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	esorlehcar 2003-10-06 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	:-) You know it's a quality tinhat wank when it gets reposted here. MsA desperately trying to spin this has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. There's a lot more wank than just that one post, btw. Check out the DL_anon front page - many quotes from DLR and DL. Funnier than a penguin playing a banjo. (Reply to this)

	sidhebastardess 2003-10-06 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	Oh man. That's just beautiful. However . . . For those of us who don't keep up with LoTrips fandom . . . what exactly happened? curious, curious What "comments" were made? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	isntitironic 2003-10-06 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	Dom was on some talk show, the subject came up, and he said that he and Elijah had heard about the little phenomenon, thought it was funny, and had considered holding hands at the RotK premiere just to egg them on but decided against it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sidhebastardess 2003-10-06 11:02 pm UTC (link)
	Oh mannnn. dies I don't suppose anyone has a transcript or something? (Reply to this)(Parent)

cesare
2003-10-06 11:07 pm UTC (link)

Whoops, no, it wasn't a talk show.

It was during Dom, Elijah and Sean Astin's appearances at Collectormania this weekend. According to people at the con, during their Q&A sessions, both Dom and Elijah brought up the rumors. Dom seems to have made a joke out of the whole thing, while apparently Elijah listed off a few key rumors and said flat-out that none of them were true.

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	isntitironic 2003-10-06 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	Meep. Sorry, my wrong. -_- (Reply to this)(Parent)

trismegistus
2003-10-06 11:11 pm UTC (link)

Oww. Oww. Oww. Too much ass-tardity for me to process at once...WOE UNTO MY POOR, POOR BRAIN.

*crispy-fried wankdom sense*

Why do people care whether the stoned-looking hobbit is shagging the blond hobbit in between takes? Regardless of whether they are or not, they're not shagging you, and if nobody's shagging you, what's the point in equivocating one way or the other? It's a bit like arguing over the pronunciation of "potato," ain't it?

*clutches head in agony*

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esseilte
2003-10-06 11:29 pm UTC (link)

Regardless of whether they are or not, they're not shagging you, and if nobody's shagging you, what's the point in equivocating one way or the other?

Got to say - this made me laugh out loud.

I must have missed the whole Domlijah thing. Because I'm still at the 'Wha..?' stage. So watching folk take it oh-so-seriously is good for a snigger or two.

The lads can do as they please for all I care (isn't that nice? I've given them permission...very good of me, I must say) but I wish they had held hands for a wind-up. It would have been good for a laugh.

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esorlehcar
2003-10-06 11:47 pm UTC (link)

I must have missed the whole Domlijah thing. Because I'm still at the 'Wha..?' stage. So watching folk take it oh-so-seriously is good for a snigger or two.

Check out Sanity, Please for a closer look at the madness. It's a bit out of date, unfortunately - the tinhats are remarkably skilled at doublethink, and they changed a good deal of their canon without batting an eyelash afer the site went up, and pulled down the database and FAQ that "proved" Dom and Elijah were fucking (and which SP pretty much definitively showed to be full of shit) within two weeks of the site going up. But it's still an easy, comprehensive way to find out about the tinhats.

but I wish they had held hands

They did, as a matter of fact, coming out of the SAG awards in 2002. This is a major, major part of the "proof" that they're fucking each other, even though the woman who took the picture has stated that they left with two women, one of whom Dom was making with at one point, and is very upset that her picture is being used out of context.

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iamtheenemy
2003-10-07 12:26 am UTC (link)

Why do people care whether the stoned-looking hobbit is shagging the blond hobbit in between takes? Regardless of whether they are or not, they're not shagging you, and if nobody's shagging you, what's the point in equivocating one way or the other? It's a bit like arguing over the pronunciation of "potato," ain't it?

I agree wholeheartedly. I think part of it is an OTP gone terribly wrong, part of it is MsA's utter vehemence on the subject and most of it is that these people have the deluded impression that they're HELPING the guys. It brings them closer to their favorite celebrities if they think that Dom and Elijah rely on them understanding the secret code in Dom wearing a Purdue shirt and so on.

Instead of them seeing it as a vulgar invasion of privacy to speculate on their private lives, they feel that Dom and Elijah should be grateful for them showing their support to the cause. There is no evidence to show that if those two WERE in a relationship that they would even want anyone to know. Elijah himself has talked about how sacred his private life is. So why oh why would he be spearheading this kind of mission?

Steph

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	brain_stain 2003-10-07 04:15 am UTC (link)
	Okay, potentially stupid question, but what is "OTP"? I've seen it dozens of times on many LJs, and I've yet to figure out what it is from context clues. Is everyone supposed to automatically know what it means, and I just happened to miss the memo? Just wondering. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cesare 2003-10-07 04:18 am UTC (link)
	One True Pairing. Refers to some fen's insistence that their favorite pairing is the ONLY possible pairing. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: brain_stain 2003-10-07 04:20 am UTC (link)
	Thanks! Okay, now it makes sense. And I've certainly seen a heckuva lot of OTP discussions without ever having to venture outside comics fandom. (Reply to this)(Parent)

mariagoner
2003-10-07 05:18 am UTC (link)

Instead of them seeing it as a vulgar invasion of privacy to speculate on their private lives, they feel that Dom and Elijah should be grateful for them showing their support to the cause. There is no evidence to show that if those two WERE in a relationship that they would even want anyone to know. Elijah himself has talked about how sacred his private life is. So why oh why would he be spearheading this kind of mission?

Because apparently all gay men are pretty, angsty waifs that need a bunch of crazy fangirls to support their tru, pure *luv,* lest they curl up and die. Are you hearing me out on this one, Houie?

