubed nipples, lifeguard Simon jumping to save the stripper in the plastic pool?

This girl, I think some of her former "Duranie" buds drifted apart from her, and started listening to punk & Nirvana, smoking cigarettes, doing drugs, cutting school... pretty much, basic teen rebellion. She took it out on "teh evil non-Duran music".

Personally, I think her friends just started doing drugs because she drove them fucking crazy.

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	parlance 2003-09-12 04:30 am UTC (link)
	snerk BTW, are you Empress Luna on the board? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: luna 2003-09-12 04:35 am UTC (link)
	I lurk every now and then, but music boards scare me. Too many bad experiences. But my name is partly inspired by the lines from New Moon on Monday, "Last time La Luna..." And I've wanted to get a tattoo of that eye from Rio and Seven & the Ragged Tiger forever.... sigh (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-12 04:41 am UTC (link)
	But my name is partly inspired by the lines from New Moon on Monday, "Last time La Luna..." I figured. :-> I just wondered if Empress Luna was you so I could add you to my PM crew. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	luna 2003-09-12 04:58 am UTC (link)
	Shhh!!! It's my secret... no one ever figures that out! I used the name "SingBlueSilver" on message boards for a long, long time and no one ever figured that one out either. :) But, you somehow dragged me over to the dark side... and I'm registered over there as my LJ user name, LUNAKORNKID. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	parlance 2003-09-12 07:08 am UTC (link)
	LOL. Okay. I'm the same - parlance (Reply to this)(Parent)

I just have to wonder...

candy
2003-09-12 01:32 pm UTC (link)

As a Lou Reed/Velvet Underground fan, I wonder if there were any of the Velvets music snobs (oh, god, I must search out and see if there is any good Velvets wank because there just *has* to be some out there) who got all riled up and annoyed and wanky when DD did a version of one of the Velvets songs (I want to say Femme Fatale, but I'm not sure if it wasn't All Tomorrow's Parties and I think they did another Lou/Velvets song which is why I'm probably confused, but I know they did one that Nico sang). Because that? Would be comedy gold.

I can just imagine it.

WankyVelvetsFan: How dare this boy band sully the purity of Lou's writing by recording his music.
WankyDurannie: Oh, please, it was sung by that tuneless Gothic German woman.
WVF: Nico was beautiful and talented.
WD: She couldn't carry a tune in a bucket!
WVF: Lou approved it, that's good enough for me.

And on and on but I can't think of anything else.

For the record: Lapsed Duran fan, massive but non-wanky Lou & Velvets fan, Nico fangirl (also non-wanky). And if I can ever find it, would like to hear Duran version of whatever song it actually is that they recorded.

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	Re: I just have to wonder... parlance 2003-09-12 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	They did two, actually. Perfect Day is on Thank You and Femme Fatale is on the '93 self-titled album (unofficially known as The Wedding Album). (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: I just have to wonder... necronomist 2003-09-15 01:10 am UTC (link)
	I'd have to go with the WankyVelvetFans if it ever came about, I mean, if I wasn't pointing and laughing. (Reply to this)(Parent)