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	folk 2003-10-07 05:41 am UTC (link)
	Right, and we all let the fangirls watch, too. eyeroll (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	trismegistus 2003-10-07 06:27 am UTC (link)
	Hey, I don't know about you, but I ask my screaming fangirls to join in when I have the big gay s3x0r. Lord knows it's the closest to a non-imaginary penis that half these deluded, wanky souls are ever going to get... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	folk 2003-10-07 08:19 am UTC (link)
	snerk Indeed. Sometimes, I even hope to steal their boyfriends! ...and your icon is simply priceless. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	trismegistus 2003-10-07 08:36 am UTC (link)
	Especially when the fangirleen's boyfriends are freely-floating masses of Orlando Bloom's ectoplasm. Mmm, ghostly ~~Slimer~~ Orli... (And your icon is teh h0tt--que es?) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	folk 2003-10-07 09:51 am UTC (link)
	Quite. TEH H0TT indeed. Es Jan, uno de los cheerleaderos en Bring it On, uno filmo molto brillianto. And yes, I did just slip into Engtaliano instead of Spanglish. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	trismegistus 2003-10-07 06:28 am UTC (link)
	Random: aww, adorkable Willow. hugs icon (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iamtheenemy 2003-10-07 08:44 am UTC (link)
	Yes, it's my homage to Willow/Oz. They will be always be my One True Buffy Pairing, I think. And no, that doesn't make me homophobic, it simply makes me Ozaphilic! Steph (Reply to this)(Parent)

virago
2003-10-06 11:52 pm UTC (link)

Hee!

Tangent:
You know, being mostly in fictional fandoms myself, not actor-based stuff and the like, sometimes I envy people in RPSey/real-life-ey fandoms, because there IS a final word. I think, "Oh, how I wish people would stop bickering about OTPs and OMG u cant see teihr tru luv!! and just understand the difference between canon and fantasy." You can't get this in fictional fandom, generally, unless someone pipes up to the author/artist/etc. about it.

Now I see that this actually doesn't work even in reality-based fandoms. As mentioned more entertainingly in that thread, a person could get "HI. MY NAME IS ____ AND I AM OF THE [hetero/homo/bi]SEXUAL PERSUASION. HAVE A NICE DAY" tattooed on their forehead and still, STILL people would believe whatever they want.

Very, very strange.

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	ladylisse 2003-10-07 12:35 am UTC (link)
	Oh. My. GOD. This is a corner of the LOTR fandom I did not want to know about. wails and hides (Reply to this)(Thread)

	heheheheh raisedbyhyenas 2003-10-07 01:14 am UTC (link)
	You wanna know the stone-cold truth? All that DomLij sturm und drang is just a big noisy smokescreen for Viggo & Karl. Mmmm-HMM. grins and runs (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: heheheheh singe 2003-10-07 02:48 am UTC (link)
	NO!!! DOMBILLEH 4EVA!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: heheheheh ladylisse 2003-10-07 02:59 am UTC (link)
	Oh sure. Mock my pain. scours brain (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-10-07 01:16 am UTC (link)
	Ow. OW. The stupid. It burns. (Reply to this)

Can I be Nero?

walkingundine
2003-10-07 01:57 am UTC (link)

It's like the fall of Rome! It's like all those grand temples, overwrought houses, and fanciful statues burning and crumbling to the ground before our very eyes! My dear friends, we are witnessing the end of an era. The Era of the DomLijah Tinhat. Other tinhats will rise, other pairings will wankify, but until they do, we stand with the ruins of DLR beneath our feet. I volunteer to be Nero. We can pave DLR over, and I'll play the fiddle madly while it sinks into the sea of fandom, and we can dance on the new-salted earth. Any takers?

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	Re: Can I be Nero? ladylisse 2003-10-07 03:01 am UTC (link)
	Is this fiddle anything like the world's smallest violin? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Can I be Nero? walkingundine 2003-10-07 06:52 am UTC (link)
	Heh. It is, in fact. How'd you guess? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dawnswalker 2003-10-07 04:39 am UTC (link)
	Personally, I can't help but imagine the wank that will ensue when fangirls come up to Dom and Elijah and make them hold "DOMLIJAH TRU BELIEVERZ SUXX0R!" signs! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mireille 2003-10-07 05:03 am UTC (link)
	Which is what you get if you throw all the Collectormania wank into a blender, right? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-10-07 06:31 am UTC (link)
	At this point, Parker Brothers could pack up my mind and sell it as a copy of Boggle. Somebody got run over by the bandwagon of reality today. - Diana/tocomfortyou (Reply to this)

msmanna
2003-10-07 01:02 pm UTC (link)

I think people are making too much of this. Sure, the Cult of Domlijah might lose a few members, but everything that happened at Collectormania will get spun into tinhat canon, and things will carry on pretty much as they did before. The PR devils made them do it, or it's really a coded message to the fans, or just flat out rewriting of what happened, or all of the above.

Suggesting this is the end of the Domlijah insanity, as some people have done, is like suggesting suckers will stop sending money to TV evangelists just because yet another one got caught high on coke and fucking bikini models. True believers' ability to delude themselves is stronger than pretty much anything except gravity.

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	beccastareyes 2003-10-07 06:04 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe stronger than gravity -- it IS the weakest of the Four Fundamental Forces. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	esorlehcar 2003-10-07 06:33 pm UTC (link)
	Have people really suggested this is the end of the Domlijah madness? Where? I'd think anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the situation would know better than that.... (Reply to this)(Parent)